How are we going to finish?

[AzzurriDawg4]

Rosebowl is convinced Neal is going to end up elsewhere. That sucks. Sanders is not looking good at al l - I am taking him off my list. Thompson, who knows. Brunetti, who knows. Robinson, who knows. Humphrey, who knows. Damn that is a lot of question marks. I honestly can't remember having this many question marks this close to signing day in a long time.

We have 22 now and could drop to 21 with the loss of Neal. Best odds are Robinson, Humphrey, Day, Eatmon. That gets us to 25/26. I honestly don't know where we go after that if Thompson does not sign. Best case scenario is Brunetti/Thompson/Robinson/Humphrey/Eatmon/Day. Thoughts? Here is a quick list of Commits/Targets. It will be interesting to see who we bring in next weekend as contingency plans.

QB
Dylan Favre 5'10/185 Bay St. Louis ** [MSU]
Barry Brunetti 6'0/200 Memphis, TN ***[WVU]

RB
Rajion Neal 5'11/201/4.49 Tyrone, GA *** [MSU]
Vick Ballard 6'0/205 Gulf Coast JUCO *** [MSU]
Nick Griffin 5'11/195 Perry Central *** [MSU]

WR
Malcolm Johnson 6'2/205 Tuscaloosa, AL ** [MSU]
Robert Johnson 6'0/200/4.52 Oak Grove *** [MSU]
Maudrecas Humphrey 6'2/185 Hoover, AL ***

OL
Blaine Clausell 6'6/295 Mobile, AL ** [MSU]
Jeff Howie 6'4/330 ICC JUCO * [MSU]
Archie Muniz 6'6/260 ** Houston, TX [MSU]
Damien Robinson 6'8/330 Olive Branch ****
Dillon Day 6'4/270/4.9 ** West Monroe, LA
Quinterrius Eatmon 6'6/335 *** Prichard, AL

DL
Kaleb Eulls 6'4/250/4.7 Yazoo County **** [MSU]
Curtis Virges 6'3/275 West Point *** [MSU]
James Carmon 6'7/370 Gulf Coast JUCO ****[MSU]
Carlos Thompson 6'5/220/4.6 Hollandale ****
Tim Jackson 6'4/215/4.7 St. Pete, FL ***

LB
Cordell Giles 6'4/218 Ray Brooks *** [MSU]
Ferlando Bohanna 6'0/235/4.55 Memphis, TN *** [MSU]
Corvell Harrison 6'3/220 NE Jones HS * [MSU]
Chris Hughes 6'0/209/4.37 Mobile, AL *** [MSU]

CB
Jameon Lewis 5'8/170 Tylertown ** [MSU]
Jamerson Love 5'10/175 Aberdeen ** [MSU]
Jay Hughes 5'10/180 Oak Grove ***[MSU]

S
Brandon Hill 6'2/202/4.6 West Lowndes ** [MSU]

Ath
Matthew Wells 6'2/202/4.5 Lawrence County **** [MSU]
Michael Carr 6'1/205 West Point ***[MSU]

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

Rosebowl is convinced Neal is going to end up elsewhere. That sucks. Sanders is not looking good at al l - I am taking him off my list. Thompson, who knows. Brunetti, who knows. Robinson, who knows. Humphrey, who knows. Damn that is a lot of question marks. I honestly can't remember having this many question marks this close to signing day in a long time.

We have 22 now and could drop to 21 with the loss of Neal. Best odds are Robinson, Humphrey, Day, Eatmon. That gets us to 25/26. I honestly don't know where we go after that if Thompson does not sign. Best case scenario is Brunetti/Thompson/Robinson/Humphrey/Eatmon/Day. Thoughts? Here is a quick list of Commits/Targets. It will be interesting to see who we bring in next weekend as contingency plans.

