Horrendous recruiting

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Why do the players on other teams play harder than our players? They are getting paid too.
Several issues I imagine, gotta say the effort we saw in a lot of games last year wasn’t close to what we would have seen ten years ago. Could be people getting paid knowing they’re not going to the next level, locker room issues, idk. Gotta have a leader to motivate them though, on the bench and on the court. Guys aren’t going to buy into passive **** and they’ll eventually say to hell with it, pretty much why we’ve been drubbed in several games.
 

bnewt

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I mean, they’re pretty ruthless on Twitter and Facebook. And somehow we got BYU and Arkansas fans laughing at us in the comment sections of anything regarding Kentucky. It’s really freaking embarrassing being a Kentucky basketball fan right now. Thank God for football.
Football took a chance and hired an energetic youngster that lives for the game. Basketball will not take the same route
 

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What "super star" coach would even come to uk?
Should have gotten pearl for 3 or 4 years and been looking all that time.
Gonna take a young, thirsty, energetic coach that lives and breathes the game to bring the fans, money men and players back to the top.
A clone of Rick pitino is needed
Barnhart destroyed us in that search, Pearl was my choice for someone who wanted to be and could actually motivate these guys. No way in hell Mitch was gonna let that happen, dude was a phony just trying to preserve his holier than though image.
 
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bnewt

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I mean, there’s no denying we’ve had some minor setbacks in recruiting over the past few years, though Pope knows what he’s doing and he’s looking for his specific type of players, trust in the process.
Minor setbacks 🤣
Pope has lost and held for hostage by every top recruit since he arrived, even offering the most $.
That is major imo
 

KYFOSSIL

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Ok. When personal attacks are all you have it kinda settles it.
Well, I'm glad we settled it. Sir, I did not call you a name. I said what you would be if you truly thought cow was on top of the world the past five years of his time here so actually it would be self-inflicted shame on you.
 

The Nightman2

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I believe that’s why we are stuck with Pope is the money is going to football and I hate that. Kentucky will always be known for basketball and football will have good seasons every now and then but keeping the coach from being poached will be tough
Basketball has more than enough money. Money is not the problem at all
 
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It's hard to win titles.

If your takeaway is "well Cal only won one title with all that talent" .................I dunno what to say.

You NEED to have that talent in the first place to even be in the conversation.

People can have their gripes with Cal and I get it but even on the tail end of his time here we still had teams that had really good seasons, were talented, and was at least in the conversation. And there was STILL excittement from the fanbase. Even at the end.

Now we don't.
 

Snarks

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What "super star" coach would even come to uk?
Should have gotten pearl for 3 or 4 years and been looking all that time.
Gonna take a young, thirsty, energetic coach that lives and breathes the game to bring the fans, money men and players back to the top.
A clone of Rick pitino is needed
Jai Lucas. While he’s a bit of a gamble, he’s smart, motivated, and can recruit.
 
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You damned right I’m embarrassed having to fight in the mud with f*cking Arkansas fans and Mormons of all people.

Have some f*cking pride.
Coach cal went to Arkansas and won the sec tournament 😂😂😂 in year 2. Arkansas won the sec tournament and finished 3rd in the SEC regular season. Meanwhile mark pope finished 9th! Sad sad days here in Bloomington. Coach cal is turning Arkansas around, while mark pope has turned Kentucky into The Hoosiers!
 
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Runt#1969

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I've been around watching things for over 50 years. Seen some shizznitt happen. Seen the aftermath. Been good and great times and bad.

This is popcorn level shake my head, hope for the best, prepare for the worst times for Kentucky basketball. Try to keep the faith times. But I Bleed Blue. I'll be here supporting Kentucky until I die.

I just hope - I'm 57, my dad passed away at 76, so if I live as long as he did, I hope I can go out in my last year and see another title at Kentucky. I'm wondering very seriously if it can ever happen again.

With the recruiting situation as it stands, Pope has utterly failed. Portal and whatnot, it doesn't cut it here. Under no measure.
 

Johnnie Africa

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I've been around watching things for over 50 years. Seen some shizznitt happen. Seen the aftermath. Been good and great times and bad.

This is popcorn level shake my head, hope for the best, prepare for the worst times for Kentucky basketball. Try to keep the faith times. But I Bleed Blue. I'll be here supporting Kentucky until I die.

I just hope - I'm 57, my dad passed away at 76, so if I live as long as he did, I hope I can go out in my last year and see another title at Kentucky. I'm wondering very seriously if it can ever happen again.

