How a New AD Can Succeed--The Baylor Model

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It's your choice if you want to believe him or not, but @nyctarheel23 had some interesting info in this thread:
http://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/th...en-brighter-with-a-cpl-of.54770/#post-1055939
"This is the most significant development that led to the news of today,.
AD choice was ingenious as we have someone who can represent us in the
forthcoming NCAA report, as well as raise money with any AD in the country,
with the exception of Jeremy Foley."

Read the story on how Ian McCaw, who was light on major football experience, and while working in various capacities in athletics at smaller universities, did not have a resume prior to Baylor that inspired confidence.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbe...reatest-organizational-turnarounds-in-sports/

If Pat Hobbs can succeed the way he did at Seton Hall Law School, he may well be able to do the same as AD of Rutgers. I like the hire. I know Pat Hobbs. He has the connections, the drive, the personality, the education and work ethic to get it done.

The parallels of Rutgers and Baylor:
"A program already mired in mediocrity was now found to have an endemic culture of cheating and a total disregard for the amateurism ideals that were at the very essence of why the department existed in the first place. With support almost non-existent from its own university community, and an outcast in the eyes of the public at large, the Baylor Bears were left to wilt into irrelevancy on the vine of their own self-induced exile."

“During the first few months following the scandal, morale had sunk to an all-time low in Waco,” recalls McCaw. “The department had lost all credibility with the university community, and many questioned whether we should even remain a major college athletics program. I knew that first thing we had to do was regain the trust of the students, professors, and alumni who were the very lifeblood of the university. If we could get them behind us, then the right decisions necessary to rebuild our reputation would become self-evident.”

Part of regaining that trust meant that McCaw and his leadership team had to systematically address the issues plaguing the department. This meant implementing a managerial strategy of both retrenchment and renewal. Retrenchment refers to actions focused on addressing the short-term – mitigating losses and stabilizing the organization to counter those processes that caused the poor performance in the first place. Renewal on the other hand focuses on the long-term – implementing practices designed to catalyze growth in the areas the organization has determined it can be most successful in.

Indeed, the department’s reflection and analysis identified a unique value proposition composed of five key elements that they could focus on in order to rebuild credibility and attract the coaches and talented student-athletes necessary to achieve its desired level of success. They included the fact that Baylor is:

  • A great academic institution and the oldest in the state of Texas;
  • A member of one of the top conferences in the nation, the Big 12;
  • Situated in arguably the most talent-rich states in the country to recruit;
 

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It's your choice if you want to believe him or not, but @nyctarheel23 had some interesting info in this thread:
http://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/th...en-brighter-with-a-cpl-of.54770/#post-1055939
"This is the most significant development that led to the news of today,.
AD choice was ingenious as we have someone who can represent us in the
forthcoming NCAA report, as well as raise money with any AD in the country,
with the exception of Jeremy Foley."

Read the story on how Ian McCaw, who was light on major football experience, and while working in various capacities in athletics at smaller universities, did not have a resume prior to Baylor that inspired confidence.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbe...reatest-organizational-turnarounds-in-sports/

If Pat Hobbs can succeed the way he did at Seton Hall Law School, he may well be able to do the same as AD of Rutgers. I like the hire. I know Pat Hobbs. He has the connections, the drive, the personality, the education and work ethic to get it done.

The parallels of Rutgers and Baylor:
"A program already mired in mediocrity was now found to have an endemic culture of cheating and a total disregard for the amateurism ideals that were at the very essence of why the department existed in the first place. With support almost non-existent from its own university community, and an outcast in the eyes of the public at large, the Baylor Bears were left to wilt into irrelevancy on the vine of their own self-induced exile."

“During the first few months following the scandal, morale had sunk to an all-time low in Waco,” recalls McCaw. “The department had lost all credibility with the university community, and many questioned whether we should even remain a major college athletics program. I knew that first thing we had to do was regain the trust of the students, professors, and alumni who were the very lifeblood of the university. If we could get them behind us, then the right decisions necessary to rebuild our reputation would become self-evident.”