QB
Dylan Favre 5'10/185 Bay St. Louis ** [MSU]
Barry Brunetti 6'0/200 Memphis, TN ***[WVU]

RB
Rajion Neal 5'11/201/4.49 Tyrone, GA *** [MSU]
Vick Ballard 6'0/205 Gulf Coast JUCO *** [MSU]
Nick Griffin 5'11/195 Perry Central *** [MSU]

WR
Malcolm Johnson 6'2/205 Tuscaloosa, AL ** [MSU]
Robert Johnson 6'0/200/4.52 Oak Grove *** [MSU]
Maudrecas Humphrey 6'2/185 Hoover, AL ***

OL
Blaine Clausell 6'6/295 Mobile, AL ** [MSU]
Jeff Howie 6'4/330 ICC JUCO * [MSU]
Archie Muniz 6'6/260 ** Houston, TX [MSU]
Damien Robinson 6'8/330 Olive Branch ****
Dillon Day 6'4/270/4.9 ** West Monroe, LA
Quinterrius Eatmon 6'6/335 *** Prichard, AL

DL
Kaleb Eulls 6'4/250/4.7 Yazoo County **** [MSU]
Curtis Virges 6'3/275 West Point *** [MSU]
James Carmon 6'7/370 Gulf Coast JUCO ****[MSU]
Carlos Thompson 6'5/220/4.6 Hollandale ****
Tim Jackson 6'4/215/4.7 St. Pete, FL ***

LB
Cordell Giles 6'4/218 Ray Brooks *** [MSU]
Ferlando Bohanna 6'0/235/4.55 Memphis, TN *** [MSU]
Corvell Harrison 6'3/220 NE Jones HS * [MSU]
Chris Hughes 6'0/209/4.37 Mobile, AL *** [MSU]

CB
Jameon Lewis 5'8/170 Tylertown ** [MSU]
Jamerson Love 5'10/175 Aberdeen ** [MSU]
Jay Hughes 5'10/180 Oak Grove ***[MSU]

S
Brandon Hill 6'2/202/4.6 West Lowndes ** [MSU]

Ath
Matthew Wells 6'2/202/4.5 Lawrence County **** [MSU]
Michael Carr 6'1/205 West Point ***[MSU]

 

[bluelightstar]

I heard Neal was going nowhere.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

Thompson/Eatmon?Sanders looking like losses too. That is rough.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

Steve's sticking to his guns.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

And he is giving the flock all the manufactured hope they can eat with Sanders.

 

[Shmuley]

1. It's ten times better than any class crxxms ever signed; and
2. We now have coaches who can take marginal talent and do something with it.

Other than that, well ....

 

[8dog]

and its something I've always believed.

its not like steve is reading body language or guessing. he and other guys are relying on people they trust, including family members. And as steve said, in the recruiting process, people don't tell everyone the truth.

 

[randystewart]

like we would have liked. At least we are not fighting UAB and Troy for recruits. It is not as hard for me to stomach when we lose out on someone to another SEC school. I am not going to give up yet, because Mullen is actually working his *** off recruiting. I will guarantee you that Mullen has logged more recruiting time so far this year (2010) than Croom did in any full year. I think he has done a good job with what he has to sell (one winning season in the past decade). It sucks that we are losing some guys, but remember that those are guys who would not have even visited MSU 2 years ago.

 

[DowntownDawg]

Nt

 

[thunderclap]

Neal is solid. Mullen also has remaining in-homes with Neal and Thompson.

 

[22yardpunt]

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I will be surprised if we hang onto Neal ... just a feeling, much more UT presence here in Atlanta.

I think we'll get Thompson, supposed to announce tomorrow, or sometime this week??

Sanders is a total crapshoot. I think he's scheduled for FSU this weekend.

I don't think we'll get Brunetti. I just don't MSU turns him on enough .. I read a scout interview of his earlier, from his visit to Louisville this wknd.An exerpt said "Louisville is going to run the spread, just like Florida, they're going to install the same spread that Florida. I think I'd fit perfectly into their system" ............... hey, uh, Barry ... that "spread" is the same 17 offense that Dan Mullen runs. In fact, ours will be better than theirs, b/c Dan 17 Mullen installed the damned thing.

