Hosting a Regional and not expecting to win?

[onewoof]

Comments on UM's win tonight.

1) Pom may have thrown his arm out to save Bianco's dipshit decision yesterday. I guess we will see next weekend and later this summer on that one.

2) David Kellum is an embarrassment to NCAA Division I athletics

3) Hosting a regional: good. Expecting to win that regional you host: expected. Winning a super regional that you host: depends on the program.

4) Lets not forget that MSU took a very average team to the CWS just a mere 2 years ago. Lets see if UM and USM can make it past their Super Regionals. I wouldn't bet money on either, but here is hoping for the best.

 

[onewoof]

Comments on UM's win tonight.

1) Pom may have thrown his arm out to save Bianco's dipshit decision yesterday. I guess we will see next weekend and later this summer on that one.

2) David Kellum is an embarrassment to NCAA Division I athletics

3) Hosting a regional: good. Expecting to win that regional you host: expected. Winning a super regional that you host: depends on the program.

4) Lets not forget that MSU took a very average team to the CWS just a mere 2 years ago. Lets see if UM and USM can make it past their Super Regionals. I wouldn't bet money on either, but here is hoping for the best.

 

[Roscoe.sixpack]

I think he's ok. Not much else of your post really made sense.

 

[onewoof]

Pom was pitching on pure adrenaline with the crowd shouting his name. Great for him and the emotion of the moment... Bianco was all giddy in the post game interviews. Pitching that much with 4 days rest - like I said, it will show up next weekend and later this summer.

Welcome to post season baseball. Its fun.

 

[Woosaa]

Pom was pitching on pure adrenaline with the crowd shouting his name. Great for him and the emotion of the moment... Bianco was all giddy in the post game interviews. Pitching that much with 4 days rest - like I said, it will show up next weekend and later this summer.

Welcome to post season baseball. Its fun.

Because Ole Miss is definitely just getting their first taste of post season baseball. Really? That was as ballsy a performance as I've seen from a pitcher in a good while. They may not win their Super, which they have now hosted more than we have, but I would sure hate for us to still be playing. And please don't comment that we have a better program, because I agree with that, and we will be back. Sooner rather than later.

Of course he was pitching on pure adrenaline, dubmass. He didn't throw a non-fastball that I could see after the 7th inning. How does that diminish what he just did? And unless Bianco is as stupid as you are, he won't be pitching Pomeranz on Friday, which will give him at least 4-5 days of rest, depending on how Friday's game goes and whether Bittle is available. I mean seriously, there is this thing called an internal monologue. Use it.

P.S. There is no doubt in my mind they will blow another great opportunity to make Omaha. But don't belittle a great performance like that.

 

[Henry Kissinger]

How does that diminish what he just did?

 

[TBonewannabe]

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[Bulldog from Birth]

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[Optimus Prime 4]

but if I'm not mistaken CC Sabathia did that two or three times last year, and he seems ok.

/not that Pom is CC by any stretch..

 

[RebelBruiser]

If you're Mark Prior, pitching on 5 days rest isn't enough. If you're Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, or CC Sabbathia, you can pitch on two days rest.

I thought it was risky to do that with Pomeranz, but I can't blame Bianco for sticking with him. It's hard to pull a pitcher when he's got a no-hitter going. That's one of those unwritten rules. As for Pomeranz, he really didn't show signs of fatigue, which is a good sign that pitching on short rest wasn't bothering him. His fastball never lost velocity, and his curve ball was still biting hard in the late innings. In contrast, the WKU pitcher, who was also starting on two days rest, lost about 5 mph of velocity on his fastball by the 6th inning. You could tell the fatigue was catching up to his arm.

Still the most unbelievable pitching performance I've probably ever seen at the college level when you throw in the circumstances.

 

[imissplatinumplus]

was #2. David Yellum Kellum is a joke. I listened to a little of the game last night and thougth that sounded like a drunk meth head at a Widespread concert. He is by far the worst announcer ever. I am no friend of Olemiss but that guy is just embarassing.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

that's not their audience.

And I don't like Kellum either. I do think Darby is good at baseball though.

 

[futaba.79]

Who's that? You must mean G-Darb.</p>

 

[onemorebeer]

Isn't Cohen known to do that as well? Also, the WKU pitcher was going on two days rest and went 7 innings. If I'm not mistaken, Texas did that with their best reliever as he pitched over 9 innings in the 25 inning game before pitching again the next day.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

A lot of articles I've read that have to do with pitcher's injuries in the majors consistently bring up Prior and how his college coach at USC over threw his arm multiple times.

Just thought it was a bit ironic..

 

[KurtRambis4]

have a problem with is the assclowns that came on here raising hell about cohen for "abusing" whitney. however, these same people have repeatedly ingored us questioning why they don't have a problem with bianco "abusing" pomeranz. i mean it's pretty evident why they aren't responding, but still, i wish they would at least try to make an attempt at rationalizing why it's ok. this excuse that "well it's the postseason blaaah" just doesn't fly. if one feels that you're injuring someones arm, you're injuring someones arm. plain and simple. i personally have no problem with bianco and cohen's decisions because i have some common sense and realize that these two pitchers were capable of doing what was asked of them.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[dawgstudent]

the hell that was raised by some Ole Miss fans that Cohen pitched a guy 140 pitches.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and Drew only threw 119, not 140 ... (just forget he pitched on Friday too, k?)

