How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

[crackerjack.sixpack]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Sure, you might have occasional defections or player problems, but your most successful men's athletic program over the last 15 years has just sunk to rock bottom, and everybody is jumping ship. There were obviously some deep issues here, loss of control, etc. If Stricklin is the CEO of the athletic department, should he bear more responsibility when one of the department's programs is utterly decimated?</p>

 

[crackerjack.sixpack]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Sure, you might have occasional defections or player problems, but your most successful men's athletic program over the last 15 years has just sunk to rock bottom, and everybody is jumping ship. There were obviously some deep issues here, loss of control, etc. If Stricklin is the CEO of the athletic department, should he bear more responsibility when one of the department's programs is utterly decimated?</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

 

[Shmuley]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

by taking the "rip the bandaid off, endure the pain, and let the healing begin" approach; or they're throwbacks to the James McComas/Charley Scott "damn we suck" era.

 

[maroonmania]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

if we really made the decision to break away from all things AAU related and now can't recruit high quality basketball talent. Yea, I dislike the AAU circuit as much as anyone and the shady guys like WWW. However, the situation is what it is and if you are not willing to do the things you have to do to get the talent to compete in college basketball you might as drop the sport and put your money somewhere else. I certainly hope Rick Ray can recruit but based on results so far with players already on the roster or guys that had already signed with us leaving or still wanting to leave I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[The Peeper]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

that brings along with it. Im convinced there was too much comfort and familiarity with a coach that had been around a long time that it delayed the decision for a year.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Seriously. He had a direct quote last week saying he had been in touch with AAU coaches.

 

[SyonaraStanz]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Stricklin was/is Stansbury's boss. So, it's up to him to know what's going on in the program and to know what direction the program was heading. He waited until the program was completely devastated until he made a move, so that's on him. He had the perfect opportunity to rid MSU of Stansbury and Cheeseburger Sidney over a year ago, after the Hawaii incident, but he didn't. He kept Stansbury through all of the drama over the recent years and fully supported him, so he deserves a lot of blame.

 

[Foronce]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

not buying that, he has to have some responsibility ...basically because he should have 'retired' stansbury last year

 

[dawgstudent]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

but I really don't see how you let Stansbury go when most thought this past year's team was a sure fire tournament team.

I don't know if this is true or not but everything I heard was that our Athletic dept forced Stansbury to deliver punishment of some sort after the incident in Hawaii. He was going to let both players stay.

 

[JimmyBags]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

I played on Omhar's AAU team at MBA in Jackson and stay in touch with him about the ongoings in Mississippi basketball. He is THE top AAU coach in the state and as of a few days ago Ray had not contacted him and Omharhas the impression that Ray does not think he was "important". Omhar coached the likes ofMonta, Hood, Deville, and has Malik Newman (the #1 16 yr old in the country). Ray does not have a 17in clue. Welcome to Mississippi coach

 

[Shmuley]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

On February 9, 2012, following the victory against Mississippi, Stans and crew were sitting at 19-5 and a virtual lock. At that point, nobody was pointing a finger at Stricklin's hair-brained decision to keep bury and his collection of kept women one more year. I mean, you really have to conjure up some unbelievable **** to think, at that point, that things would end up where they did. As of February 9 it appeared Stricklin may have made the right decision.

My opinion is that there is enough evidence for doubts about the admin's readiness for prime time without regard to what the admin decided vis a vis stans a year ago. I mean, putting out a public call for patience and then hiring an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience from a program that played its last game on March 8? That **** creates lots of doubt.

 

[Brahmabull]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

If he is not going to make nice with
<span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Omhar</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; text-align: left; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "></span>then we can forget signing any players of major talent from our home state. It is that simple.

 

[randystewart]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

IF there is a conscious decision to break away from AAU recruiting, there MUST be a reason that we are unaware of. Look at our past under Stans...... It is very likely that we are a gnats dick away from being hammered by the NCAA. The Sidney situation alone was taking a big risk, and I guarantee you that we were not clean in getting him on campus.
So lets not blast Keenum and Stricklin just yet, because they are likely doing what is needed to try to soften the blow or take some heat off.

 

[MagnificentBastard]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

He could have/should have forced Sidney out after the fight in Hawaii. I don't know if that improves our record this year or not, but I think we may have avoided the complete dumpster fire.

 

[Foronce]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

coming in from a dumpster fire at 17-12 ...bost sr pg, moultrie coming in, sidney return and hood, smith, johnson, gardner, and ??
I consider an attractive job and probably most mid-majors may jump for

Fast forward one year, to allow Stansbury to 'save his job', it fails
no bost, moultrie, sidney, smith, gardner ...hood leaving rumors ...don't know johnson and ??
not very attractive job ...just go get the best guy you can.

So basically his responsibility lands somewhere in between do you think Stansbury should have been allowed a year to save his job?
If you do, i agree Stricklin should have no responsibility until he hands Rick Ray a cowbell

 

[8dog]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Bowers, Rhodes, and Patterson are about it.

The program was built off of out of staters. And the last couple of years, we have missed all the good MS kids (except Hood) so we could take Deville and Shaun Smith. See Jarvis Summers, Andre Stringer, Julysses Nobles, Obryant, the kid from Murray State.

 

[Coach34]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

sure we had to do something to get Sidney. And Tennessee did something to get Hopson, and LSU did something to get O'Bryant, and on and on and on. We just got to watch the Sidney situation up close, and realize there is no way a coach would keep playing someone that behaved in that manner unless something was going on. The way Sidney played embarrassed Stansbury, Sidney's family, Miss State, and the SEC.

