How to handle the death of someone you don't like

CatsPaws270

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The next time someone goes on a rant saying "Matt Jones is some POS liberal" should really take a step back. Matt has his beliefs & he may think he's a bit smarter....but he isn't hateful & at least respects others and their beliefs.

Kyle Tucker on the other hand....he thinks Rush Limbaugh is bad for saying mean things....the same Kyle Tucker who constantly insults people and says hateful things about his enemies....also defends the same hateful Rex Chapman. The hypocrisy is funny because they're doing the EXACT SAME THING....they say contraversial things for attention lol
 

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Literally the only time I've been happy someone died was Osama Bin Laden. I put "America F*$# Yeah" on repeat and ran around my apartment chanting "USA! USA! USA!"

past that. My mama always said if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.
 

CatsPaws270

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Literally the only time I've been happy someone died was Osama Bin Laden. I put "America F*$# Yeah" on repeat and ran around my apartment chanting "USA! USA! USA!"

past that. My mama always said if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.
If Pearl Harbor happened today....
The GOP would blame FDR for being too soft on Japan & demand hearings for why we missed it....the Dems would've blamed obstruction in Congress by conservatives.

If 9/11 happened today.....
The Dems would've proclaimed that Bush was too dumb is why the attack happened....the GOP would've claimed cancel PC culture led to us not properly vetting the terrorists.


We're on the same team...
(Someone will respond to this blaming GOP or Dems for why we're so divided.)
 

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The next time someone goes on a rant saying "Matt Jones is some POS liberal" should really take a step back. Matt has his beliefs & he may think he's a bit smarter....but he isn't hateful & at least respects others and their beliefs.

Kyle Tucker on the other hand....he thinks Rush Limbaugh is bad for saying mean things....the same Kyle Tucker who constantly insults people and says hateful things about his enemies....also defends the same hateful Rex Chapman. The hypocrisy is funny because they're doing the EXACT SAME THING....they say contraversial things for attention lol


You could argue that Matt is just being political. What does he have to gain from trashing Limbaugh? He already has leftist voters on his side, so why risk alienating people in the middle by speaking ill of the dead?

He said that he hated Rush Limbaugh in 2010. HATE. Don't try to bullsh*t me by talking about Jesus, Matt Jones.

 
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If Pearl Harbor happened today....
The GOP would blame FDR for being too soft on Japan & demand hearings for why we missed it....the Dems would've blamed obstruction in Congress by conservatives.

If 9/11 happened today.....
The Dems would've proclaimed that Bush was too dumb is why the attack happened....the GOP would've claimed cancel PC culture led to us not properly vetting the terrorists.


We're on the same team...
(Someone will respond to this blaming GOP or Dems for why we're so divided.)

Honestly, people like Rush are largely to blame for this environment. It's ok to speak honestly of the dead. Dancing on someone's grave is always in poor taste, but Rush was destructive to American society.
 

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Honestly, people like Rush are largely to blame for this environment. It's ok to speak honestly of the dead. Dancing on someone's grave is always in poor taste, but Rush was destructive to American society.

Rush Limbaugh happened as a RESPONSE to this environment, specifically political correctness. He recognized very early on that PC was hypocritical and anti-individual. Cancel culture is the offspring of everything the man made his living warning about.
 

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Honestly, people like Rush are largely to blame for this environment. It's ok to speak honestly of the dead. Dancing on someone's grave is always in poor taste, but Rush was destructive to American society.

^In your opinion. I'm no fan of Rush, didn't really pay much attention to him honestly, but because you have a certain set of beliefs, someone who disagrees with you is 'destructive to American society'? How very open-minded of you.
 
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^In your opinion. I'm no fan of Rush, didn't really pay much attention to him honestly, but because you have a certain set of beliefs, someone who disagrees with you is 'destructive to American society'? How very open-minded of you.

It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.
 

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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.

Sort of like the Democrats are doing with that tiny group of Trump voters (74.3M).
 

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The next time someone goes on a rant saying "Matt Jones is some POS liberal" should really take a step back. Matt has his beliefs & he may think he's a bit smarter....but he isn't hateful & at least respects others and their beliefs.

Kyle Tucker on the other hand....he thinks Rush Limbaugh is bad for saying mean things....the same Kyle Tucker who constantly insults people and says hateful things about his enemies....also defends the same hateful Rex Chapman. The hypocrisy is funny because they're doing the EXACT SAME THING....they say contraversial things for attention lol


I give respect to MJ on that, even if I don’t love all of his actions. Funny how much attack he’s getting from his usual fan club on there. Just saying the name of Jesus will be a hate crime on Twitter before you know it.
 

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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.

He considered them to be deplorable, amirite?
 
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CatsPaws270

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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.
As someone who Rush talked down on....Rush did it more from a playful standpoint. He did add the element of fear....but did it from a genuine point.

As a left leaning person....people in the northeast & in academia do look down on the rural areas of the nation. Now GOP policies aren't the most helpful...but I've lived in those areas and have been in those circles. They do think we're all stupid...and they need to tell us what to do.

