Hugh Baby is sick

SchrodingersDawg

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I guess I’m going to hell for wondering if he’s faking it.
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Mjoelner

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I've dealt with it 12 years and been very fortunate. I wish him nothing but the best in battling it. Sounds like he got a good report and with good treatment he can live a long time.
Just went through ADT and radiation this past summer. PSA is undetectable now but the Lupron side effects are a MF'er! Sleeping 9 hours a night and 11 to 13 hours on the weekend just to have enough energy to make it through the work week and still having to fight sleep on the way home every day. Hopefully I'll start getting some energy back around the end of April.
 

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Just went through ADT and radiation this past summer. PSA is undetectable now but the Lupron side effects are a MF'er! Sleeping 9 hours a night and 11 to 13 hours on the weekend just to have enough energy to make it through the work week and still having to fight sleep on the way home every day. Hopefully I'll start getting some energy back around the end of April.
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Take prostate cancer seriously and don't believe the "it's the cancer you'd prefer to have" line. About as many men die from it annually as women die of breast cancer but it gets nowhere near the research dollars of breast cancer, it's month is largely ignored and few people know much about it. Look at the fellow sixpackers here who've had it. Your life matters. I dislike Auburn and Hugh Freeze but that's about a football rivalry. I hope he beats this.
 

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I am in the same boat as Hugh… I am going to do SBRT (radiation) … I’m 57, of course the Urologist wanted to Radical Prostectomy, but I got 3 other opinions ( oncologist, Radiation Oncologist, and another Urologist) and they all recommended SBRT( which is 5-7 radiation doses over 2-3 weeks). The oncologist also wants me to do Hormone therapy, but I really don’t want to do that. So we will see on the hormone therapy.

The deciding factor was I talked to a 47 year old customer of mine who had radical Prostectomy a year ago , and he is absolutely miserable (ED, bladder control issues).
 
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Just went through ADT and radiation this past summer. PSA is undetectable now but the Lupron side effects are a MF'er! Sleeping 9 hours a night and 11 to 13 hours on the weekend just to have enough energy to make it through the work week and still having to fight sleep on the way home every day. Hopefully I'll start getting some energy back around the end of April.
Agree on the Lupron. It didn’t make me sleepy, but I had no energy. Couldn’t exercise, with yard work I’d have to stop and rest every few minutes. PSA is undetectable so that is good. Last shot in December so hopefully by summer I’ll have some energy.
 

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Agree on the Lupron. It didn’t make me sleepy, but I had no energy. Couldn’t exercise, with yard work I’d have to stop and rest every few minutes. PSA is undetectable so that is good. Last shot in December so hopefully by summer I’ll have some energy.
Per the calendar, my last shot was supposed to wear off on January 7th after being on it for 7 months. My oncologist and urologist both said it would probably be late April before I started really getting back to normal.
 
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Per the calendar, my last shot was supposed to wear off on January 7th after being on it for 7 months. My oncologist and urologist both said it would probably be late April before I started really getting back to normal.
Anyone tried Orgovyxx? The bounce back is suppose to be be quicker.
 

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Per the calendar, my last shot was supposed to wear off on January 7th after being on it for 7 months. My oncologist and urologist both said it would probably be late April before I started really getting back to normal.
I was on it for a year and four months. Urologist wanted two years, radiologist said a year, so I went in between.
 

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I had robotic prostatectomy in 2017, no ED, minimal “leakage”, PSA non-detectable.
I considered radiation but decided on surgery.
At the time I was told, radiation eliminates possibility of surgery if it re-occurs in the future. If surgery done first and re-occurs, radiation can be used at that point.
Big picture, I don’t care if I pee myself a little everyday (I don’t) if it means I won’t die from prostate cancer.
 
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I had robotic prostatectomy in 2017, no ED, minimal “leakage”, PSA non-detectable.
I considered radiation but decided on surgery.
At the time I was told, radiation eliminates possibility of surgery if it re-occurs in the future. If surgery done first and re-occurs, radiation can be used at that point.
Big picture, I don’t care if I pee myself a little everyday (I don’t) if it means I won’t die from prostate cancer.
My story is exactly the same had surgery in 2017 possible margins. Didn’t go with radiation..so far so good. Just posting to say boys get PSA checked and if you’re 45 and your PSA is 3-4 that’s not in range that’s in range for a 75 year old ..your doctor probably won’t tell you that follow up.
 
