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On the field. Do you watch the games? The only UL coach that UK has had ANY success against is Kragthorpe. Strong dominated us. Petrino may not ever lose to us. Why is it so hard to get that through your thick skull?
Well the overall record is 15-15. If that is being dominated what would you call the basketball series?
 

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Well the overall record is 15-15. If that is being dominated what would you call the basketball series?

Actually it is 14-14 and More than likely it the fact that since the series restarted in the early 90s it is a 14 to 8 i think Louisville edge with Louisville winning the last 5 games...
 
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Yes, it was, and I'm glad that you acknowledge you finally grasped it. Awesome. We couldn't shut down Vandy and struggled mightily against EKU. You make a wise *** remark about dumb comments and speculating after having stated that I must not follow college football because you assume I wasn't aware of what the QB situation was in College Station, as opposed to just taking my comment at face value which was that I do not think we would have beaten A&M the way we finished out the season. Now you can continue to speculate on what you think I know, or add another "dumb comment," but I think there's two things we can at least agree on. 1. Louisville is in much better place than we are in football right now unfortunately and 2. "Caveman" is about as apt a screen name as I've seen on here.

Now that we are on the same page, it was a silly comment. Praising UL, and you did (regardless of your post hoc explanation), for beating a troubled A&M team that started a kid who could not make a first half throw was silly, and is not an example of UL being in a better place. In fact, UL almost lost that game, which was an embarrassment to Petrino. Now you and Public Enemy can defend that win. Go.
 

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Actually it is 14-14 and More than likely it the fact that since the series restarted in the early 90s it is a 14 to 8 i think Louisville edge with Louisville winning the last 5 games...
The only way that Louisville dominates UK at anything is to exclude dates. All of the games both teams have played are in the past. You can't selectively exclude certain years just to create the narrative that you prefer. That's no more valid than me not counting Louisville's 14 (I 'll use your number) wins since the early 90s. See how that works? UK is undefeated since the series resumed. UK simply dominates U of L, when are Card fan gonna get that through their thick skulls?
 

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UL has beaten UK more often than not since the series resumed in 1994. There is no debate about that. But that is not necessarily because UL has been great. It has more to do with UK being awful for the most part. When UK has had decent teams at the same time UL has had crappy coaches are the only times UK has been able to beat them.
 

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Now that we are on the same page, it was a silly comment. Praising UL, and you did (regardless of your post hoc explanation), for beating a troubled A&M team that started a kid who could not make a first half throw was silly, and is not an example of UL being in a better place. In fact, UL almost lost that game, which was an embarrassment to Petrino. Now you and Public Enemy can defend that win. Go.

The only thing I will say about that game is this...the Texas A&M defense with Myles Garrett could do nothing with a true freshmen Louisville QB who did something in a Bowl game in terms of yardage that only Vince Young and Manziel has ever done. Also it is a end don't even go to the "Almost Loss"...that makes me laugh...Louisville beat a SEC West team that had 4 straight Top 15 Recruiting classes with Louisville playing a 6 to 8 Freshmen which were mainly 3* on offense...that win set Louisville up very nicely...#12 Nationally in the 2016 ESPN Football Power Index...it is what it is....
 
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The only thing I will say about that game is this...the Texas A&M defense with Myles Garrett could do nothing with a true freshmen Louisville QB who did something in a Bowl game in terms of yardage that only Vince Young and Manziel has ever done. Also it is a end don't even go to the "Almost Loss"...that makes me laugh...Louisville beat a SEC West team that had 4 straight Top 25 Recruiting classes with a bunch of Freshmen playing for the Red and Black...it is what it is....

Almost lost. You may want to heap a bunch of praise on a UL team that beat a green QB who could not hit wide open WRs for TDs. I would expect nothing less from the world's biggest UL apologist. And, what makes me laugh is that you can only say A&M is from the SEC West and it has top 25 recruiting classes. LOL!!! What an accomplishment!!!

I can raise UL for the things it has done that are worthy of praise. But, that ain't one.
 

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Almost only counts in hand grenades and horsehoes...A win is a win is a win....8-5 final record...8-2 last 10 games...Preseason Top 25 for 2016...it is what it is

You don't praise a team for barely beating an average SEC team that is playing with its third string QB. How don't you get that?
 

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You don't praise a team for barely beating an average SEC team that is playing with its third string QB. How don't you get that?

The only thing we care about is winning and doing what Louisville was supposed to do in that game...they handled their business...when you go to and win Bowl games you maybe will understand that...the credit is in 2016 being in the Consensus Way Too Early Top 25...
 

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The only thing we care about is winning and doing what Louisville was supposed to do in that game...they handled their business...when you go to and win Bowl games you maybe will understand that...the credit is in 2016 being in the Consensus Way Too Early Top 25...

Good. When the discussion is about just winning, make your case. But that is not the discussion. It's called context.
 

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You realize your team collapsed the last two years correct...it called finishing strong...lol

You can't help yourself. You don't even understand the issues, but you just keep repeating the same stuff when you perceive your team or your coach is getting ripped. Lol
 

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Good. When the discussion is about just winning, make your case. But that is not the discussion. It's called context.

