Coward ...run away when you are losing...so 21-24 pt losses are competitive...I think not . It still pisses me off we lost to Otis the way we did, but I guess according to you we should be happy.
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7-2 and 5 of which had losing record that you beat by a combined 39 pts. Now those were "competitive" games and just shows all the more that Otis was nothing more than average or mediocre as Strongtino said. If you are actually going away please do us all a favor and stay away...you should have been banded a long time ago with your smart-*** remarks and gloating...UK fans wouldn't last (I didnt) 5 minutes with the BS you spread here over there.
What would you call him?
300 passing yards 3 TD's vs FSU
450 total yards 4 TD's vs A&M
Fsu=41-21 score...7 pt victory over tam playing 3rd string QB and decimated by injuries...two games dosen't make a kid a stud...like I said earlier he may turn out to be , but I'd slow down a little..Bolin had a similar game against us last year...did that make him a stud?
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Oh, now you also want to praise UL for competitive losses? LOL
(BTW anyone who saw the second half of the FSU game might think you do not know the meaning of "competitive.")
I've gotta be honest, I have no idea what Slugger and Public Enemy have been arguing about for 2 pages. Last years Louisville team was what it was...it wasn't a "great" team...but it wasn't supposed to be a great team. They had one of the youngest rosters in the NCAA. started 3 different QBs, opened up the season at a neutral site game against what supposed to be a good Auburn team and followed that up with a game against 11-1 Houston and 12-1 Clemson...so for a young team to start the season like that and not collapse was something worth celebrating.
They didn't really beat anyone of significance...but they didn't lose to any bad teams either. They beat every team they were better than and lost to the teams that were better than them. For a young team, start 0-3, be down 3 TDs on the road to their rival and win fairly easily and then finish 8-5, thats pretty good. We can make excuses for the TAMU game or dissect their record down the last snap..but it is, what it is. UL fans don't need to explain or apologize for their record. Last years team wasn't "good" but it was certainly a cause for great optimism and it certainly showed the potential and glimpses of what we might see in 2016.
Simply look at last years UK season as a comparison for what I mean...UKs season could have went like Louisville's and showed some progress and UK still wouldn't have beaten anyone of consequence. UK could have demolished EKU, beaten Vandy and Louisville...stayed competitive with UGA, MSU and UT and finished 7-5, yet they would have beaten 0 good teams. If that were the case UK fans would be singing from the rooftops right now. Last season went the complete opposite and was a disaster for Stoops. Losing to Vandy, almost losing to EKU, collapsing the last half of the season for the second year in a row, blowing a 3 TD lead at home to Louisville, getting taken to the woodshed by UGA, UT and MSU.... Thats all I'm saying about last years UL team...they weren't a "good" team but they weren't bad either and things could have went A LOT worse last year.
They didn't really beat anyone of significance...but they didn't lose to any bad teams either. They beat every team they were better than and lost to the teams that were better than them. For a young team, start 0-3, be down 3 TDs on the road to their rival and win fairly easily and then finish 8-5, thats pretty good. We can make excuses for the TAMU game or dissect their record down the last snap..but it is, what it is. UL fans don't need to explain or apologize for their record. Last years team wasn't "good" but it was certainly a cause for great optimism and it certainly showed the potential and glimpses of what we might see in 2016.
Simply look at last years UK season as a comparison for what I mean...UKs season could have went like Louisville's and showed some progress and UK still wouldn't have beaten anyone of consequence. UK could have demolished EKU, beaten Vandy and Louisville...stayed competitive with UGA, MSU and UT and finished 7-5, yet they would have beaten 0 good teams. If that were the case UK fans would be singing from the rooftops right now. Last season went the complete opposite and was a disaster for Stoops. Losing to Vandy, almost losing to EKU, collapsing the last half of the season for the second year in a row, blowing a 3 TD lead at home to Louisville, getting taken to the woodshed by UGA, UT and MSU.... Thats all I'm saying about last years UL team...they weren't a "good" team but they weren't bad either and things could have went A LOT worse last year.
On the flip side...I think UK had a great opportunity( and maybe should have) to beat otis, Vandy and fla last year and they would have gone 8-4 and bowling with a fired up fanbase this year, but it is what it is...I have argued thru all this that Otis was an average to mediocre ( Strongtino's words) team last year, but guys like PE are acting like they are going to be Clemson's and FSU's worst nightmare when I think they need to worry about the teams they barely beat last year...I think several acc programs made some serious coaching upgrades last year that may heip them make some great strides next year...and Otis struggled with several of them...should be an interesting year...at UK thus is a huge year because they are going to be in a year where a decision is going to have be made about MS future or he is going to be lame duck...either we are going to have to go bowling or be very competitive and not get blown out by anyone.
They were an average team last year....but I think the point I'm trying to make is, just because they were average last year doesn't mean they will be average this year. There were enough glimpses of what they "could" be last year and like I said, a ton of positives from the 2015 season to lead most to believe they will be a pretty darn good team in 2016. You seem to make the assumption that because teams hired a new coach they will better, yet UL - starting the youngest lineup in the country last year and returning either the most or close to the most starters, won't be better this year.I don't think anyone thinks this team is Clemson's or FSU's worst nightmare but that we should be much improved this year but games vs FSU, @Clemson and @Houston will show us where this team is.
