Hudspeth to Louisville or Vanderbilt?
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Per coaching search:
"UL-Lafayette / Louisville / Vanderbilt: The coach I would keep an eye on in the next 24-48 hours is UL-Lafayette head coach Mark Hudspeth. It will be interesting to see if Louisville and/or Vanderbilt (if it opens) reaches out the Hudspeth."
please no, not Vandy.
"UL-Lafayette / Louisville / Vanderbilt: The coach I would keep an eye on in the next 24-48 hours is UL-Lafayette head coach Mark Hudspeth. It will be interesting to see if Louisville and/or Vanderbilt (if it opens) reaches out the Hudspeth."
please no, not Vandy.
If he takes either one of those jobs....and has success
He will never coach at State. State would not be a big enough step up if he was successful at either Louisville or Vandy.
History has shown....or is showing in Franklin and Vandy's case.....that if you have success at those schools you can go next level.
He will never coach at State. State would not be a big enough step up if he was successful at either Louisville or Vandy.
History has shown....or is showing in Franklin and Vandy's case.....that if you have success at those schools you can go next level.
Jurich apparently had it down to three names - Narduzzi, Morris and Petrino - and Morris is a scratch.
WKU's AD has already had discussions with Jeff Brohm about that position if Petrino lands at UofL.
The hire will likely be made today.
Charlie Strong ($3.75 MM) was the 10th highest paid coach in college football at Louisville. Louisville's staff payroll is $2.7MM compared to ULL's $1MM. Louisville has a relatively new stadium that they continue to upgrade. Louisville is about to join the ACC. I know ULL is currently in the Sunbelt, but I have no idea if they are moving on.
There is no maybe to it.
I just don't get it I guess, I believe first of all that Mullen will be our coach for several more years and you just don't hand the job to Hud IF and when Mullen leaves. I sure hope he gets a better job regardless, but to worry about where he goes is not that important to me, after all there are a bunch of good up and coming coaches for the future.
I don't get it either. I mean I get that the chances of him ever being the head coach at MSU are less if he gets a job like Louisville. But I really don't care. I'm happy with the coach we have now and expect him to be here for a while. And when he does leave, we'll be in good position to make a competitive hire, whether that's Hudspeth or someone else.
If he takes any job voluntarily, he will not coach at State.
His next step is going to be to a school that will be on or about MSU's level. I doubt he will jump ship from a good situation (he's making I think >$700k base, has established a program that is his, is basically in the area of the country he wants to be in, etc). His next stop will be for >$1M base in a major conference. It may be a school lower on the pecking order than state, but it won't be significantly lower, and I'm just not sure coaching at MSU is such a dream for him that he would leave a good situation in a major conference.
The only exceptions I can think of would be maybe a Memphis, USM, or UAB. If he really likes being in and around MS (I think somebody has said he wants to stay close to his son?), maybe he's willing to move to a school like that for an extra $250k base, and State would still be able to pull him. But if he's getting mentioned for any major conference jobs while he's at ULL, I'm not sure moving to one of those jobs is that attractive. Especially because I think ULL has access to enough oil and gas money that they could make staying at ULL basically a push economically.
His next step is going to be to a school that will be on or about MSU's level. I doubt he will jump ship from a good situation (he's making I think >$700k base, has established a program that is his, is basically in the area of the country he wants to be in, etc). His next stop will be for >$1M base in a major conference. It may be a school lower on the pecking order than state, but it won't be significantly lower, and I'm just not sure coaching at MSU is such a dream for him that he would leave a good situation in a major conference.
The only exceptions I can think of would be maybe a Memphis, USM, or UAB. If he really likes being in and around MS (I think somebody has said he wants to stay close to his son?), maybe he's willing to move to a school like that for an extra $250k base, and State would still be able to pull him. But if he's getting mentioned for any major conference jobs while he's at ULL, I'm not sure moving to one of those jobs is that attractive. Especially because I think ULL has access to enough oil and gas money that they could make staying at ULL basically a push economically.