No it called you not likely what you see...you're in year 4 of a coaching staff...you saw the Spring Practice and the Spring Game in Lexington...meanwhile the other P5 School in the Commonwealth is coming off a strong finish...a Bowl win and is in everyone Top 25 going into 2016...and you face the fact that you're heading into Papa John as a very likely double digit underdog at this point in time...
 

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You realize your team collapsed the last two years correct...it called finishing strong...lol

Finishing Strong? Lol

I believe you beat two (2) BCS teams with winning records over the last ten games, and one played you with a third string QB in a turmoil bowl game. It's called scheduling. That might be the dumbest thing you have posted here.
 

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Neither program has really faced the other when both had "good" teams. UL has won 12 of the last 17 meetings and most of the time whoever is winning the series goes on to win consecutive years. UK won the first meeting in '94 and UL won the next two, then UK the next two, then Louisville the next 3, then UK won it in 2002 and then UL won it the next 4 years, then UK the next 4, now UL the last 5. The winning team always wins in chunks....this has never been a back and forth rivalry. The team thats on top stays on top for a while because like I said...this rivalry has never seen both programs field quality teams.

Louisville dominated the series under Petrino...Petrino left.....Kragthorpe came and Brooks started winning, Brooks retired, UL hired Charlie Strong and started winning...Stoops was hired to fix a bad roster and UL brought Petrino back.

In fact 98', 99', 06' and '10 are the only times that both teams went to a bowl game in the same year and only the 06' UL and UK teams were the only two teams that I would classify as "good" teams in those 4 instances. The series was tied 2-2 in those 4 instances by the way.
 

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Finishing Strong? Lol

I believe you beat two (2) BCS teams with winning records over the last ten games, and one played you with a third string QB in a turmoil bowl game. It's called scheduling. That might be the dumbest thing you have posted here.

Louisville beat the teams they were supposed to beat...they don't lose to a 4-8 team with a bowl bid on the line...not our style under a Strong/Petrino...
 

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No it called you not likely what you see...you're in year 4 of a coaching staff...you saw the Spring Practice and the Spring Game in Lexington...meanwhile the other P5 School in the Commonwealth is coming off a strong finish...a Bowl win and is in everyone Top 25 going into 2016...and you face the fact that you're heading into Papa John as a very likely double digit underdog at this point in time...

Look, PubE, if you think beating A&M was a big freaking deal and worthy of puffing your collective chests. Have at it. But, try to stay on topic.
 

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Neither program has really faced the other when both had "good" teams. UL has won 12 of the last 17 meetings and most of the time whoever is winning the series goes on to win consecutive years. UK won the first meeting in '94 and UL won the next two, then UK the next two, then Louisville the next 3, then UK won it in 2002 and then UL won it the next 4 years, then UK the next 4, now UL the last 5. The winning team always wins in chunks....this has never been a back and forth rivalry. The team thats on top stays on top for a while because like I said...this rivalry has never seen both programs field quality teams.

Louisville dominated the series under Petrino...Petrino left.....Kragthorpe came and Brooks started winning, Brooks retired, UL hired Charlie Strong and started winning...Stoops was hired to fix a bad roster and UL brought Petrino back.

In fact 98', 99', 06' and '10 are the only times that both teams went to a bowl game in the same year and only the 06' UL and UK teams were the only two teams that I would classify as "good" teams in those 4 instances. The series was tied 2-2 in those 4 instances by the way.

UK beat UL in Krag's first year. Both of those teams were "good."
 

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Look, PubE, if you think beating A&M was a big freaking deal and worthy of puffing your collective chests. Have at it. But, try to stay on topic.

The "Topic" is Petrino Contract extension really...my take he has to win...simple as that...and actually "didn't beat my chest"....only said they did what they was favored to do and they covered the point spread...the only thing I truly added and once again I will say this they are heading into 2016 in the Way Too Early Consensus Top 25 and they are currently 12th Nationally in the ESPN FPI for 2016...that is the current facts...can't wait for the AP & Coaches Poll that come out in August.
 

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The "Topic" is Petrino Contract extension really...my take he has to win...simple as that...and actually "didn't beat my chest"....only said they did what they was favored to do and they covered the point spread...the only thing I truly added and once again I will say this they are heading into 2016 in the Way Too Early Consensus Top 25 and they are currently 12th Nationally in the ESPN FPI for 2016...that is the current facts...can't wait for the AP & Coaches Poll that come out in August.

You interjected yourself into a conversation, as I Predicted you would. And then you either did not understand the conversation or you thought throwing a bunch of straw men arguments was the best you could do.
 

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For my purposes...after starting 0-3 to start the 2015 season....you win 8 out of your last 10 "most" would consider that a strong finish...if you don't....oh well...

Key phrase "for [your] purposes."

Losing to all of the better teams. Beating all of the bad teams. "Finishing strong."
 

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No, actually you called me out and pulled me into this...proof below in the quotes...

I said you would interject. The odds of that happening were so low that I would lose money in Vegas on the bet. You are too predictable. The fact that you could not stay in context was also predictable.
 