Part of regaining that trust meant that McCaw and his leadership team had to systematically address the issues plaguing the department. This meant implementing a managerial strategy of both retrenchment and renewal. Retrenchment refers to actions focused on addressing the short-term – mitigating losses and stabilizing the organization to counter those processes that caused the poor performance in the first place. Renewal on the other hand focuses on the long-term – implementing practices designed to catalyze growth in the areas the organization has determined it can be most successful in.

Indeed, the department’s reflection and analysis identified a unique value proposition composed of five key elements that they could focus on in order to rebuild credibility and attract the coaches and talented student-athletes necessary to achieve its desired level of success. They included the fact that Baylor is:

  • A great academic institution and the oldest in the state of Texas;
  • A member of one of the top conferences in the nation, the Big 12;
  • Situated in arguably the most talent-rich states in the country to recruit;
Great post
 

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Boise State and TCU as well. I was thinking Oregon but we don't have Phil Knight as an alumni.
 

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Great post
That Fortune article is a must read for anyone who doubts a turnaround can happen. Will AD Hobbs make it happen? I don't know. But seeing what he did at Seton Hall Law and knowing him as a professor and Dean at Seton Hall, I think he has an excellent shot.
 

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Can we? Yes. Will we? Who knows? This is Rutgers after all.

And didn't Baylor's basketball program come back even after a member of the team murdered another? Talk about coming back from a low point.

Edit: Oops, just noticed the article mentions the murder right from the start.
 
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Boise State and TCU as well. I was thinking Oregon but we don't have Phil Knight as an alumni.

These parallels cannot be lost:
  • A great academic institution and the oldest in the state of Texas (New Jersey);
  • A member of one of the top conferences in the nation, the Big 12 (B1G);
  • Situated in arguably the most talent-rich states in the country to recruit
So many spend so much time lamenting about what is wrong with Rutgers, but we have a lot that is RIGHT, and we can go up from here. Go RU!!!
 
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I believe this University and its constituents are capable of great things, and that it is -- more than any other -- an institution in a position to be the standard bearer of a proud and successful New Jersey.

Upstream, Red Team.
 
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I believe this University and its constituents are capable of great things, and that it is -- more than any other -- an institution in a position to be the standard bearer of a proud and successful New Jersey.

Upstream, Red Team.
The pieces are in place. Hopefully, we get the football coach to do it.
 

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At first I questioned the hire because I wondered what did his background have to do with experience in athletics. But I've decided I'm going to just wait and see because just about everything covering the Hobbs has been extremely positive which I found odd. I'm hoping his connections reverses recent trends and has the RU brand growing quickly again. Great post btw Shift
 

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At first I questioned the hire because I wondered what did his background have to do with experience in athletics. But I've decided I'm going to just wait and see because just about everything covering the Hobbs has been extremely positive which I found odd. I'm hoping his connections reverses recent trends and has the RU brand growing quickly again. Great post btw Shift

This seems to be a growing trend, hiring someone with a legal or business background with fundraising experience in other areas.
 
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Just looking at his bio McCaw had more experience in athletics administration and was successful. Hiring from northeastern isn't a big deal or a deputy AD like JH. It's similar to hiring a mid major HC or coordinator in my mind. When we hired TP, Mack Rhoades wast my top choice and he was athletic director at Akron. Same thing. Coming from a lower school isn't a knock to me.

McCaw had been working in athletics administration since 1986 prior to taking over at Baylor in 2003. He was also an AD for 7 years prior to that. His time at Northeastern was successful too so I can't see the exact parallel to Hobbs whose time at SHU was only 2 years and his hires weren't good. Who knows maybe he is good but all you can do is project and it's hard to project that Hobbs can do for us what McCaw did for Baylor given their backgrounds prior to their current jobs.

From his bio.

Prior to Baylor, McCaw spent the 2002-03 year as director of athletics at the University of Massachusetts. At UMass, he was responsible for a 23-sport program and helped develop and implement a five-year strategic plan and secure funding for basketball locker room renovations.

McCaw previously served as director of intercollegiate athletics and campus recreation at Northeastern University from 1997-2002. During his five years at Northeastern, Husky student-athletes thrived in the classroom, gave back to the community, and in his final year (2001-02) captured a school-record six America East Conference championships and had five teams finish among the nation's top 20.

