One thing UK still has that gonzaga never will is maximum exposure. Every single game we have is on National TV and I haven’t even seen the zags play once this year. Their conference schedule is as bad as there is in the country. Not taking anything away from them as they are a great program and this years team seemingly may be the best in the country, just stating the obvious.
Hunter Sallis
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I have not been able to see what Barbee offers UK as well over many years now...and Bruiser Flint his pedigree away from Cal hasn't been eye opening. But isn't Jai Lucas and Justus the new blood asst coaches that recruit?
In the end, I think we make way too much of asst coaches in b-ball. The head coach has way more swing on overall team success and recruiting than asst coaches do.
How dare you say Gonzaga will be good. They are in a conference all to themselves. They are the only team on the west coast. Mark Few is an average coach at best.
Just a few of the ridiculous things I've been told on these boards about Gonzaga. They are building themselves a solid reputation and something they have that we don't: consistency.
I’ve watched em play 5 or 6 games. Most all their out of conference matchups were on national tv between noon and 8pm. Was pretty easy to catch em.
Got that bright blue stadium. Tbh every game this season has looked awful on camera, like they have the sharpness and contrast turned up to max
I say get Podziemsky, Skyy Clark and the best 2G transfer available (40% 3pt. shooter who is also athletic enough to play Div. I) and go to war. Let Podziemsky and Clark learn to play without having to be relied on for big minutes, and watch them turn into real players as sophomores.
At most zags will have 3-4 high profile games per year in out of conf. No one going to be tuning in to watch them play any conference opponent. They really need to petition the pac 12 for a jump as their conference not doing them any favors.
If Sallis doesn’t see that he’s needed on this team or doesn’t think he can beat out Askew then maybe Gonzaga is the place for him. That’s a place where he can grow as a player at his own pace and have very little pressure on him since they usually have upperclassmen.
Morning Col.
Good to see you over here amongst us crazies once in a while!
Sallis could also look at our current roster, and see we're going to have several returning players, one of which was a top25 guard in Askew, and also 2 guards coming in who will likely be 2-3 year players.
Isn't this what we wanted?
Isn't this what we wanted?
I want the best recruit he can get and if they leave for the draft then on to the next guy. Cal has to find a guard that can drive past his man and Askew isn’t that guy. Even Cal said after the game that Askew plays better once he gets the ball out of his hands instead of just standing around dribbling at the top of the key
Few doesn’t stand and yell at the players the entire game. Makes it a lot easier to play and concentrate on what u learned in practice. Cal was like a maniac against LSU. Trust me these young kids notice that and most don’t want it. It is totally unnecessary. That being said , we won’t get Sallis anyway. We have no one who can close the deal on these top players.
But I thought we as a fanbase wanted players to stick around? That we wanted to recruit the sub top15 guys in hopes they play for 2-3 years. Because we got Askew and Allen for returnee's next year, who will only get better, along with Hickman and Hopkins to get groomed for their sophomore and junior years. I was told that's how you win championships.. With Sallis going elsewhere, let's see if it works.
IMO point guard is so important in Cal's offense that it's the one position that he needs a star type talent.If we have him we can build a team with experience around him.
Very true. But when you get a star guard, who has the ball in his hands, you're not going to keep him for long. Maybe a 2nd year if he doesn't pan out.
Hunter Sallis isn't going to Gonzaga to be groomed and play 3-4 years of college basketball.
So which is it? We hated guys leaving early and screwing up roster consistency. Ok. So now we have two guys slated to return and two more guys coming in who will stay for several years. That's what many here wanted, isn't it?
You can't keep John Wall for 4 years. Hunter Sallis is not the answer. I'm being facetious, obviously, about the fanbases demands.. But I do prefer what may be a solid foundation, over having Sallis for a single year, who might have the same struggles as many guys did this year.
Sallis will probably be backing up the Florida transfer I would imagine so no pressure on to perform great from the start. Every fan wants different things but I want the best players available and go from there
Maybe the Hollingsworth kid at WKU will elect to play another year at UK. Cal really botched up that recruitment.
Sure....but I am not sure that is what is going to happen.
PG - Askew/Hickman
SG - I dont' think Terrance Clarke is going to be at UK next year...we'll see/maybe Skyy Clark reclassify....or maybe we pick up the white kid for Wisky
SF - Allen/Toppin
PF - Ware/Hopkins
C - Tschweibe/Collins
We'll see what Cam Fletcher is going to do....I'll lean transfer at this time
People dreaming of Brooks, Clarke, Jackson, Boston coming back...maybe they will but until Cal shows that trend is changing...these guys are going out the door as fast as they can no matter what in most instances.
So that roster above isn't going to do much better than a team fighting to get a 4-5 seed and one of Cal's "we'll see if we can make a run" stuff. Still lacks floor spacing, who knows if they have high b-ball IQ and play off one another well, etc... And after that year concludes Askew will look to leave (when he's clearly a 3-4 year player), Tschwiebe/Collins will leave, etc.. and we'll be back on roster merry-go-round.
If you were a 3P shooter line Podziemsky why would you want to come play in Cal’s offense? I don’t think he will.
I really don’t think that helps is at all and probably hurts after this year. I’m pretty sure the Zags are going to get 5 or 6 games on national tv when it matters most in late March while we will be setting home watching them.