The difference in people on my side is that they believe any dissent makes you the equivalent of a slave-holder and Hitler. We used to be the party of worker rights and fighting for equality....but it's beyond that now....anyone who doesn't agree is Hitler.

Like the issue of transgenderism, my point is that no one should experience hate & should be able to have a job and a home no matter what they were or look like.....but our side now believes that if you just want to have a discussion on gender identity & don't accept what's being told....even though it's unsettled science....you're a new Hitler.

The Left is now what the religious right was in the 1980's & 1990's....which is what drove me, a Christian, to be more liberal....but now the left is driving people further right with the policing of speech.
 
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It’s best if we say something positive about those that have recently passed on. I really appreciate that he was willing to change his strongly held opinions. Example... for the longest time he told the public that drug abuse was a choice, not an addiction. And that people that obtained drugs illegally and abused them should be prosecuted and jailed. But when he was faced with new information in October of 2003, he changed his position and said that drug abuse was a health issue, not a criminal issue, and that rehab was better than criminal prosecution. Even when the drugs were obtained illegally. Good for him for being willing to quickly and effortlessly do a 180 in his thinking. It takes a big man to admit when he’s wrong. Rush was that big man.
 

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Spoiler: The pundits of a guy who dedicated his life to punditry are angry at opposing pundits who dedicate their beliefs to some other pundit.
 
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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.

You never listened to the man's show. Probably not even one time.

If you did, and still hold this view, you're an idiot. Not to mention and piece of **** for "dancing on someone's grave."
 

gamecockcat

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It's not about beliefs, it's about behavior. It was his constant belittling and attacking and identifying of other Americans not as companions with differences in opinion or as ideological rivals but as ENEMIES. The very thing that post I was responding to was about. The very thing you now pretend to care about while defending a man who made an entire career out of it.
And yet the rhetoric from the far Left is universally more confrontational, condescending, dismissive and 'us vs. them' than it is from the Right. Go look at the Twitter reactions to his death if you don't think so. Go look at the Trump defense during the latest impeachment trial. Almost every single major player on the prosecution side has used language that mirrored or even surpassed what they accused Trump of. "Basket of deplorables" ring a bell? "Cling to their guns and religion" ring a bell? "Flyover country" ring a bell? "Enemies of the state" ring a bell? Every single quote uttered by a prominent Democrat. The lack of self awareness on both sides of the spectrum is astounding.
 

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The next time someone goes on a rant saying "Matt Jones is some POS liberal" should really take a step back. Matt has his beliefs & he may think he's a bit smarter....but he isn't hateful & at least respects others and their beliefs.

Kyle Tucker on the other hand....he thinks Rush Limbaugh is bad for saying mean things....the same Kyle Tucker who constantly insults people and says hateful things about his enemies....also defends the same hateful Rex Chapman. The hypocrisy is funny because they're doing the EXACT SAME THING....they say contraversial things for attention lol

I'm with matt. Those who hate on the dead and "dance on the grave," are pretty despicable people .
 
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If you're rallying around and praising a guy like Limbaugh, you're absolutely "deplorable" and are a massive hypocrite if you're calling out anyone else for rudeness or meanness or offensiveness.

Says the guy who admitted to knowing nothing about what Limbaugh actually believed or said in furtherance of those beliefs. Then, as if that weren't bad enough, proceeds to smear millions of people who actually listened to the guy for years.
 
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Says the guy who admitted to knowing nothing about what Limbaugh actually believed or said in furtherance of those beliefs. Then, as if that weren't bad enough, proceeds to smear millions of people who actually listened to the guy for years.

Rush Limbaugh was a terrible person and if you liked him you're a terrible person. Go grab a tissue and cry about it, snowflake.
 

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Ganner does not believe that people that have different opinions have rights to the airwaves. You better agree with him or he will take you off the radio. Or Twitter. Or cat's paw. He is open-minded though. He is so open-minded that he cannot allow anyone that disagrees with him to broadcast.
 

CatsPaws270

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It’s best if we say something positive about those that have recently passed on. I really appreciate that he was willing to change his strongly held opinions. Example... for the longest time he told the public that drug abuse was a choice, not an addiction. And that people that obtained drugs illegally and abused them should be prosecuted and jailed. But when he was faced with new information in October of 2003, he changed his position and said that drug abuse was a health issue, not a criminal issue, and that rehab was better than criminal prosecution. Even when the drugs were obtained illegally. Good for him for being willing to quickly and effortlessly do a 180 in his thinking. It takes a big man to admit when he’s wrong. Rush was that big man.
Hopefully we can now discuss MLK’s blatant homophobia that he never repented for...he called homosexuality a problem.

A leader in his position saying those things has caused damage beyond belief in the next generations...we don’t need to make a day after a homophobic southern Baptist preacher.

Am I doing this right?
 
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Hopefully we can now discuss MLK’s blatant homophobia that he never repented for...he called homosexuality a problem.

A leader in his position saying those things has caused damage beyond belief in the next generations...we don’t need to make a day after a homophobic southern Baptist preacher.

Am I doing this right?

Nope! You were supposed to say something positive. You went negative.