How did Singleton make a 24 on ACT??

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dawgstudent

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have a 2.15 GPA and score a 21 on the ACT in high school.

I don't care if Singleton scored a 24 or not - I am just arguing the point regardless of who the player is.
 

seshomoru

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OMlawdog

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a lot. You can take basically 4 years off and make up for it in 3 hours.

Just depends if you actually take the prep courses seriously. I only knew one guy at my high school that had legit D-I offers and he was a great guy, who didn't care about school until he found out that he wouldn't be eligible. I can't remember if he scored a 22 or 23, but the guy wasn't stupid just a guy that enjoyed sports, drinking beer and chasing girls, and just didn't pay attention to anything academically related. He almost screwed up and didn't graduate because he didn't do a History paper, and the teacher was going to fail him, but he begged him for a D and he got it.
 

AlCoDog

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From a few highschool coaches I talked to after the MS/AL all-star game, he is a gigantic *****. Fast as ****, but scared to death to get hit. I can't wait for Dee Arrington to beat the **** out of him for the next 4 years.

I always pull for their guys to get in. I would much rather see them fail on the field.
 

missouridawg

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the valedictorian reference I made in my first post was simply to show you that I'm capable of performing intellectually. It doesn't mean I'm smarter than you and it definitely doesn't mean you should compare me and Singleton. It was simply stated to show that I wasn't a complete retard and that I was capable of suceeding in an academic environment.

The real key to this whole Singleton thing is the difference in the two scores. If he went from a 22 to a 24, then nobody would even be blinking. Butif he went from a 14 to 24, then that should raise a red flag.
 

dawgstudent

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and was in the 33rd percentile of ACT scores in your graduating class? Or was your GPA in the bottom 3rd?
 

dawgstudent

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bad GPA's but good ACT scores. Never have I have seen an ACT score such as 29 and being in the bottom 3rd. Where did you go? MUS?
 

dawgstudent

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and some of my wife's cousins go there so I guessed.

That stat is amazing to me. A 29 puts you in the bottom 3rd of ACT scores for a class.
 

missouridawg

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Dropouts are an epidemic in my county in Missouri. I started high school with about 170 classmates. Graduated with 117.

While the education level at my county wide high school isn't on par with MUS, it isn't bad either. I was fortunate enough to take 19 hours worth of college credit in high school... so I wasn't really loaded down with P.E. type courses.
 

Felonious Junk

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3 got 36s and 4 got 35s. Always thought it was funny that ACT made the 36s retake the test. Evidently that's one of their rules.
 

Fresno Bob

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....or any recent MUS class for that matter. I know St. Mary's had 10 last year which was pretty darn amazing, I thought, but seems like MUS tops that. I don't think most people have a clue just how rigorous MUS is academically. Most think it's just arrogance or people being provincial about their academics.

I have no personal connection to MUS, either. Kids in another private school in the area that has done nicely...but nothing like MUS.
 
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I'm not saying Tobias is the next Deion Sanders, but it's not THAT uncommon to have receivers that don't like getting hit.
 

coach66

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quick and yes there is a difference. He has good hands as well and is a good all around athelete. What I also noticed was he could usually be shut down if emphasis was placed upon him by the best db from the other team provided that other team had a decent db which was not often the case. Never saw him run over anybody that I can remember nor fight for extra yards once contact was made. He also gets very frustrated once he is shut down and usually goes downhill from there. With the coaching he will recieve at the next level he might turn out to be pretty good and I would notreally say he was a "*****", just my view.
 

Todd4State

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I think he was hurt last year by MC not having a very good QB and by Bobby Hall not finding ways to get the ball in his hands other than the wildcat and an occasionally poorly thrown screen pass. And every single time he was in the wildcat, he would just go straight ahead and plunge into the line every single time. Hall could have found more ways to get him the ball like by moving him around, handing the ball off to him on reverses, maybe use him on a WR option, etc. Singleton was much better when Peyton Johnson was the QB because Peyton could throw the ball downfield some and he was a pretty solid high school QB. I hate to bust on a high school kid, but Rowell is just not a very good player. He makes poor throws and he takes too long to make decisions on the option, which usually causes the play to be disrupted.