The reason I would is because (1) UK needs 2Gs (although he certainly has the size to play and defend at SF also); (2) there is nothing about Calipari's offense that prevents shooters from taking all the good 3 pt. shots they get; and (3) as a shooter, I would rather play for a team with Bigs that can score on the interior instead of Bigs who float around the perimeter taking my shots when I know darn well I'm making that shot a lot more often than they are.
I think the criticism that UK needs more & better shooting 2Gs & Wings is valid and on Calipari. But, I believe much of the problem is due to 2Gs & Wings who can't shoot - very often the result of being freshmen - not because Calipari doesn't allow them to shoot or open shots are not available. I think the real problem with shooting is usually overlooked, and that is we don't have enough guys who can make 3 pt. shots at a clip (or they haven't got used to the speed of the game and take too long to get their shot off even if they're a pretty good shooter) that makes it advantageous to tailor an offense around it. In my opinion it's a roster construction and retention problem, way more so than an offensive scheme issue.
When they cut down the nets for the first time we can call them crazy good. All they’ve been over the years is overrated. Just like DePaul in the late 70’s early 80’s. Go thru regular season 28-0 Lose in second round.
Ok bare with me, I clearly missed something......been hammered with work lately. What's the story on why Justus cost us with Sallis? TIA
according to @ralphdaltonfan Justus has fumbled the recruitments of Sallis and Hardy.
returning players are wanted & needed, but they must have some talent...….Allen can score if given the opportunity Askew does not posses the quickness for point guard, & can't shoot well enough to be a 2 guard. Hopkins & Hickman are not the answer either. Hopkins, is a short forward & Hickman isn't the jitterbug, quick guard needed. Neither is noted for their scoring ability...…….again the same problem that has hurt UK for most of Cal's tenure...….consistent scoring, especially the inability to hit the 3 pointer
sure wish he would let us know exactly what happened in those 2 guys recruitment to go from leaders to the cellar
In Justus' defense, Hardy will go G-League and Skyy is better than Sallis anyway. I know they're different classes now but they won't be.
A reclassed Skyy is in no way better than Sallis. Maybe if Skyy stays in 22, but if he reclasses he would be around number #20, while Sallis is a top 10 player.
IF Hardy does go G League, that made Sallis all the more important
No idea if Skyy is better than Sallis, but of the videos I have seen, Sallis is much quicker & looks to be a decent scorer
Specifically Hardy last year when he was about to commit on night ESPNU telecast his game against Bishop Gorman.
As for Sallis....it's not looking good. Justus needs to step up and land someone of elite status and outside his "comfort" level as a guy/coach. Leave it at that. Sallis is his chance, so hopefully he proves the latest info wrong and lands a big fish, but based on his previous time here and the trend since he's elevated to full time Assistant, I'm not expecting anything good to happen.
tell me if i have missed anything
some of our posters ***** about the OAD and are now bitching because we miss on a OAD player
that same group has/is bitching about Askew who is not OAD player and is what they have been wanting Cal to recruit
i think some just like to ***** and complain
some of our posters ***** about the OAD and are now bitching because we miss on a OAD player
that same group has/is bitching about Askew who is not OAD player and is what they have been wanting Cal to recruit
i think some just like to ***** and complain
I think the lack of consistent scoring and 3pt. shooting is directly related to your first point, that we need more returning players. Add a OAD (2 at the most) if needed, but you can't build a core with those guys.
I can't say for sure how Hickman and Hopkins will turn out. I don't know their work ethic, competitive drive, etc. But, from what I've seen, Hickman and Hopkins look to be very good high school players and more offensively skilled than the recruits we normally get at the PG and PF positions. I really believe that Hopkins and Hickman (and Askew and Ware) are exactly the kind of recruits we need every year to build a core. They are all expected to be upperclassmen - and good upperclassmen with skill generally outperform freshmen athletes. You may prefer jumping ability or length or speed, but if I have to choose, I'll take skill instead - especially if I only get the "superior" athlete for one year. Besides, both Hickman and Hopkins have plenty of athleticism to go with the higher skill too.
You’re not implying that Justus should offer something to Hardy or his entourage that he doesn’t feel comfortable with, are you? Other staying in touch with the kid I don’t know what else you can do other than make promises or offer something shady.
It's all our fault!
The **** you read on here. Couldn't be the style of basketball we run. Couldn't be this good ole buddy coaching staff. Couldn't be the fact that we've ranked around 90th in scoring since 2018, and we're like 260th this year.
Nobody is buying Cal's NBA bs anymore. We've been shown ample times that kids can go anywhere and get drafted. See UGA and their number 1 pick last year. Kids want to come play an exciting brand of basketball, they wanna score points. They want to play in space. They don't want your three 7 ft bigs that can't pass, dribble, or shoot clogging the damn lane.
Agree. If he can’t create his own he won’t come here. Cal doesn’t adapt to players. They need to change or leave. His system sucks.
Not at all. I'm saying he needs to learn what it takes to land guys and not talk like he's talking to someone from Mayberry HS--using dated Cal "speak" that Cal doesn't even use at this time. Stale recruiting methods are not good for business. It's interesting how he's a good contact guy with younger players.....then it's time for an all out war on recruiting trail and UK fades...if you can't close and are always telling media how "close" you were to landing recruits you are losing and failing. It's a brutal business but '10-'15 were dominant years because the staff landed the big targets, not coming up short.