McCaw went to Northeastern from Tulane University, where he served as senior associate athletic director for development and associate athletic director for external affairs from 1992-1997, being named Tulane's co-interim director of athletics in 1996. Prior to his years at Tulane, McCaw worked in a variety of athletic administrative posts at the University of Maine from 1986 to 1992 including sports information, marketing and external affairs. Recognized as a national leader in intercollegiate athletics, McCaw served as chair of the NCAA Recruiting and Personnel Issues Cabinet. He is a member of the Big 12 television and game management and officiating committees. He previously served on the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics Executive Committee, and currently is on the Division I-A Athletics Director Association Board of Trustees.
 

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Hopefully, Hobbs will be more like McCaw and less like Dave Brandon. Brandon was the AD at Michigan, coming from his CEO position at Domino's (I believe) He pretty much alienated everyone, from the students to alums with his policies.
 
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Hopefully, Hobbs will be more like McCaw and less like Dave Brandon. Brandon was the AD at Michigan, coming from his CEO position at Domino's (I believe) He pretty much alienated everyone, from the students to alums with his policies.
Yes and that was an athletic department that was "mature." People bring up ADs and candidates that don't have experience at other athletic departments but to me there's a difference between taking over a "mature" athletic department and one that needs to be built up from the bottom up and has a long way to go.

When you're still in the building and growing stage to me you need someone with experience in athletics administration who knows what they're doing. You mention Alvarez but Pat Richter is the guy who built up Wisconsin and hired Alvarez and Bo Ryan. Alvarez took over after. So to me it's a little bit of apples and oranges to compare. If we ever reach that stage sure fine you can hire a Swarbrick, a Brandon an Alvarez type but we're not close to being there yet so I remain skeptical.
 

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Yes and that was an athletic department that was "mature." People bring up ADs and candidates that don't have experience at other athletic departments but to me there's a difference between taking over a "mature" athletic department and one that needs to be built up from the bottom up and has a long way to go.

When you're still in the building and growing stage to me you need someone with experience in athletics administration who knows what they're doing. You mention Alvarez but Pat Richter is the guy who built up Wisconsin and hired Alvarez and Bo Ryan. Alvarez took over after. So to me it's a little bit of apples and oranges to compare. If we ever reach that stage sure fine you can hire a Swarbrick, a Brandon an Alvarez type but we're not close to being there yet so I remain skeptical.
I get what you are saying, and there is no good direct comparison on Patrick Hobbs. I still think McCaw was a stretch coming from Northeastern and going to a P5 school like Baylor, but it was a major rebuilding project. Based on my interactions and experience with Hobbs, I think he is 100% up to the task (this is not a "take it to the bank" prediction, so don't skewer me later).

A good parallel to Hobbs is the AD of Notre Dame. From Wikipedia "Swarbrick was born March 19, 1954 in Yonkers, New York, the son of John Brian and Mary Catharine (née Comey) Swarbrick.[5] He earned an undergraduate degree (magna *** laude) in economics from Notre Dame in 1976 and a law degree from Stanford in 1980.[5] He practiced law for 28 years and was a partner in the law firm of Baker & Daniels immediately prior to accepting his position at Notre Dame.[1][6] From 1992 until 2001, he also served as chairman of the Indiana Sports Corp., during which time he helped convince the NCAA to relocate its headquarters to Indianapolis.[6]"

But someone pointed out the Notre Dame gig is a different animal. What does the AD have to do all day but count the millions in donations that come in each week?

We shall see. But as noted above, I am 100% sold on Hobbs.
 
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The pieces are in place. Hopefully, we get the football coach to do it.
We're in dire need of a more Rutgers-focused legislature; specifically, a democratic party machine that stops cannibalizing higher ed in order to build a resource-sucking graft operation in Glassboro. Among other things ...
 

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There are plenty of programs that Rutgers can emulate to become a respextend program: Baylor, Northwestern, Stanford, TCU, etc. The question is will the admin and fans willing to move ahead with this. We shall see in the next few months.
 
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I get what you are saying, and there is no good direct comparison on Patrick Hobbs. I still think McCaw was a stretch coming from Northeastern and going to a P5 school like Baylor, but it was a major rebuilding project. Based on my interactions and experience with Hobbs, I think he is 100% up to the task (this is not a "take it to the bank" prediction, so don't skewer me later).