I do agree with everything that you said about him though- I saw it myself too. He does get frustrated, and I was surprised that he wasn't throw out of the Clinton game along with Giles.

As far as college, Singleton would be a much better fit for Dan's offense. Dan would find ways to get him the ball, and we're going to have good QB's as long as Dan is around. Basically, he would be used like Bumphis with the exception of being used in the wildcat. His speed would be really tough for a LB or safety to try to cover, but Tobias against a CB- he's going to be kind of pedestrian in a pro style offense. Tobias would have to deal with Balis and Dan- and I'm not sure how that would go.
 

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it only provides you with a score on how a particular person takes a particular standardized test. I knew asshats who barely passed highschool, were great standardized test takers and made 32-33 (on their first try). I graduated with a 3.98 and scored a 29 (senior year, made a 27 junior year). Took every advanced class and hardly ever missed a question on a test because I retained information. Wasn't the best standardized test taker. Also, made a 28 on MCAT. Didn't get into medical school because of gender and their "Quota".

<span style="font-weight: bold;">A 24 on ACT is better than 75% of every other person who took the ACT in 2011. If the previously stated ACT score of 14 is true, TS isn't the greatest test taker and there is no way in hell he suddenly jumped up to a 24, after once being considered a person who might not qualify. Either way, every person knew he's qualify once he got that heppin. ****, Powe couldn't even spell his last name but got cleared. It happens everywhere but a jump in a score like that, if true, is for certain to raise some red flags.</span>
 

RougeDawg

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If that were case I'd have made a 31... Scored real high in two one time, and the opposite two the next time. Stuck with a 29.
 

maroonmania

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to play unless he takes the ACT again and gets a qualifying score again. There is a certain level above which you jump in score from one test to the next that automatically gets flagged. And that jump is definitely less than 10 points. In fact, last year we thought we had a certain baseball signee that had gotten eligible that ended up with too high a jump on his ACT and he was not cleared. He is in JUCO now.
 

RougeDawg

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This is pretty stupid and provides another example of the American public being shown that you don't have to be successful on a single try at something. You don't always get second, third, fourth, etc. attempts at everything in life. Now you can take it a few times and we'll just take the best from each attempt and forget about the other times you 17ed up.

So you can make a 28 on one section, and 12's on the rest and then make a high score on the subsequent sections and compile a decent score? Try that in the real world. Oh, I made my revenue plan in this section this year, but missed it in my other 6. You better as 17, make plan in at least 50% of the areas or you'll be in that soup line. Great message we are sending, which is why the current situation in this country doesnt surprise me. We don't show the importance of finishing anything.
 

FlabLoser

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dawgstudent said:
have a 2.15 GPA and score a 21 on the ACT in high school.

I don't care if Singleton scored a 24 or not - I am just arguing the point regardless of who the player is.
FlabLoser had a 90.1 average through all 4 years of high school, and a 25 on the ACT. FlabLoser was a couple points short of perfect in the math & science portions and sucked balls in the rest of it. BTW, FlabLoser later got BSEE and MSEE degrees from MSU.
 

ckDOG

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The wife and I both made 32's. I'm claiming a 33 now. I'm now officially smarter.

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boomboommsu

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I made a 34, and put forth zero effort at a very tough high school, and i was easily pullingan Aaverage.

on the flip side, at plenty of crummy high schools in MS, the valedictorians don't even hit 20.

i think you'd have to be missing tests and getting 0's on them to be smart enough to get in the 30s and barely pass. but i have known people like that. but that doesn't fit with your point, that it's differences in the tests giving the disparate results.
 

TheStateUofMS

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If Tobias Singleton would have signed with State and gotten a 24 we would be happy and congratulating the young kid for working hard and getting into school. That said, he had to cheat to get that score.****<div>
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</div><div>Also, I'm pretty sure if there is a large jump in ACT scores, he will be asked to take it again.</div>
 

OMlawdog

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By posters on this site is 30. At least from the people that posted in this thread.

Im sure each was drunk as **** while taking it too.</p>
 
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