How do we keep allowing this to happen?
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I saw the local news clip. They claimed they were feeding 1000s of people a day. Turns out it was less than 50.
Can You imagine if we eliminate the fraud and corruption, what it will do to our economy.
Lots of people don’t want that though!!
Not only do we allow it to happen. In Florida we elect the fraudster to Governor and then Senator
Rick Scott. And the board kicked him out with 9 million cash and 350 million in shares for running the medicare scam. Better than being a crappy coach!
In 2000, during a deposition for a civil suit unrelated to the fraud investigation, Scott pleaded the Fifth Amendment 75 times.[47] In settlements reached in 2000 and 2002, Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in what was at the time the largest health care fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. It also admitted to fraudulently billing Medicare and other health programs by inflating the seriousness of diagnoses and to giving doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. It filed false cost reports, fraudulently billed Medicare for home health care workers, and paid kickbacks in the sale of home health agencies and to doctors to refer patients. In addition, it gave doctors "loans" never intending to be repaid, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.[48][8]
In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the United States government $631 million, plus interest, and $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[49] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle; at the time, this was the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history.[50][51]
The federal government sends out money and verifies the accuracy and legitimacy later.
It's really ridiculous how much fraud is in all government programs. Such as refundable income tax credits
It's really ridiculous how much fraud is in all government programs. Such as refundable income tax credits
This bad. Now do our felon in chief.
Yep. Easy way to make decent money for a little while and if you get lucky like Scott and get rich off of it you can buy your way out of jail.
I wonder how much fraud there actually is. Our federal budget is $6.8 trillion and this is a rounding error. By all means throw the book at fraudsters but it's likely a distraction from the fact that our federal govt spends way more than it takes in which is why we have a massive deficit and a $38 trillion debt. Our national debt increases about $6 billion a day, $250 million per hour. Government revenues cover about 60% of the budget. BTW, our national debt was $5 trillion and declining in 2001 when Bush took office. We also had a budget surplus. Ask yourself whether only one party is responsible when which party increased the debt the most
TDSI’m all for cutting the budget a lot but not likely to happen unless people get smarter or we show lots of fraud.
Finding fraud and making cuts in anything besides Social Security, Medicare, and Defense is like pissing in the ocean. It is also nearly impossible to do from a political standpoint at this juncture. There is simply not enough political will to do it for the people who control those purse strings. Republicans are all for cutting wasteful spending, but see what the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee (Roger Wicker) does if a proposal to close Columbus AFB, Keesler AFB, or Meridian NAS comes up.
GOA estimated $17 billion paid out in EITC fraud in one year.
https://republicanpolicy.house.gov/...End Abuse of the Earned Income Tax Credit.pdf
https://republicanpolicy.house.gov/...End Abuse of the Earned Income Tax Credit.pdf
Making cuts is one thing, but fraud is unconscionable. One can argue that keeping those bases open services the national interest. Stealing hurts people and places and should be rooted out vigorously.
Yes, do one for Joe Biden. Horshack forgot to include "former". Sane people know Trump's conviction was absurd and nothing more than a political hit-piece.
But Joe and the Biden family? Wow, now there's same grade A corruption there, and quite possibly some actual more serious shenanigans, considering how wealthy they got from the Chinese, Burisma, etc.
Anyone in politics is eligible to be a felon. Once you accept this, it can loosen the hateful death grip you may have on the politician that lives rent free in your mind and heart.
I understand that I may be an outlier who thinks that a convicted felon, who fomented a failed insurrection, is immoral, patently dishonest, vindictive, hateful, narcissistic and authoritarian isn't a good leader for our country, but as an olive branch can we all just agree that these masked cowards should not be supported by Americans who believe in our laws and constitution? At least not for conservatives like us who value individual privacy and government transparency. Our warfighters in Iraq displayed their name, rank and face in the face of Al Qaeda (honorable and brave).
Not really. It seems to be much more concentrated in social programs. I don't know if they are audited less or what, but that's where the majority of fraud seems to take place.
You don't get away with that type of shlt in many of the major programs, like the IRS, Transportation, etc.
Of course there is a ton of waste (not necessarily fraud) in the military but sssshhhhhhh can't say that.
"a failed insurrection" --- You sir, do not know what an insurrection would really look like. When our patience ends and we decide that losing everything we have worked for over our entire lives is required to save the country, then it will be hell and no one will be safe. That is what the "insurrection" will look like. Never throw that word around like it was a real thing. You do not have any idea how dangerous it is. No one wants for this to happen, so I wish you idiots would stop thinking it did.
Yeah totally cultish. I’ve got a wall of nothing but MAGA hats and shirts and a few trump dolls!!!
Well I don't know if food stamps have more fraud than tax credits.
I know what I'm talking about on tax credits. EITC, home buyers credit, PPP loans, Covid-Sick leave, Employee Retention credit.... all these went out without verification. The fraud is/was massive.
The criminal investigations and audits are after rhe money leaves and the gov... the IRS....does there checks and verifications and realizes it was fraud.