With the recruiting situation as it stands, Pope has utterly failed. Portal and whatnot, it doesn't cut it here. Under no measure.

Am I wrong in thinking 76 is young to die unless you have a serious health issue?
 

Catastic5

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Jai Lucas. While he’s a bit of a gamble, he’s smart, motivated, and can recruit.
I’ve kinda cooled on Jai a bit. We really need someone whose personality gels with Kentucky’s fanbase. Guys like Cal and Pitino got it. Even if Pope could recruit and coach better, his personality is a major turnoff for many UK fans.

If we can’t get Oats, take a shot at the Providence coach.
 

BookofMormon

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I’ll say this… Rival fan bases have went rather easy on BBN over this, and if this was happening to ANY of their head coaches, there would be multiple 1000 page threads on here, roasting them with reckless abandon and without mercy, for the indefinite foreseeable future!

So, I guess we should be grateful for that.
Sarcasm?
 

BookofMormon

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Thats why Pitino and Cal succeeded here and elsewhere.

Thats why i dont get people saying we are above hiring Pearl or Oats or Golden. All UK fans care about is winning. And rightfully so. Its a game for entertainment
Pitino & Cal recruited here when there was no NIL.

Take a look at Cal's class so far this year. Don't look too hard - he hans't signed anyone yet. Technically Pope has a better class so far.
 

BookofMormon

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What "super star" coach would even come to uk?
Should have gotten pearl for 3 or 4 years and been looking all that time.
Gonna take a young, thirsty, energetic coach that lives and breathes the game to bring the fans, money men and players back to the top.
A clone of Rick pitino is needed
Million dollar question. UK should be working the channels today to understand who would entertain.

If you want a clone of Rick Pitino, he's got a son.
 

bnewt

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Pitino & Cal recruited here when there was no NIL.

Take a look at Cal's class so far this year. Don't look too hard - he hans't signed anyone yet. Technically Pope has a better class so far.
As much as I dislike ccc, he will end up with a better class than pope
He did last year and will this year
 
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Bernie4blue

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I was getting tired of the 1 and dones. Here for a few months then gone. I like that some players are actually for 2 or 3 years. Weren't we getting beat by teams with veterans in the tourney under Cal? Wasn't anyone else tired of that? I'm good with the 4 star players who will stick around for a few years. The ones just under the NBA radar who can play and help us win. The team can be better than the sum of the individuals. Pope needs to coach them up. It's possible. Stein is doing it for football without the 5 star guys. Time for Pope to step up too.
 
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BookofMormon

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Jai Lucas. While he’s a bit of a gamble, he’s smart, motivated, and can recruit.
Does Steve Erkel look like the right fit for UK? I just don't see it. This place needs an alpha, Pitino, Cal. Presence. If the team loses, someone strong enough to tell BBN to STFU and be patient and make the fans believe it.

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BookofMormon

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I was getting tired of the 1 and dones. Here for a few months then gone. I like that some players are actually for 2 or 3 years. Weren't we getting beat by teams with veterans in the tourney under Cal? Wasn't anyone else tired of that? I'm good with the 4 star players who will stick around for a few years. The ones just under the NBA radar who can play and help us win. The team can be better than the sum of the individuals. Pope needs to coach them up. It's possible. Stein is doing it for football without the 5 star guys. Time for Pope to step up too.
Right blend is a mix of 1-2 OADs and other multi year players. You have NBA talent, yet some seniority and friendly faces.

You don't have to look too hard. Scheyer's starting lineup this year will have Ngongba in his third year, Sarr in second, JBB the freshman lottery pick, Blackwell senior transfer.

Hurley seems to find kids that are on the two year plan to the NBA.
 

BookofMormon

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His roster at Miami is better than any roster popes put together lol
It's going to take more than just a recruiter. You want someone that can coach, have a system, be a leader, fit Lexington.

This year a good test for Jai - he's got a top ten roster. Let's see what he can do with it. Have other thoughts regarding Jai that make me wonder if he'd want to coach UK.
 

BigBluefoot

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We had 12 years of the best talent in America before pope got here and got one natty showing for it and the last 6 years was a disaster too . Just saying
The objective was to replace a coach who was a really good recruiter , but couldn't coach with a coach who might not be as great of a recruiter, but could coach. Barnhart managed to hire one who isn't good at either.
This isn't a Cal vs Pope issue. They both suck at their jobs. Just in different ways.
 
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