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thatsbaseball

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I had robotic prostatectomy in 2017, no ED, minimal “leakage”, PSA non-detectable.
I considered radiation but decided on surgery.
At the time I was told, radiation eliminates possibility of surgery if it re-occurs in the future. If surgery done first and re-occurs, radiation can be used at that point.
Big picture, I don’t care if I pee myself a little everyday (I don’t) if it means I won’t die from prostate cancer.
I used the same strategy in 2012 and did eventually need radiation also. The main progress I've seen in the last 12 years has been in the areas of imaging with PSMA tracers and the ability to use that imaging to treat specific tumors rather than nuking a whole area. The systemic treatment (ADT) has been tweaked but is basically still chemical castration just like it was in 40's when was started.
 

Darryl Steight

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Start sooner. Get your physical yearly once in your 30’s. They are already checking other stuff in your blood, tell them to check the box that checks psa. It’s zero extra work.
I hate to sound too stupid on this topic, but are you saying that you can do only the bloodwork check of PSA and trust that? I thought that's what the... uh... finger was for. Because if I don't need that 'test', Bruce and I are going to have to have a little talk.**
 

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I hate to sound too stupid on this topic, but are you saying that you can do only the bloodwork check of PSA and trust that? I thought that's what the... uh... finger was for. Because if I don't need that 'test', Bruce and I are going to have to have a little talk.**
Correct. PSA is a bloodwork check. Bruce was probably just giving you the special.
 

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I hate to sound too stupid on this topic, but are you saying that you can do only the bloodwork check of PSA and trust that? I thought that's what the... uh... finger was for. Because if I don't need that 'test', Bruce and I are going to have to have a little talk.**
Not only was the finger blast unnecessary, there are people that argue PSA tests do more harm than good, causing a lot of unnecessary treatments and decrease in the quality of life with no proven decrease in mortality. No clue how fringe that opinion is, but just really wanted to stress just how much Bruce wanted inside you. It's flattering for you when you think about it.
 
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I hate to sound too stupid on this topic, but are you saying that you can do only the bloodwork check of PSA and trust that? I thought that's what the... uh... finger was for. Because if I don't need that 'test', Bruce and I are going to have to have a little talk.**
Actually having both done is the best IF the doctor is experienced and knows what he's looking for. Realize when the doctor does the finger he is feeling only one side of the prostate and may miss something . Also when the tumor becomes palpable it also possibly advanced. ALWAYS get your PSA checked .
 

thatsbaseball

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Not only was the finger blast unnecessary, there are people that argue PSA tests do more harm than good, causing a lot of unnecessary treatments and decrease in the quality of life with no proven decrease in mortality. No clue how fringe that opinion is, but just really wanted to stress just how much Bruce wanted inside you. It's flattering for you when you think about it.
If I've learned nothing else about PC I've learned the most important thing you can do is learn as much you can about the disease because your thoughts/desires for treatment will be asked for at some point. I'm not saying always make your own decisions per say but inform yourself to the point that you understand your options.
 

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If I've learned nothing else about PC I've learned the most important thing you can do is learn as much you can about the disease because your thoughts/desires for treatment will be asked for at some point. I'm not saying always make your own decisions per say but inform yourself to the point that you understand your options.
Yea, the little I've been exposed to information on it, it seems like you get the most divergent opinions on it compared to other diseases/treatments. I've never had reason to look into it, but I've still heard doctors I don't think are quacks say the screening ranges from excessive to completely unnecessary to those saying it's life saving and the more the better. I heard one doctor on a podcast say he believes that the false negative rate for needle biopsies is well over 40%, because he believes that if you took enough needle biopsies of most men over 50, you'd find some non-aggressive cancer that would likely never cause a problem and he believes most "successful" prostate cancer treatments are removing those type of cancers with significant negative side effects that degrade quality of life.

I'm probably butchering that, but I do believe it's hard for most doctors to weigh preventable death against quality of life. If you save one life and give 5 men ED and bladder control issues unnecessarily, that's probably a good tradeoff. Giving 9,999 men ED and bladder control issues unnecessarily to save one life is an obviously bad tradeoff, but I don't know how doctors draw the line in between those, particularly when patients would probably draw the line in very different places even assuming they had perfect information about how bad or not different outcomes would be.
 
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