Hosts are 1-8 in RPI, 11-15, 18, 22, and 31

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Probably, but then again who knows? If they'd followed RPI very closely like they have the last few years, I'd agree that we'd be hosting if we'd scheduled smarter and/or won a few more games.

But since they left out 2 top 10 teams and gave host bids to #22 and #31, who can say whether or not we would have gotten one if we'd gotten out RPI into the teens?
Wake got left out bc they always use conference record/finish as a backstop. They were 15-15 and finished tied for 8th in the ACC. We would have been in if the staff had tried.
 
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Agree. We absolutely deserve to host. But if we simply schedule a tournament or road series vs a halfway decent team instead of 3 at home vs Mount St Mary, we’re probably hosting.
Take msm off the schedule, put houston in....getting swept. Does that really help?
 

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If we get swept by #112 Houston, no. But odds of us not taking at least two are pretty low. Point is, MSM is a freaking RPI killer even when you sweep.
The schedule was bad. People got tired of me saying it. But with smart scheduling we are 5-10 points higher rpi which could have made all the difference
 
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All we had to do was win 3 of the 6 bad home losses and we’re 10th. Win 2 of them and we were 15 or 16.

However Replace MSM and UNA with Murray State and win 3/4 we are likely around 19.
 
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The schedule was bad. People got tired of me saying it. But with smart scheduling we are 5-10 points higher rpi which could have made all the difference
We're a lot more than 5-10 points higher RPI. More like 50. Minimum.
 

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I feel like the committee went “Conference Champion” and our schedule ultimately didn’t mean very much.
If that was the case, why didn’t ULL from the Sun Belt get to host? They were champions of an objectively stronger conference than the PAC 12. None of it makes sense. Arizona this year is easily the most undeserving host site in college baseball history.
 

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Take msm off the schedule, put houston in....getting swept. Does that really help?
Take out MSM, Alcorn State, and North Alabama, and insert schools along the lines of Northwestern State and Arkansas State, and that gets us into the teens.

You don't have to schedule good teams, you just can't schedule teams in the 275-300 range, and definitely not 5 games against them. Those tank your RPI even when you win.
 

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I’ve said all along the triangle and carolinas doesn’t matter.

out west is the only place geography matters.
Evidently it did matter, because Duke didn’t host with a Top 16 RPI. And they were more deserving than NCSU by most accounts.
 

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If that was the case, why didn’t ULL from the Sun Belt get to host? They were champions of an objectively stronger conference than the PAC 12. None of it makes sense. Arizona this year is easily the most undeserving host site in college baseball history.
Arizona played the toughest non conference schedule in the country. Won both regular season and tourney championship. Won 20 regular season conference games. They also won 18 quad 1-2 games.

I was shocked too. But they are far from the most undeserved host ever.
Evidently it did matter, because Duke didn’t host with a Top 16 RPI. And they were more deserving than NCSU by most accounts.
Nc state was a lock by everyone, duke never was. Clear nc state resume was clearly better than dukes by “most accounts” and the final account
 

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If that was the case, why didn’t ULL from the Sun Belt get to host? They were champions of an objectively stronger conference than the PAC 12. None of it makes sense. Arizona this year is easily the most undeserving host site in college baseball history.
Well, there was that year we hosted as a 3 seed back in the 80s. But yeah, since the NCAA went to performance based hosting in 2000, this is the biggest WTF.
 

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Well, there was that year we hosted as a 3 seed back in the 80s. But yeah, since the NCAA went to performance based hosting in 2000, this is the biggest WTF.
I was referring to the 64 team format only, should have made that more clear.
 
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I was referring to the 64 team format only, should have made that more clear.
I know. I just have bad memories of those cocky Cal Fullerton bastards kicking sand in our faces almost 40 years ago. Actually, looking it up we were the 2 seed and they were the 3. But they beat us twice and #1 A&M to win it.
 

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Arizona played the toughest non conference schedule in the country.
So what? They totally sucked against it….went 13-10. And their conference blows…..which means 65% of their overall schedule blows.

Won both regular season and tourney championship. Won 20 regular season conference games.
In a terrible league that has a lower conference RPI than the damn Sun Belt. So who cares?

They also won 18 quad 1-2 games.

That’s a fancy way of saying they won 15 Quad 2 games. Nobody gives a flying 17 about Quad 2 wins.

Nc state was a lock by everyone, duke never was. Clear nc state resume was clearly better than dukes by “most accounts” and the final account
Either way, they didn’t give 3 host sites to Raleigh-Durham, as everybody knew they wouldn’t. So the geography certainly mattered.

Evidently they decided they cared about Arizona winning the PAC tourney, but but not Duke winning the ACC tourney. Yet another puzzling decision. Shít show committee, and not just because we got hosed, because about 5-6 other teams did too.
 

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Arizona played the toughest non conference schedule in the country.
here’s how easy it is to schedule a tough OOC schedule. Their #1 OOC schedule weekends were vs Northeastern, at San Diego, a tournament vs Bama, TCU & Dallas Baptist and vs LA Tech. And they lost 5 of those games.
 

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If that was the case, why didn’t ULL from the Sun Belt get to host? They were champions of an objectively stronger conference than the PAC 12. None of it makes sense. Arizona this year is easily the most undeserving host site in college baseball history.
Yeah. The Pac12 is 6th in the RPI, and just as close to #8 as #5.

I think they’re the lowest RPI to ever host (at least since we went to seeding all 16). They basically got an auto bid.
 

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Lots more people should be pissrd than us. But very clear the 16th spot had flaws. Rewseding a team that won both regular and conference tournament isn’t that far fetched
I think ECU was more egregious than Arizona. If you’re in the 13th best league you better dominate it to host. They did not at all, at least the last few weeks.
 
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I think ECU was more egregious than Arizona. If you’re in the 13th best league you better dominate it to host. They did not at all, at least the last few weeks.
I agree. Arizonanis fine by me. The ecu selection should have been duke or Indy state
 

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So not as strictly by RPI as in the last few years.

1 Tennessee
2 Texas A&M
3 Kentucky
4 North Carolina
5 Arkansas
6 Georgia
7 Clemson
8 Florida State

9 Wake Forest
10 Indiana State
11 Oklahoma State
12 Virginia
13 UC Santa Barbara
14 Oklahoma
15 NC State

16 Duke
17 Dallas Baptist
18 Oregon State
19 San Diego
20 Vanderbilt
21 South Carolina
22 East Carolina
23 LSU
24 Alabama
25 Mississippi State
26 Southern Miss
27 UC Irvine
28 Nebraska
29 Louisiana Tech
30 Florida
31 Arizona
Does it work to MSU’s advantage in a potential Super Regional matchup by not being a 15-16 national seed?