As far as UK goes...this is a tough year to expect Stoops to go to a bowl. Stoops just need to show that he's headed in the right direction and make strides on the field instead of the recruiting trail. Because of his contract UK is chained to him for the next 2-3 seasons. I'm pretty skeptical of his ability to coach and develop talent, so this season will be a real litmus test as to where his tenure at UK is headed.
I agree with your assessment on Stoops from a coaching stand point, BUT if he hangs on 2-3 more yrs strictly because of his contract then UK can look for another fan revolt like the one with Joker except this time I think they lose those fans for good...as far as going bowling this year I expect wins over So. Mss-NMS-SC-vandy-MST-Mizzou -AP-otis...unrealistic to you maybe , but this is his 4th yr here and I'm tired of excuses and the disasters on the sideline with the coaches need to end..
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I'm not sure its wise to specify a win total at this point for UK. Vandy will have a good defense next year, no way Missouri or USCjr are as bad as they were lat year and Southern Miss has a great QB and the Louisville game is in Louisville.
I'm not sure what else UK can do with Stoops contract. His buyout before the end of the 2017 season is pretty significant and I want to say its around $6 million if he's fired before the end of the 2018 season...not pocket change for any university. Stoops just needs to show he's a capable HC and talent developer. I'll just be brutally honest, I think he's been a borderline disaster on the sidelines and the development department. Some of that was due to a young, inexperienced staff that he surrounded himself with and some was his own fault. But if I were a UK fan I would simply look for him to take positive steps forward this year in developing talent and managing a game. He's made numerous head scratching decisions on the sidelines and his teams have looked unprepared on several occasions.
He's coached in 24 SEC games, only won 4 and is losing by over 20 points per game on average including losses of 41-3, 63-31, 50-16, 27-3, 52-21, 42-16 , 59-17, 22-6, and 48-7. So its been bad...they just need to stride toward digging themselves out of the ditch and avoid being beat down. Something else that I find telling is that the defense has been as bad these last 3 years as its been in the last decade and Stoops was supposed to be a defensive guru. Stoops total defense ranking the last 2 years are the two lowest rankings UK has finished in 10 years. Stoops just needs to look competent and look like they have slowed the free-fall...because from the outside looking in...his 3 years have been more bad than good.
Guess I should have made myself clearer...I could take 5-7 , but it is time for the embarrassing losses to come to an end , but I'm probably an exception to most of the FB fan base... and you speak of these of other teams getting better so should not we UK fans expect the same improvement
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No we should expect UK to get better. Thats what I'm saying..and Stoops hasn't really shown that his teams "get better." I mean they've improved from that 2-10 season but (and granted I've only seen them play 2-3 times per season) I'm not sure I've seen UK get any better in the last 2 years under Stoops. Part of my point was that this year....we should see some forward momentum. Some players getting better, games being closer, fewer mistakes on the sidelines and better play calling. UKs problems are coming from both sides right now...they need better players and they also need the coaches to get better. Most programs simply need to rebuild the roster, but UK needs to rebuild the roster and see some kind of proof that Stoops and his staff are competent enough to lead them out of the SEC cellar. If Stoops stumbles his way through another 5-7 season and his teams lose big to Alabama, Florida, Tennessee and Louisville, he looks confused on the sidelines and the offense and defense never really gain a footing or an identity then UK will be in a really tough spot next Fall.
The FSU game was simple us not being able to tackle Cook, and that has nothing to do with the stats Jackson put up. Same with the A&M game a 3rd string QB had nothing to do with Jackson's stats. And I didn't mention Jacksons stats againt UK as that defense couldn't stop a nose bleed.
AS for the argument UofL was a below average team last year as we played many young unexprienced players. Coaching brought us up to an average team even after starting the season 0-3. Outsiders looking in doesn't feel UK will improve because they lose 6 of their finally 7 games last year. lost 6 straight to finish the 2014 season. And breaking in a new starter at QB this year on top of everything.
As I said earlier I'm convinced that the reason for your 6-2 finish is playing 5 teams with a combined record of 19/41 and besting them by a combined total 39 pts while the two teams you played with winning records otis lost both by double digits and were dominated by both...but 2016 is a new year or both schools
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As I said an average team at best last year, nobody is saying we were great. Common sense tells you finishing 8-2 is better that 1-6 or whatever UK was.
Ok..that is correct, BUT...UK's finishing opponents, and I left off eku like i left off Samford for otis ...had combined records of 63-51 with six of those teams playing and winning bowl games...not exactly apples to apples...common sense can also tell you other things
OK not sure the point your trying to make, I've said SEVERAL different times UofL was an average team at best last year, and that was most due to the coaching and progression of Lamar Jackson. Also the coaching staff finding ways to utilize him. Towles was a 4 Star top 10 position ranked QB, and UK never got any good football out of him. Basically all they had to do was beat a 4-8 Vandy team, and by your own admission a very below average UofL team after leading 24-7. Barker is a 4 Star top 5 ranked position player, interested to see what UK can get out of him.
I think you should be banned here for constantly spinning the same drivel. "We're in the preseason top 25, handling our business, it is what it is, oh yea we won the orange bowl against wake and we beat Florida too"
He definitely should be banned for the post you quoted. He was also poking fun at UK's losing streak against Florida. "And Louisville within the past 4 years has beaten a team that UK hasn't since Ronald Reagan was president." Just keep reporting their posts, and maybe something will finally get done.
This is actually the most sensible post you have ever authored. Hard to argue with much of what you say here.
This would certainly get you banned over there...I don't understand why the mods here are so lenient when we are treated lie scum over there
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