I concur. I am happy with Dan, although I do want to continue to improve. He restored our expectations and I'm sure he has some of his own as far as continuing to grow our program. I think Coach Mullen has earned his maroon stripes. We are looking for a new coach for several years to come unless Dan decides to go somewhere. After several years, the candidates will all look a little different and we should hire the best coach available at that time. I follow Hudspeth's ULL team and its good to watch. I agree that someone from a bigger conference will offer him soon whether it be Vandy or Louisville or someone else. I don't believe he would leave ULL for Memphis or UAB or any similar team. I put them on the same tier as ULL, and that would simply be a lateral move.
How long have you been a college football fan? Lately, outside of Muschamp, SEC teams can't seem to hire a bad coach. But this is an anomaly. Alabama hired Schula and before that, Franccione wasn't great. UF has missed on two out of the last three hires (Zook and Muschamp). USCe was a perennial loser prior to Holtz and Spurrier. UT hired Lane Kiffen and Dooley. Vanderbuilt was a graveyard prior to Franklin. State and Ole Miss hired Crooms and Orgeron. Auburn hired Chizik, which would have been disastrous except for having Malzahn as an assistant and making possibly the greatest $200k investment in the history of NCAA football. UK had a good one in Brooks, then screwed up with the Joker, and we'll see about Stoops. I agree people are probably too focused on it, but if you don't understand why people like to keep an eye an eye on a coach that has been successful literally everywhere he's been and would stay at MSU until he was fired if he got the job, you probably haven't been a fan long enough. Hopefully, MSU will continue to make good coaching choices and it will never make sense to you.
Of course there's a chance any hire could turn out to be a bad hire. But this is also true if we hire Hudspeth. You just never know when a coach is going to be able to continue his past success at a new school, especially in a higher level league. We just need to keep our current coach as long as he's successful (or until he's successful enough to get a really big job) and then make the best hire we can when the time comes. Whoever that hire is.
^this all day. I don't give a **** what Hud does as long as we have a successful coach who wants to be here. As long as Mullen wins he won't be going anywhere. I don't think his ego will allow him to leave until he's reached the level that he thinks we can achieve.
Well Johnson, you ask how long I've been a fan, graduated at Msu 1973. I could care less who failed in hiring a coach that didn't fit or wasn't the right choice. Like I said before, there are a bunch of really good coaches who just need a chance AND go to the right school. Some good coaches just aren't the right fit like Rich Rod when he went to Michigan. My point was and is that Hud shouldn't be our only concern for being at Msu, a good AD should have a cabinet full of potential coaches. I like patdog and others, have nothing against Hud but I sure would do a complete search for the right fit.
We have a good coach so why worry where Hud goes, good luck to him and I hope wherever he goes he makes plenty of money.
We have a good coach so why worry where Hud goes, good luck to him and I hope wherever he goes he makes plenty of money.
I'm not worried about where Hud goes. Like I said, I think people are too focused on it. Had Mullen finished out last year strong, he might would have gotten a big opportunity and taken it and then Hud would have been in play. But once the team hit the skids, it seemed highly unlikely that the timing would work out where Hud could come here. It seemed clear that short of Mullen's team having a meltdown, Hud was either going to continue to excel and get a big offer or not excel and his star fade well before Mullen would get fired or get a promotion from MSU.
But while it's not going to happen, I can certainly understand why people would hope Hud would be available when the next coaching search comes around. Call it Post LT stress disorder. There's no reason we shouldn't have a lot of good options the next time we have to make a hire. But there wasn't a good reason last time either, so people worry.
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"a good AD should have a cabinet full of potential coaches" . . . Our good AD must have forgotten to fill his cabinet before he fired the last coach.
You are spot on, we have have a good coach, who is a great fit for State. I hate to see what would happen if Scott ever had to replace him.