A good parallel to Hobbs is the AD of Notre Dame. From Wikipedia "Swarbrick was born March 19, 1954 in Yonkers, New York, the son of John Brian and Mary Catharine (née Comey) Swarbrick.[5] He earned an undergraduate degree (magna *** laude) in economics from Notre Dame in 1976 and a law degree from Stanford in 1980.[5] He practiced law for 28 years and was a partner in the law firm of Baker & Daniels immediately prior to accepting his position at Notre Dame.[1][6] From 1992 until 2001, he also served as chairman of the Indiana Sports Corp., during which time he helped convince the NCAA to relocate its headquarters to Indianapolis.[6]"

But someone pointed out the Notre Dame gig is a different animal. What does the AD have to do all day but count the millions in donations that come in each week?

We shall see. But as noted above, I am 100% sold on Hobbs.
Hey everyone is entitled to their opinion, I say that all the time. I'm not gonna skewer anyone. Who the hell am I, I can be wrong too. Any opinion is fine just give me the logical line of reasoning to get there and I'm good and if I can't draw a counterpoint then I'm even willing to change my opinion, I'm not stubborn and always have open ears. I just don't see it right now.

Swarbrick is running a "mature" athletic department like I said about Alvarez and others so to me while he may have the same background it's sort of apples and oranges.

You know what would have been good is if we did what I saw Fresno do with Thomas Boeh our top candidate last time before he withdrew. He got reassigned to another part of the AD because he was polarizing. Sound familiar. I don't know if JH would have accepted that but I think that would have been a good move.

From what I see an athletic director that is half Hobbs and half JH would be the dream candidate. They supplement what the other is lacking. Obviously we can't have that so reassigning JH might have been a good move, maybe back to the #2 spot like at Louisville. That's not going to happen obviously so my hope now would be Hobbs hires a deputy AD who can be everything JH was to us and then I'll have hope and change my tune.
 

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Hey everyone is entitled to their opinion, I say that all the time. I'm not gonna skewer anyone. Who the hell am I, I can be wrong too. Any opinion is fine just give me the logical line of reasoning to get there and I'm good and if I can't draw a counterpoint then I'm even willing to change my opinion, I'm not stubborn and always have open ears. I just don't see it right now.

Swarbrick is running a "mature" athletic department like I said about Alvarez and others so to me while he may have the same background it's sort of apples and oranges.

You know what would have been good is if we did what I saw Fresno do with Thomas Boeh our top candidate last time before he withdrew. He got reassigned to another part of the AD because he was polarizing. Sound familiar. I don't know if JH would have accepted that but I think that would have been a good move.

From what I see an athletic director that is half Hobbs and half JH would be the dream candidate. They supplement what the other is lacking. Obviously we can't have that so reassigning JH might have been a good move, maybe back to the #2 spot like at Louisville. That's not going to happen obviously so my hope now would be Hobbs hires a deputy AD who can be everything JH was to us and then I'll have hope and change my tune.

Keeping Sarah B. and Geoff Brown would be a good start, among others.
 
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Keeping Sarah B. and Geoff Brown would be a good start, among others.
Yea that's part of it but they're specific functions of the athletic department. But putting it all together and the running of it and the what too look for in coaches etc.. is what I'm talking about. Hire a good deputy AD who has that background and I'll get closer to being sold. This hire of the football coach can bring me around depending on who it is. More of the old guard and then I'd be pushed farther away. It's perfect too because if you have that deputy AD who has the athletics administration background, while Hobbs is here he can teach the ropes of NJ politics/media to that person and maybe that person can takeover down the line. Sort of create a virtuous cycle.

BTW just one other note comparing JH to her predecessors and what I mean by experience in athletics administration and the fact that we aren't "mature" and still have a lot of building to do. It's been said that the guys before JH didn't know what they didn't know and she was putting things in place that were never thought of before. It's logical if you've never worked in an AD how the heck would you know what needs to be done or not. This is my point about the experience of working in athletics administration, specifically a successful AD.

As of now none of that seems to be on the table and a new hire hasn't been made yet so I'll withhold judgement but lean towards the skeptical.