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I said you would interject. The odds of that happening were so low that I would lose money in Vegas on the bet. You are too predictable. The fact that you could not stay in context was also predictable.

Again you left this out:


Now that we are on the same page, it was a silly comment. Praising UL, and you did (regardless of your post hoc explanation), for beating a troubled A&M team that started a kid who could not make a first half throw was silly, and is not an example of UL being in a better place. In fact, UL almost lost that game, which was an embarrassment to Petrino. Now you and Public Enemy can defend that win. Go.

It is calling someone out...but hey CB3 had a point...you wanted to call out Louisville for beating aTm while overlooking the Vandy and EKU game...as a Louisville guy feel good about the 2016 Football Program...feel good that they handled their business against aTm....feel good that Louisville won 4 out of their last 6 Bowl games...will feel better if we beat either FSU, Houston or Clemson this coming year...but again I gotta get some sleep...Good Night
 

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Again you left this out:




It is calling someone out...but hey CB3 had a point...you wanted to call out Louisville for beating aTm while overlooking the Vandy and EKU game...as a Louisville guy feel good about the 2016 Football Program...feel good that they handled their business against aTm....feel good that Louisville won 4 out of their last 6 Bowl games...will feel better if we beat either FSU, Houston or Clemson this coming year...but again I gotta get some sleep...Good Night

I never mentioned UK. You're blinded by defensiveness, which is what I predicted.
 

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2007 was Krags first year. That team went 6-6, lost to a 2-10 Syracuse squad and didn't got to a bowl. Not even remotely what I would call a "good" team.

It was a preseason top 10 team that was coming off a big season before. But, I am not going to argue it was a good team. I understand UL fans don't want to believe one of their good teams lost to UK.
 

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Neither program has really faced the other when both had "good" teams. UL has won 12 of the last 17 meetings and most of the time whoever is winning the series goes on to win consecutive years. UK won the first meeting in '94 and UL won the next two, then UK the next two, then Louisville the next 3, then UK won it in 2002 and then UL won it the next 4 years, then UK the next 4, now UL the last 5. The winning team always wins in chunks....this has never been a back and forth rivalry. The team thats on top stays on top for a while because like I said...this rivalry has never seen both programs field quality teams.

Louisville dominated the series under Petrino...Petrino left.....Kragthorpe came and Brooks started winning, Brooks retired, UL hired Charlie Strong and started winning...Stoops was hired to fix a bad roster and UL brought Petrino back.

In fact 98', 99', 06' and '10 are the only times that both teams went to a bowl game in the same year and only the 06' UL and UK teams were the only two teams that I would classify as "good" teams in those 4 instances. The series was tied 2-2 in those 4 instances by the way.
Not true...2007...1998...2002...
 

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So your saying a 6-6 team is a good team, but the 8-5 team last season wasn't? The talent was good coaching was horrible. Team got worse as season went forward and teams got worse each season Krags was HC.
 

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Louisville was 6-6 and did not even make a Bowl Game...last I checked .500 is the definition of Mediocre
OK so you are admitting that preseason rankings don't really matter? Because Otis was preseason top 10 if my old memory dosen't fail me..like I've said before and just like UK was enjoy your midmajor bowls now playing with FSU and Clemson...I can only hope we an get back there with you...sweet dreams
 

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OK so you are admitting that preseason rankings don't really matter? Because Otis was preseason top 10 if my old memory dosen't fail me..like I've said before and just like UK was enjoy your midmajor bowls now playing with FSU and Clemson...I can only hope we an get back there with you...sweet dreams

We were preseason top 10 and had top 10 talent on that team. Brohm, Douglas, Wood, and the OT cant remember his name, Barnage, Mario, and Allen were very talented.

The thing in football you can't take in account is coaching change, because of different schemes. Like I've said UofL needs 2 no more than 3 loses or I feel the season isn't successful.
 

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Preseason top ten when we won...or do only the circumstances that meet your agenda matter...oh and also we just hapened to beat the national champs that year...has Otis ever done that?

UK had a good team in 2007 and Brooks is a much better coach than Krags. As for beating the national champion to my knowledge the season before last was the only time we've played the national champion. We have won a few BCS bowl games though.
 

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So your saying a 6-6 team is a good team, but the 8-5 team last season wasn't? The talent was good coaching was horrible. Team got worse as season went forward and teams got worse each season Krags was HC.

I don't understand what you're saying here. I'm saying that a 6-6 team that didn't go to a bowl game and lost to a 2-10 Syracuse team is by all accounts and measurements...not classified as a "good" team. I don't feel like thats bending the facts or anything....I mean that simply wasn't a good team. Now...it might not have been a good team because of coaching (it was because of coaching)....but regardless, it wasn't a good team...the results tell us it wasn't a good team. It could have been a good team with a competent coach but UL didn't have that luxury.

Also...my comment about which teams were "good" was only in reference to those 4 teams from those 4 years when both programs went to a bowl..meaning that even when the teams have been good enough to go to a bowl game the same year they have still been when both were mediocre, barely over .500 teams..aside from the 06' meeting when UL was really, really good and UK fielded one of their best teams in a long time.
 
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