 

[AzzurriDawg4]

And there is no doubt that is the situation. It is funny that people ask guys like Steve to make predictions and give percentages, then get mad when they don't hit the bullseye.

I usually rely on direct quotes from Players, I guess that is not always reliable. Sanders, based on HIS words, definitely sounds like an Ole Miss lean. I guess we will just have to wait and see. Carlos Thompson, Sr., acts like they visited the Smithsonian or the Louvre this weekend, but other than the great detail in which he described the visit, that interview just sounds like typical post-visit warm fuzzies.

 

[38843dawg]

some time today/tonight, and that Thompson will announce his decision possibly later tonight or tomorrow. </p>

 

[patdog]

Rivals currently has us with 5 4-stars and 15 3-stars committed (and 1 of the 3-stars was recently demoted from 4-stars). With good coaching, you can win games with a class like that.

 

[8dog]

he closes the whole post saying he still thinks Thompson will be a dog.

I think Sanders and Thompson will go to ole miss, but the whole Steve/yancy death match that will be decided by these guys is ridiculous.

And another thing, b/c these guys are still undecided and looking at OM/State, they have become Jerry Rice and Demarcus Ware. We have made them way bigger thant they are.

 

[RebelBruiser]

he closes the whole post saying he still thinks Thompson will be a dog.

I think Sanders and Thompson will go to ole miss, but the whole Steve/yancy death match that will be decided by these guys is ridiculous.

And another thing, b/c these guys are still undecided and looking at OM/State, they have become Jerry Rice and Demarcus Ware. We have made them way bigger thant they are.

Bingo, because recruiting is as big as the games to some, and a guy like Thompson who is on the fence becomes another Egg Bowl to some. Get ready. I think it's going to be nasty from the losing side, whichever it is. Sanders, not so much, unless he signs with State, because most stories have Sanders leaning to Ole Miss.

 

[Frances Drebin]

And another thing, b/c these guys are still undecided and looking at OM/State, they have become Jerry Rice and Demarcus Ware. We have made them way bigger thant they are.

...this is absolutely the truth, and you'd think more people would realize it. Remember the Robert Elliot saga. It's not like we got DeAngelo Williams or something.

 

[maroonmania]

First, a decade of losing football at MSU. Mullen leading us to a winning season or two is the only thing that will correct that and, of course, an easier schedule from what we had this year would aid in that result. Second, Mullen himself had absolutely NO connections or recruiting relationships with folks in the area before coming here. Now some of the leftover Croom staff has helped with that and we have actually done fairly well in state but I don't think Florida recruits much in AL, TN and LA which are the out-of-state areas MSU recruits from most. GA is about the only area that MSU does recruit that overlapped with what Mullen likely recruited at FL. I also think the Meyer stuff that came up probably slowed our momentum in recruiting a little as well.

However, all that being said, even with just what we have, I think this class is still better than any of Croom's except for last year (which Croom gets the majority of credit for). Only areas of slight disappointment are QB, OL and maybe a true top-notch CB. Just thought with Mullen's background and credentials that we would get one fairly highly rated QB to jump on. Doesn't help my feelings that we are losing ones we targeted to people like Vandy. On OL we still seem to be struggling though I was certainly glad to pick up Muniz. We really need Robinson and one of Eatmon/Day to finish out though.

 

[RebelShark]

will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks

State gets Brunetti and Robinson
OM gets Sanders and Thompson

 

[maroonmania]

but Brunetti and Robinson will do much more to plug our recruiting holes this year than Sanders and Thompson though I would certainly like to have any of them.

 

[jacksonreb1]

the palmer kid (lb, david?) back in the day that almost got ole miss and usm fans in fistfights about...never amounted to anything. LOL

 

[gravedigger]

He goes to Ole Miss, Steve left himself an out.

He goes to State and Yancy better have one ready.

 

[RebelBruiser]

He goes to Ole Miss, Steve left himself an out.

He goes to State and Yancy better have one ready.