I have no inside info on this- I'm just of the opinion that Scott wants someone with a backbone- and doesnt want to see our basketball program being held by the balls ever again. It's simple as that. I think that is why he backed off Kenny Payne at the last minute. But I dont think NCAA issues are why we have gone this route.

Stansbury has been recruiting the same way for 15+ years, it didnt start with Sidney

 

[Brahmabull]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

If you are not going to get creative with the Omhar Carter's of the world (as Billy Donovan calls it), then you might as well not have a basketball program. Heck, you think we get out of state talent without catering to AAU guys?

 

[BulldogBlitz]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

nm

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Bowers, Rhodes, and Patterson are about it.

The program was built off of out of staters. And the last couple of years, we have missed all the good MS kids (except Hood) so we could take Deville and Shaun Smith. See Jarvis Summers, Andre Stringer, Julysses Nobles, Obryant, the kid from Murray State.

Jarvis Summers isone kid I wish MSU had pursued.

Saw him play in a tournament his 10th grade year and was very impressed - especially after his coach told me what a hard nosed kid he is.

Was Caanan a sleeper that fell through the cracks to Murray?Thingscould have been a lot different with him at the 1 and Bost at the 2.

 

[8dog]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

I was touching on the fact that MS is not where our bread has been buttered. As for the rest, if you would like to indict our program, have at it.

 

[sardis]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

teams has been visible for a long time (05), Strickland maybe couldn't fire him last year, but he should have know another blow up wascoming when there's a fat superstar that can't run from end to the other. Not going the AAU route means we looked at the real world, didn't like what you have to do to play and decided to go another course, a course that Rick Ray and Strickland will have to chart and work exceptionally hard to make it work, possible yes, probable, no.

 

[coach66]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

giving him **** about our basketball program under Stansbury. I don't know what all that means but the perception Scott got from other AD's was that we needed an<div>enema and he needed to deliver it. It kind of concerns me if this is true but I don't know how that fraternity works and it may be Scott made the right decision, I</div><div>don't know.</div>

 

[fishwater99]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

He is going to have to play the AAU game or we will never compete in the SEC again, period....

 

[Brahmabull]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

I am not saying you have to cheat to play the AAU game. There are ways to cater to the AAU coaches that are within the NCAA rules. Donovan has even commented on it in articles. For instance, you pay an AAU coach to be a speaker at your summer camp. <div>
</div><div>And if it is true that Stick bowed down to the other AD's in our conference then that is stupid. I don't see them forcing the biggest cheat in college basketball out of Kentucky! </div>

 

[FlabLoser]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Defections in recent years are the reason the roster is depleted. That's on Stansbury. The RSS era is on Stansbury. Being called out by more than few national media as being an unorganized train wreck of a program is on Stansbury.

Ricky Ray may or may not be our next good coach. But Stricklin really messed up the process of finding one.

 

[fishwater99]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

The buck stops with him and he failed by not sending our "old coach" packing last year.

 

[drt7891]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

but considering the situation we were in, who we were anticipating getting back (Moultrie, Bost, Bryant, and most would argue, even a "changed" Sidney), I don't blame Scott for keeping Stans on board, A mediocre season by most SEC school's standards was not merit enough for firing him. However, the ONLY thing I criticize Strick for last year was not putting his foot down after Stans kicked Bailey off the team and only suspending Sidney for 2 games. That was Stansbury's death nail and from then on, he lost all credibility with his team... and the fans. It showed.

ETA: Also, the twitter mess.

 

[fishwater99]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

 

[bobthecavemonkey]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

There were reasons to question Stans and put him in the hot seat, but not enough to fire him yet.

 

[drt7891]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

I thought he should have been gone after 2009 and failing to make the NCAAT, but I think Strick and Byrne were both justified in their decisions to keep him.

 

[DerHntr]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Punish them both severely and let them both stay on the team. Instead, he kicked off Bailey and made it absolutely clear to anyone and everyone that Renardo was bigger than the program. No one should be surprised that Renardo continued to be lazy, stayed fat, and was a cancer for the program. Rick allowed all of it.

 

[dawgstudent]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

 

[BCade.sixpack]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

He could have/should have forced Sidney out after the fight in Hawaii. I don't know if that improves our record this year or not, but I think we may have avoided the complete dumpster fire.

The dumpster fire was caused byStrickland firing Stansbury. Things weren't exactly in the dumpsterthis year. 21 wins and a top twenty signing class coming in with a knockout chance at the Kemper County Ace. So I say the dumpster fire was started by the emotional reaction to our not staying in thetop 20 (caused primarily by one player), unrealistic expectations caused by great success, and finally an Athletic Director, who would be better off trying to develop a workable traffic flow pattern for departing from football games than firing the most successful coach of the most successful program at the school. If I were going to fire someone, I know who I would fire!

 

[JackBauer.sixpack]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

If Dan Mullen leaves tomorrow, do you want Scott Stricklin making the hire? I dont want Scott trying to think outside the box or make some sort of maverick type hire for the entity that generates the lifeblood for the rest of the university.

And with regards to the SEC AD fraternity, that is certainly plausible, but couldnt Stricklin have asked why fingers weren't being pointed at Calipari, Pearl, Chizik, etc.?

 

[fishwater99]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

J-Money ran the show and our "old coach" let him do what he wanted with no consequences. Our team has been on a downward slide ever since..
He let a under-sized power forward play point guard in hopes that he could play in the NBA..

 

[Caoch34]

How much responsibility should Scott Stricklin have for the basketball program's implosion?

Hey Meo!