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AssEndDawg

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jfs131 said:
I can go ahead and you that almost every home game this year has the potential of a sell out. Jackson State has a great possibility-opening game and its against in "instate foe" we haven't played since I don't know when. Ole Miss will almost certainly be a sell out unless they don't live up to the hype which I hope they don't. Alabama is only 84 miles down Highway 82 and they will bring some fans, good chance there. Florida and LSU probably won't be sell outs but could be close, but if we are halfway descent going into those games, another good chance of a sell out. Georgia Tech probably won't be that big of a crowd unless again, we are descent, and Houston is homecoming which usually never means much in Starkville, but maybe Mullen can market this game like he did for the Spring Game. So I would say we have a chance at having some sell outs and breaking the record crowd that we had in the 2007 season against Alabama. Seeing that stadium without one empty seat and people standing in the ailse and the walk ways up to the upper decks was truely a sight to see for a bulldog fan.
This is the first season in the history of the SEC, and MSU, that every single game will be on television. While I think we will see some excitement for the new offense and coach the only thing this season has potential for is to be the worst attended season ever. Knowing I can always stay home and watch it on TV will make the little pessimist in me really loud if we start sucking.
 

bulldogbaja

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But Ellis Johnson's defenses kept us in a lot of games. For next season only, I don't think we go into every single game with a better chance, and that's partially due to the schedule also.
 

SLUdog

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the 2009 schedule appears to be more difficult. If our new coach loses to some of the the teams to which Croom lost the he will be criticized in the same manner and deserve it.
 

catvet

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We would also get more walk up traffic. When Ole miss expanded their stadium, they were able to increase their numbers even in losing seasons with O due to the fact that people knew that they were fairly assured of a ticket if they went. The same would happen for us. A causual fan of the team or a family that didn't have tickets would be more likely to come up knowing that they didn't really have to plan ahead of time. It is opposite with the Hump. Most people know that their are no tickets available and are unwilling to travel to Starkville with the hope of a scalper ticket. It is also why during some of the major basketball games we play, we have an attendance of 7500 instead of capacity.
 

basedog

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Btw, this friend of mine and his dad are huge Msu fans, he suggested the idea to LT while all of the equipment was there and it could have been done pretty easy. You may be right on what you say, but at the time it was a pretty good idea for the future.
 

NavinJohnson

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AssEndDawg said:
jfs131 said:
I can go ahead and you that almost every home game this year has the potential of a sell out. Jackson State has a great possibility-opening game and its against in "instate foe" we haven't played since I don't know when. Ole Miss will almost certainly be a sell out unless they don't live up to the hype which I hope they don't. Alabama is only 84 miles down Highway 82 and they will bring some fans, good chance there. Florida and LSU probably won't be sell outs but could be close, but if we are halfway descent going into those games, another good chance of a sell out. Georgia Tech probably won't be that big of a crowd unless again, we are descent, and Houston is homecoming which usually never means much in Starkville, but maybe Mullen can market this game like he did for the Spring Game. So I would say we have a chance at having some sell outs and breaking the record crowd that we had in the 2007 season against Alabama. Seeing that stadium without one empty seat and people standing in the ailse and the walk ways up to the upper decks was truely a sight to see for a bulldog fan.
This is the first season in the history of the SEC, and MSU, that every single game will be on television. While I think we will see some excitement for the new offense and coach the only thing this season has potential for is to be the worst attended season ever. Knowing I can always stay home and watch it on TV will make the little pessimist in me really loud if we start sucking.
Wow, do you really think we'll have worse attendance? I say no way will we have less than last season--for one thing, the better opponents are at home, and those games have always had bigger crowds, even if the game was on TV. The Egg Bowl is on Saturday and that will help some, too. But mostly just the optimism will improve the attendance. We may not reach 2007's 49-50k average, but we'll be a lot higher than 43k in 2008. If we start winning, we'll beat 50k easily.

I'm with the "if you build it, they will come" crowd. Horseshoeing in the North Endzone will increase attendance. For one thing, there are probably a lot of people that just don't like the upper deck seats (I prefer upper deck sidelines to endzone). More walk-up sales as non-season ticket holders will more likely drive in for the big games if they know they can get tickets. The expansion will give Davis Wade a more 'finished' look and be more appealing to fans and especially to recruits.
 

Bulldog Backer

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Coach34 said:
i think attendance stays up due to the fact that we will be very competitve and people see we will have a chance again every week like we did during most of Jackie's tenure
This time Coach is right. We have a much tougher schedule this year, but we will also have a tougher team. There are several reasons:

1. Much better coaching.
2. Much better offensive scheme.
3. Much better kicking/punting specialists.
4. Much more speed.

I also agree that should the season turn sour, the attendance will go south. MSU fans have been, for the most part, conditioned to failure and get depressed at the first sign of bad news. Mullen is trying to change that, but it will be a tough sell until we start winning regularly.
 

AssEndDawg

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I'm all for expanding the stadium, I'm just talking potential here. I think we do better than next year but if we start sucking the fact that all games are on TV just make it too easy to sit at home. I don't think that will happen but you never know.
 

jfs131

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AssEndDawg said:
I'm all for expanding the stadium, I'm just talking potential here. I think we do better than next year but if we start sucking the fact that all games are on TV just make it too easy to sit at home. I don't think that will happen but you never know.