Why? Do they have to make up stuff about why they were right to keep their credibility?

I'm sure both of them will have made up stories ready if they aren't right on Thompson. In reality, they are both getting information from their sources saying their school is the leader or is the choice. One of them is getting bad information from a source, or they are getting lied to. It's that simple.

 

[fwsultan]

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[gravedigger]

statements than Steve. Not that either is more likely to be right.

You can tell from the way people respond to their tidbits and bones.

I know of few who read anything Steve puts out as 'take it to the bank' type of confidence. Heck, I dont know of a recruit on our list that is a take it to the bank type of kid.

But Yancy always ups the ante a bit this time of year and it puts him in a bit of a position when the ones, and its not all that many, that he does like the Thompson kid dont pan out.

Even Steve has said that Robert Elliot spoke on record as saying he was 'red and blue' AFTER already committing to MSU coaches on a visit. Why? Just wanted people off his back. Namely wanted the phone calls to stop.

I've got my own opinion about Yancy's credibilty vs Steve. But there is a difference inthe way they present their info and Yancy's, seems to get him in more trouble with his own subscibers than Steve's does.

 

[RebelBruiser]

statements than Steve. Not that either is more likely to be right.

You can tell from the way people respond to their tidbits and bones.

I know of few who read anything Steve puts out as 'take it to the bank' type of confidence. Heck, I dont know of a recruit on our list that is a take it to the bank type of kid.

But Yancy always ups the ante a bit this time of year and it puts him in a bit of a position when the ones, and its not all that many, that he does like the Thompson kid dont pan out.

Even Steve has said that Robert Elliot spoke on record as saying he was 'red and blue' AFTER already committing to MSU coaches on a visit. Why? Just wanted people off his back. Namely wanted the phone calls to stop.

I've got my own opinion about Yancy's credibilty vs Steve. But there is a difference inthe way they present their info and Yancy's, seems to get him in more trouble with his own subscibers than Steve's does.

I agree with that part. Yancy's biggest problem is that he can't write. His next biggest problem is that he likes to project too much based on things he's hearing, rather than just reporting what he's hearing or reporting how his sources feel. A good example is his Robert Johnson story where he projects that Johnson might eventually be unhappy and look to transfer due to family pressure pushing him to MSU. It's one thing if he has a source saying that Johnson wanted to visit, but it was quashed. It's another to make a projection about 2-3 years down the line based on some made up assumption.

That's the BS you have to wade through with Yancy, but if you can cut through it, you'll find the same stuff you find with Robertson, projections of where guys will go based on what they hear from sources. Sometimes those sources are right. Sometimes they are wrong. If you cut Yancy's stuff back purely to what the recruits and sources are telling him, that information is no worse than Robertson's, and it goes recruit to recruit on who has the best sources.

 

[patdog]

A good example is his Robert Johnson story where he projects that Johnson might eventually be unhappy and look to transfer due to family pressure pushing him to MSU. It's one thing if he has a source saying that Johnson wanted to visit, but it was quashed. It's another to make a projection about 2-3 years down the line based on some made up assumption.

That's the BS you have to wade through with Yancy, but if you can cut through it, you'll find the same stuff you find with Robertson, projections of where guys will go based on what they hear from sources. Sometimes those sources are right. Sometimes they are wrong. If you cut Yancy's stuff back purely to what the recruits and sources are telling him, that information is no worse than Robertson's, and it goes recruit to recruit on who has the best sources.

of the fact that Yancy is prone to just make **** up to say what his audience wants to hear.

 

[RebelBruiser]

A good example is his Robert Johnson story where he projects that Johnson might eventually be unhappy and look to transfer due to family pressure pushing him to MSU. It's one thing if he has a source saying that Johnson wanted to visit, but it was quashed. It's another to make a projection about 2-3 years down the line based on some made up assumption.

