How exactly do fake classes not fall under NCAA jurisdiction?

DerHntr

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/28/us/ncaa-athletes-unc/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

I must be reading this wrong. Personally I am all for the NCAA having less of a reach into university life, but I would think that a student "taking" a fake class would mean there is a chance that the student is not truly full time. Is that not covered by the NCAA?

I know we have talked about this case before but this is the first time that UNC has come out and fully admitted being wrong. They seem to be jumping in with both feet this time. I wonder if they will apologize to the woman who did the original research. Not likely.
 

SwampDawg

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This is the only thing that bothers me about college athletics. I was not a student athlete, so what I think I know is based on what I read and hear. The athletes that do not want to learn and are not forced to meet at least minimum classroom requirements have two choices: go pro (what small percentage makes that cut?) or try to make a living completely unequipped to do so (re: the UNC athletes that can't read.) I think most colleges have departments that are dedicated to making sure athletes meet at least the minimum requirements of the school, but if the don't, or if they are not forced to do their job, it is a terrible indictment of our school system.
 

patdog

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2 answers. One, fake classes DO fall under the NCAA's jurisdiction. The NCAA investigated this earlier and found nothing. Two, NCAA enforcement is a complete joke. They've lost almost all their experienced investigators, and they've been caught redhanded acting unethically in the Miami investigation. They really just don't know what they're doing.
 

starkvegasdawg

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Not a lot different than what every college in the US does. I've had an instructor at MSU tell me that there are one hour classes for the football players such as weight lifting, Running, etc. Basically, for going to team lifts and things like that they are getting one hour of college credit. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out they all get an A. Just a way to boost their GPA and help keep them all eligible.
 

DerHntr

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New question: for the guys who want players to be paid above board at each school, should the athletes then also be held to an academic standard consistent with the rest of the student body?
 
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I would go as far as saying if you are going to start paying them, they should be held to a much higher standard than the rest of the student body. In my time at MSU, I took a couple classes that had athletes in them and it was always the same argument. They claimed that they were all broke because their sport took up all their time and they couldn't work like the rest of us. I do not doubt for a second they are strapped for cash. So is everyone else in college. But they receive so many benefits from being student athletes that may not end up as money in their hand, but surely has a large monetary value. If you decide to start paying them on top of that, They should have to dress and act in a professional manner just as the majority of us are expected to day in and day out.