How do you know every one of our games in on TV? I can't see Houston, JSU on TV. The Arkansas game is NEVER on TV. I would be surprised if the GT game was on TV after last year as well.
 

SheltonChoked

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ESPN/SEC Agreement

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ESPN has acquired rights to every SEC home football game (excluding those on the network broadcast package) and will serve as the exclusive national cable home and the syndication rightsholder for the conference.</p>
 

jfs131

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SheltonChoked said:
ESPN/SEC Agreement

</p>

ESPN has acquired rights to every SEC home football game (excluding those on the network broadcast package) and will serve as the exclusive national cable home and the syndication rightsholder for the conference.</p>
Just because they own the rights does that mean that EVERY game WILL be televised? I just can't see MSU/JSU and MSU/HOUSTON getting a large viewing audience outside MSU fans and JSU and Houstons.
 

SheltonChoked

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In football, all of the football games to which the conference controls the rights will be televised on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN U, ESPN Classic, on an expanded over the air syndication package, ESPN Game Plan, regional cable package or on CBS.

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Q. With regard to college football, does this mean that every SEC game, every game involving an SEC team would be available in some form on ESPN, on some platform, either regional or the pay per view ESPN game plan?</p>

COMMISSIONER SLIVE: Add CBS to that, David.</p>

PETE DERZIS: So every home football game or every football game that the conference has a right to will be televised on one or more of the various packages or platforms either over the air, on a network platform or one of the ESPN platforms, including over the air and on regional cable.</p>

Q. Burke, if I'm the fan sitting at home I understand CBS, and I understand ESPN, I understand ESPN2. I'm used to that. What I need you to tell me is what happens after that? If you're the fan at home the game that I'm used to getting from Raycom or Jefferson or Lincoln Financial, where am I going to look for that game now?</p>

BURKE MAGNUS: Let me start first, then Pete can add his thoughts relative to syndication. But as Commissioner Slive mentioned at the top, we are going to have through ESPN regional television, the traditional over the air syndicated package that will be SEC branded that the conference and ERT will work together to distribute over the air in all the major markets where Raycom was and beyond.</p>

As you know, ESPN regional is the largest syndicator in the country, and we've been very successful over the years distributing content from the Big Ten, and the Big East and Big 12 and others. So this model will now apply to SEC, whereas, Raycom would have filled that role to a certain degree in the past.</p>

But for as far as syndicated games are concerned and then beyond that through ESPN U and regional cable packages, the bottom line here is that fans of SEC football will have more access to more games and better distribution than they've ever had in the past.

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Croomp

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AssEndDawg said:
jfs131 said:
I can go ahead and you that almost every home game this year has the potential of a sell out. Jackson State has a great possibility-opening game and its against in "instate foe" we haven't played since I don't know when. Ole Miss will almost certainly be a sell out unless they don't live up to the hype which I hope they don't. Alabama is only 84 miles down Highway 82 and they will bring some fans, good chance there. Florida and LSU probably won't be sell outs but could be close, but if we are halfway descent going into those games, another good chance of a sell out. Georgia Tech probably won't be that big of a crowd unless again, we are descent, and Houston is homecoming which usually never means much in Starkville, but maybe Mullen can market this game like he did for the Spring Game. So I would say we have a chance at having some sell outs and breaking the record crowd that we had in the 2007 season against Alabama. Seeing that stadium without one empty seat and people standing in the ailse and the walk ways up to the upper decks was truely a sight to see for a bulldog fan.
This is the first season in the history of the SEC, and MSU, that every single game will be on television. While I think we will see some excitement for the new offense and coach the only thing this season has potential for is to be the worst attended season ever. Knowing I can always stay home and watch it on TV will make the little pessimist in me really loud if we start sucking.

We are still going to get big money from it being televised and that will make up for our already poor attendance history. In all honesty I don't see this hurting our attendance either especially with Byrne and Mullen advertising our program so well. Mullen will have his back up against the wall if we lose an easy game but at the same time our schedule is filled with top 25 opponents at home and we are playing 7 home games not 6. Thats enough reason for the attendance to be up and most of the schools we play should bring strong numbers to help our cause in populating the stadium.

And seeing how vocal Mullen is and the amount of support he already has earned (30,000+ at his first Spring game as a head coach), I just don't see in any way how he couldn't get sellouts for our big games next season. This upcoming season attendance should be up. Maybe in a few years it decreases but not his initial season in maroon and white.
 

DawgTilDead

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I really really hope that the seats start as close to the back of the endzone as possible. At Florida, the endzone seats are basically right on top of the field, a luxury Coach Mullen has enjoyed. I love good ol' Davis Wade Stadium, but our stadium seems so far from the field. I think it would look great if the connection was made to go straight across right next to the endzone instead of making a horse shoe. Not to mention, the fans would be rediculously loud, ringing their cowbells literally in their ears when the opposing team was in the redzone, or backed up for a safety.
 

Agentdog

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I am not clear on exactly what portion of the north endzone your friend wanted to work on. If it was to drive pylons for the lower level, to extend and match the lower west and east side, I say LT screwed up. The pylons for the west and east side lower levels were done decades before those expansions. We could have built a lower level that "bowls" in the north endzone just as easily as throwing some cheap *** bleachers out there and cementing them down.

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