 

[KurtRambis4]

don't remember but i definately recall the usual om idiot (diamond,omgrad, etc) that was on here and that's who i'm talking about. i could really give a **** about our idiots, bc this is a msu board. however, i cannot tolerate the om idiots chiming in. where's ronny when you need him? we need to review the archive.

 

[dawgstudent]

but I want to say NAFOOM had some comments about it as well. I could be wrong.

 

[BigLeagueChew]

Just out of curiosity, how many times did Cohen "abuse" Whitney's arm or anyone else's on the team.

My point....if it happens once, that's not abusing an arm; however, an argument can easily be made if it happens on a regular basis.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Bianco has done it on occasion. I know that Lance Lynn threw 140+ pitches once or twice. Will Kline either came close to 140 or passed it a few times.

Part of the reason for those was simply because our bullpen sucked and Bianco was trying to win a game. Bianco is not immune to arm abuse, and I said I thought it was questionable to bring Pomeranz back on short rest. Obviously the WKU coach did the same thing. I think it's dangerous for sure, and I'm not a big fan of it.

However, as I also said yesterday, I'm selfish too, so I want to win. If you asked me if I'd rather have had Pomeranz throw 119 pitches in a complete game win or have Barrett throw 5 innings in a loss, I'd take the win and the pitcher abuse. Again, the one thing I'll say in favor of Bianco in this case is that with Pomeranz, you could tell he wasn't feeling the fatigue based on the way his pitches looked. That's the encouraging thing to me that leads me to believe he'll be alright.

 

[8dog]

if you look at pitch counts at KY last year, they are really good. That being said, he's like any other coach when it comes to winning.

I don't think it was that big of a deal to throw pomeranz yesterday. And I thought it was insane the way people overreacted to Whitney's pitch count.

The funny thing is when Rebel Bruiser posted that Cohen was hurting another pitcher's arm when Routt got into the 120 range one weekend.

 

[KurtRambis4]

it only happened once and you have the morons coming out of the woodworks wanting to burn cohen at the stake. again, i don't think either coach made a bad decision.

*edited to add: to put it bluntly, the people that were raising the most hell were the ones that were the least informed and quite frankly, don't have any clue how baseball works.....17 years or not.

 

[thelaw]

However, as I also said yesterday, I'm selfish too, so I want to win.

Yesterday you were wailing about the potential pro-future of pitchers and how its dangerous to pitch them that long because coaches should care about where they'll play in a few years.

 

[rebelrouseri]

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[olemissbydamn]

The only reb that was being an *** about in the sixpack thread was reb04. And he'll take the opposite side of an MSU arguement everytime. Bruiser had a few comments, but he was balanced as usual. Roscoe had one comment. The rest were MSU fans.

I'd like to add that the scenarios were slightly different. Whitney was throwing for a team in the cellar during the regular season. I'd like to think that us scratching to stay alive in the post season is a little different.

The thread is below.

http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com?topic=23239?page=1

 

[RebelBruiser]

However, as I also said yesterday, I'm selfish too, so I want to win.

Yesterday you were wailing about the potential pro-future of pitchers and how its dangerous to pitch them that long because coaches should care about where they'll play in a few years.

And yesterday I also said I was a selfish hypocrite that wants to win more than anything. I felt like it was dangerous to go back to Pomeranz, especially for a lengthy outing. It was mixed emotions.

 

[KurtRambis4]

that the situations were different. However if your argument is based on the concern of someone getting hurt, do you not agree that you should be equally upset (in both situations)?

 

[jackstefano]

that in your situation the story was accompanied by accounts of Cohen berating the pitcher afterwards, and the pitcher's father essentially saying he wanted to kick Cohen's ***. Couple all of that with Cohen's little stretch where he was calling out the players a lot, and you get that reaction from message board fans. I thought and still think Cohen was pushing the envelope by pitching the kid so hard. But I'd think that about an OM coach too.

 

[olemissbydamn]

I agree.

I just think you naturally want to direct your anger at rebs, when the thread I linked below was mostly MSU fans. You mentioned Grad and Diamondreb, but they weren't in that thread I linked (maybe they commented on nafoom, I don't remember).

 

[KurtRambis4]

actually bowen's dad that went nuts? also, the "players hating cohen" posts were made mostly by the clown that later admitted to making half the **** up, i believe. i could be wrong because i tend to pay attention to the games/stats/action on the field rather than the BS that the cohen bashers always bring up. honestly, it has nothing to do with the game and is, as i said, BS. also, sorry for mistaking on who the actual rebs were but i just assumed that they were in on the action since they're, generally speaking, morons. like i said, i try to not pay a whole lot of attention to the BS that the bashers bring up. however, when i'm presented a chance to prove them wrong (which is quite often) i make good on the opportunity.

 

[Todd4State]

if we had won that UT series, we had a chance to get to postseason play. I think that was a big reason why he did it. We may have ended up in the cellar, but we weren't at the time of that series. After that we had a series against UK for SBW, and winning those those two could have put us in contention for the eighth spot in the SEC and given our team some confidence.