I know you embrace them because you largely agree with them politically, so it's good to feel like you're part of the "team" ... and I know, when faced with completely loathsome trolls like JHP, Gibbs, and m.knox, who provide absolutely no actual discourse, this board looks like an awful option ... I just want you to keep in mind ... that crew over there DID get their own site, essentially, shut down (turned into a pay site from which they all fled), and then they did leave this board in ruins ... and, the entire way, while leaving this path of destruction, they never took responsibility for their own actions ... there was always someone else at fault. Gibbs. Me. Kakert, or whatever his name was. You name it, there was always someone else to blame. For instance, it was clear, early on, that Gibbs was mentally unwell, but it was also clear, early on, that they antagonized the situation, and actually loved it, while pretending to be offended by it all. And there was always drama ... that they pretended to abhor and, yet, seemingly always embraced and instigated. Point being, you're probably better off over there, but expect that to be pretty much a dumpster fire of drama, as well, sooner rather than later.