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How much did Kirby have to do with coaching Defense and controlling players???

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fishwater99

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I really think he was the glue that held the team together as the disciplinarian and also was a good defensive coach..
 
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Dawgbreeze

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Kirby doesn't even sit near Thompson during a Georgetown game and if you don't believe me, watch Georetown play. He has not been able to get a head job anywhere and would give his left nut to be back in Starkville. Some of you folks are clueless. And by the way, George Brooks is not a bad coach but I am sure most of the coaches on here think they are better.
 
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fishwater99

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Our defense is horrible and Stans has no control over his players. So if it wasn't Kirby then what has happened???
 
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maroonmania

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I still think that MSU fans almost universally thought Kirby was absolutely the best assistant Stans had on his staff. Maybe its finding the tallest midget so to speak but he was considered that.
 
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Hanmudog

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fishwater99 said:
Our defense is horrible and Stans has no control over his players. So if it wasn't Kirby then what has happened???
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Your guess is as good as mine but I think it has more to do with the type players we have had recently. All the discipline in the world can't keepguys likeKodi, Ravern, and Sidney walking the straight and narrow. That type of idiot is just going to be a screwup no matter what. Kirby just had the good fortune to not be here the last couple of years when things got out of hand.

I think for the most part Stansbury has just gotten lazy and content and is not preaching defense and rebounding like he once did but pretending that Kirby was some sort of taskmaster is just another internet myth.
 
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Dawgbreeze

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It is all about players and some don't have the work ethic on defense as others. Folks always wantto come up with some analogy that may have nothing to do with what is going on. We have had no discipline issues this year since a couple of guys missed a curfew. all the ramblings about no discipline are BS. Discipline has not cost us one game this year. Depth has killed us and last night we found out quick how tough it was trying to guard bigger quicker players with guys who are not great on defense. Robert will tell you he spent most of the time on the road recruiting and I promise you, he now realizes he should have stayed at MSU. I don't think it would matter one bit if he was here or there and folks will always give Stans all the blame when we lose and Stan Jones, Kirby, or someone else credit when we win. It never changes on this board.
 
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Mullenation

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I don't know what Kirby's role is at Georgetown, but I firmly believe what 2 former players told me, and that is that Kirby was the disciplinarian and the coach that all the players respected and listened too. The first year he is gone, we have the dumpster fire that is last year along with continued control issues. There could be many reasons to why he hasn't gotten a head coaching job, but his role at MSU under Stans was an important one.
 
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8dog

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to AU, LSU, and GA we gave up 70 in OT, 69 in OT, and 65 in regulation. That's not a lot of points. We didn't even have to score 70 and we still could have won all 3.
 
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Dawgbreeze

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Or they won't. Anybody can see that we have options other than who we are playing. That falls back on Stans because of the type players signed and thus, the lack of depth. However the bs on here about players not respecting Stans is just that. Players wouldn't keep coming here if they did not respect him.
 
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DerHntr

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in trouble as in breaking rules?

We don't play disciplined basketball. We have players who don't listen to the coach on the court (ala Dee saying he was told to do one thing but threw it down the court anyway when inbounding and he said this to a damn news crew). We have guys who are not in shape which requires discipline because a lot of staying in shape cannot be watched directly by the coaching staff. I believe that Rick actually wants them to eat properly, hydrate properly (here's looking at you Bost with craps last night), and to work out. I bet he even talks about it with them. Then you look down the bench and see Sidney at nearly 300 lbsand previously saw the chicken arms and legs of Ravern and Jarvis. I'm not putting all of that on the players because even without being able to watch them directly,the coach has to demand enough respect out of his players for them to be disciplined even when he isn't around.

Don't spin it as a simple act of following or not following team rules like a curfew. It's almost like you are excited we haven't had a fist fight on national television this year because that shows how disciplined we are these days. That only shows we are at least no longer an outlier when it comes to having a crew of screw ups on the team.
 
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