That's the BS you have to wade through with Yancy, but if you can cut through it, you'll find the same stuff you find with Robertson, projections of where guys will go based on what they hear from sources. Sometimes those sources are right. Sometimes they are wrong. If you cut Yancy's stuff back purely to what the recruits and sources are telling him, that information is no worse than Robertson's, and it goes recruit to recruit on who has the best sources.

of the fact that Yancy is prone to just make **** up to say what his audience wants to hear.

That's true, but as I said, you can pretty well tell when that's the case. When it comes to reporting what he's hearing from sources, I don't think he makes that stuff up very often. When he starts projecting why certain things are happening or why a player chose this team or that, that's when it usually turns to BS.

You need to get a good grasp for Yancy-speak before you go try to take in his stuff.

 

[BCash]

statements than Steve. Not that either is more likely to be right.

You can tell from the way people respond to their tidbits and bones.

I know of few who read anything Steve puts out as 'take it to the bank' type of confidence. Heck, I dont know of a recruit on our list that is a take it to the bank type of kid.

But Yancy always ups the ante a bit this time of year and it puts him in a bit of a position when the ones, and its not all that many, that he does like the Thompson kid dont pan out.

Even Steve has said that Robert Elliot spoke on record as saying he was 'red and blue' AFTER already committing to MSU coaches on a visit. Why? Just wanted people off his back. Namely wanted the phone calls to stop.

I've got my own opinion about Yancy's credibilty vs Steve. But there is a difference inthe way they present their info and Yancy's, seems to get him in more trouble with his own subscibers than Steve's does.

I agree with that part. Yancy's biggest problem is that he can't write. His next biggest problem is that he likes to project too much based on things he's hearing, rather than just reporting what he's hearing or reporting how his sources feel. A good example is his Robert Johnson story where he projects that Johnson might eventually be unhappy and look to transfer due to family pressure pushing him to MSU. It's one thing if he has a source saying that Johnson wanted to visit, but it was quashed. It's another to make a projection about 2-3 years down the line based on some made up assumption.

That's the BS you have to wade through with Yancy, but if you can cut through it, you'll find the same stuff you find with Robertson, projections of where guys will go based on what they hear from sources. Sometimes those sources are right. Sometimes they are wrong. If you cut Yancy's stuff back purely to what the recruits and sources are telling him, that information is no worse than Robertson's, and it goes recruit to recruit on who has the best sources.

Any idiot can repeat what recruits/sources are saying. What makes him terible is that you DO have to cut through a bunch of ********.

 

[Baron Von Raschke]

more. I would choose Robinson and Eatmon, if I could pick 2 more. Maybe Thompson and Robinson...one of those.

 

[gravedigger]

the embellishment and are even willing to forget the misleading stuff if he's right most of the time or just right on the most important recruits. Think about it. There really are only a couple each year that there are many questions about head to head with your rival. The rest are with other colleges that really dont get anyone in trouble for throwing in an embellisment or two.

Ours that would fall into that category is Brunetti. All kinds of stories about how his family is influencing him. Who really knows if they are? But State fans and WVU fans couldnt give a crap what each other think or what their recruiting gurus think.

But the same battle between MSU and UM would create a firestorm in the media. YEa, we got upset about Newton, but just because we havent seen a proven qb step foot on campus...maybe ever. Even rarer is going down to the wire with an Oklahoma and Auburn.

I'm saying that Yancy really only gets under the skin of opposing fans and umfans like equapo who tire of trying to figure out what is crap opinion and what is insider, good value info. Steve is no saint nor is he any more of an insider than Yancy. But I will defend him in one respect since the infamous rosebowl prediction: he's at least attempted to keep his most insane paying customers from reading too much into what he puts out and identify when he's just throwing his own opinion and when he's trying to really tell the inside story. Yancy just doesnt. Well, at least not what gets filtered down to me. I dont read all he says and he may very well more accurate than Steve overall. But whenyancy ***** the bed he seems tohop right up and throw it against the wall.

Seems to me, Yancy gets told by the insiders at the athletic department what they want elaborated on. But I'll bet his style keeps them from telling himmuch more.