How do we match up with TAM?.....

thekimmer

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Edge
O-line TAM
Receivers TAM
RBs MSU
QB MSU

D-line MSU
LBs MSU
Secondary TAM

ST Push

Home field MSU

Thoughts?
 

Shamoan

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QB is a push at best. dak is awesome, but trill has been absolutely lighting it up.
 

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I'm with you on QB being even, but I also think A&M doesn't have as much of an edge on WR than everyone thinks. We actually have more YPA and YPC than A&M. Our receivers also do an excellent job of blocking.
 

121Josey

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QB - Definitely MSU
OL - TAMU
WR - PUSH
RB - MSU

DL - MSU
LB - MSU
DB - MSU

ST - TAMU

Home - PUSH
 

tenureplan

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That kind of match up is great for fantasy

but not so much for determining who has the edge.

What's more important is how our strengths/weaknesses match against theirs.
 

patdog

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Hill didn't look good against Arkansas. USC's defense is terrible. He certainly doesn't suck, but Dak is a better QB right now.
 

dawgatUSM

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I agree with the list with the exception of WR. I know the perception is they are probably better but our guys from top to bottom have been doing a bang up job. Wilson and Lewis are our most present but guys like Morrow, M Johnson, R Johnson, Ross, Miles, Brown and so on have played excellent. All catch the ball and all block well.
 

Shamoan

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well, we too have played some terrible defenses. he has thrown for 1700 yards (with 1 more game than dak, but just short of 800 yards more than dak), he has 17 TD's to dak's 11 passing TD's, has a 5% better pass completion percent, but dak has him beat in rushing. hill has also thrown the ball 84 times more than dak and has the same number of int's. dak certainly is the much better runner, but hill aint no slouch either. for our system, im picking dak over hill, but his stats are better than daks. they are both outstanding. not sure if you watched that arkansas game or not, but there were a ton of dropped passes, so the aTm receivers werent doing him any favors. its just difficult to compare them given the style offense. the sumlin offense does nothing but put up points, but imo, the stats are on hills side. that said, for OUR offense, im taking dak over hill, but in a traditional offense, that may or may not be the case.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/id/8/sec-conference
 

The Fatboy

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This^^^^^

I think both our lines are better than theirs. This is where we win the game. Our D Line will get to Hill often and I think our O line will hold them off for the passing game and open up very large holes for Josh to run through and when it breaks down Dak is going to gash them.
 

121Josey

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People think Hill is so great because of what he did @USCe. Compare what Dak did on the road in Tiger Stadium against a defense whose strength is their secondary - who hadn't given up a score since their first game of the season... to a Hill playing a defacto homegame against, well, UPigg. No doubt Dak is the better QB. They go head to head this week, so it will end all debate - although its unfair that Dak gets to go against A&M's defense.
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8/28@South CarolinaW 52-28 446051173.33330161.4750.79091.594.3
9/6LamarW 73-3 172628365.45140207.6263.07096.992.8
9/13RiceW 38-10 203130064.54840188.45387.639092.786.8
9/20@SMUW 58-6 162226572.77021194.825728.558096.995.3
9/27
ArkansasW 35-28 (OT) 214138651.28641157.66305.010071.376.6

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DATEOPPRESULT CMPATTYDSCMP%LNGTDINTRATATTYDSAVGLNGTDRAW QBRADJ QBR
8/30Southern MissW 49-0 182628469.23541204.18232.915064.843.9
9/6UABW 47-34 122521148.06841163.7181116.217178.774.1
9/13@South AlabamaW 35-3 132120161.93910158.0141399.940194.395.4
9/20
@LSUW 34-29 152426862.57420183.8221054.856189.295.7

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Dawgzilla

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I think TAMU's D-line is much better than LSU's. We won't be able to push their DTs around the way we did against LSU. It also looks like they rotate the Dline a lot; they were very stout against Arkansas in the 4th quarter. We will score, a lot, but we will also have some 3 and outs where Dak just gets swallowed up for 3 straight plays.

The question to me is how many big plays will our defense give up? TAMU won't be able to run, but they are going to have some wide open receivers. If Hill can hit them, it could be a long day.
 

thf24

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Hill wasn't great against Arkansas. His stats look pretty good (if A&M isn't passing, they're not winning) until you get to his completion percentage: barely over 50%. It was under 50% for most of the game. And that's against one of the weaker SEC fronts and pass defenses he'll see this year. He's good, but he isn't the superstar he's been touted as, at least not yet. I think Dak is the obvious choice here.
 

esplanade91

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How are people so confident about our offensive line when arguably the best one is out for the game? To boot, people have been dogging it right up until after the LSU game. Now it's better than the best one in the conference?

If we win this game it'll be because our DB's played great. That will be the storyline one way or another. I think we'll score early and often, I just worry they will too... And it's a lot easier to outdo someone when you score through the air instead of the ground.

Bear needs to get open and do his thing and we're good. Tell 'em, Bear's uncle.
 

tebmsu97

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I think TAMU's D-line is much better than LSU's. We won't be able to push their DTs around the way we did against LSU. It also looks like they rotate the Dline a lot; they were very stout against Arkansas in the 4th quarter. We will score, a lot, but we will also have some 3 and outs where Dak just gets swallowed up for 3 straight plays.

The question to me is how many big plays will our defense give up? TAMU won't be able to run, but they are going to have some wide open receivers. If Hill can hit them, it could be a long day.

I agree with all of the above except that there D line is much better than LSU. I don't think we gash them like we did in BR, but we should be able to run the ball.

The open crossing routs are what I am afraid of, they are going to 7yd ou defense all day then over the top for a kill shot. We will have to get to th QB early and often.
 

thekimmer

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Why would you say this?....

o... And it's a lot easier to outdo someone when you score through the air instead of the ground.


As long as you finish drives a score is a score regardless if you pass or run and as long as your offense is on the field their offense is harmless. Also, the longer you keep a defense on the field the more likely they will wear down in the latter stages. I would feel much better going into the 4th quarter tied up but having dominated time of possession by running the football than being up a score in a flat out track-meet.

Trying to out score TAM through the air is a recipe for defeat in my opinion.
 

patdog

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Arkansas averaged 6.1 yards per rush against A&M's defensive front, and that doesn't include a 50+ yard run in the 4th quarter that would have iced the game that was called back for a tripping penalty that occurred after the runner was past the spot of the foul. I think we'll be able to run the ball on them.
 

Dawgzilla

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Arkansas offensive line is quite a bit larger than ours. I'm not saying they are better, but they are bigger and Arkansas runs the ball better than us. Yes, TAMU gave up that big run that was called back, but after that they really shut Arkansas down. Their Dline looked very fresh in the 4th quarter.

Look, I think we will score a lot, I just think their Dline will cause more problems than LSU, and we had plenty of 3 and outs at LSU.
 

Sack N City

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Forgot one important factor. Who do the SEC officials favor?

Do we have to overcome SEC officials too?

Or are they a push?

We know what to expect at Bama.
 

Boardtown Remy

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We may not have to push aTm's DLine around if they keep lining up out of the run lanes. Until second half vs Ark, they played all season with both DTs inside the guards and DEs well outside the tackles. Also one DE seemed to lineup a yard off the line of scrimmage. Dunno why. No doubt, I don't know football as well as their DC, but the formation boggles me.