Hunter Sallis
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Seriously, how do some of you know the day to day communications between asst coaches and Cal?
***'t coaches and recruits?
Cal and recruits?
Any recruiting info I get comes from this board and other boards. Just wondering how some guys seem to know the things I just mentioned. People like seccats04, Son of Saul, Runninrichie to name a few. All of these people seem to have a low opinion of our assistant coaches and of Cal. Have I made a mistake of mostly ignoring people on this board and their inside recruiting knowledge.
***'t coaches and recruits?
Cal and recruits?
Any recruiting info I get comes from this board and other boards. Just wondering how some guys seem to know the things I just mentioned. People like seccats04, Son of Saul, Runninrichie to name a few. All of these people seem to have a low opinion of our assistant coaches and of Cal. Have I made a mistake of mostly ignoring people on this board and their inside recruiting knowledge.
You’re twisting words. We've had success keeping guys for 1-2 years, but last time I checked, Askew is a freshman and Allen is a backup that didn't play last year.
You would have a point if Hagans and Quickly returned, but they didn't and guess what, even if Askew stinks it up next year, he ain't coming back for a 3rd year.
THAT'S what we have been saying. You’re being condescending, like Askew is coming back for his junior season, when that hasn't happened yet and you know it won't happen.
So right now, not only is Cal NOT getting transcendent kids, but the ones he is getting are projects that leave long before we get to see them at their best. He's getting lower rated/less talented/ lower IQ players and he’s STILL losing them before their balls ever drop.
Also, not only is Mark Few able to retain talent through their junior/senior years, he's now taking our best recruits from us. We're being punked at our own game by Gonzaga.
So, in your world, you either get a John Wall (which is fine) or Devin Askew, who is a 4* kid with no athletic ability and who will only be here for 2 years max? That's all we have for choices?
That's like saying we either get #1 recruiting classes or our only other choice is Tubby type recruiting. You’re being disingenuous.
Why can't we get a kid like Askew that sits and learns under Tyler Ulis, Hagans or a Junior/Senior Devin Askew type player?
Look at Villanova. Conor Gillispie played behind Arcidiacono, Brunson and several other great guards and is now a senior who is running the show. Is that not another way to do it? Why does the "Askew" type player have to come in and bear the weight of the season his freshman year? He should be playing behind a junior Hagans right now, but this is UK, where that doesn’t happen.
My only complaint is evaluating some of the talent brought in. I’ve wondered the same thing as far as what goes on during in home visits and such unless the player is letting that info out. UK has had the top two recruiting class damn near every year Cal has been here, so they must not be doing to bad a job now if they can find the right fit then all is well.
Hagan's and Quickly did return. Along with EJ and Richards. And despite Hagans being a headcase, it was a year that only saw 6 losses, we were on a roll, and going into the tournament as a 3-seed.
Askew, Allen, Ware, Fletcher and Toppin aren't going to the NBA, and I don't think they'd transfer, knowing that they have roles defined next year because the class is, as you guys wanted, not filled with 1ADs.
It's going to take time. No one should be surprised that moving away from 1AD type recruiting (whether by Cal's design or not) was going to be a tough, multi-year transition. As I;ve said time and time again, give it some time. We're seeing rosters that are filled with several guys who should be coming back. We saw that in our 2019/20 year, one of Cal's more experienced teams here.
Jesus christ, he's a freshman. Don't close the book on him in a shortened season when it's only January..
Well, first of all, you’re taking a comment that one person said and comparing it to what someone else said, but acting like the same person said both things.
But, like I said to line ski, you’re being disingenuous. If you're going to roll with Askew level recruits, fine, but make sure they stay here for 4 years. Here he is as a freshman being asked to bear the weight of the season on his shoulders instead of playing behind a junior Ashton Hagans.
So, when Askew leaves after 2 years, you won't be over here saying what is quoted above. Instead, you'll be saying we were right. Because what's happening is, we're getting lower rated kids that have low skills, an AAU mindset, no length, no athleticism and a low bb iq and we're STILL losing them after 1 or two years.
For all we know, Devin might just transfer after this season. Then what?
LMAO, so Hagans and IQ made it all the way to their sophomore years and that's good enough for you? You think that's how it should go?
Hagans wasn't going to the NBA either, but here we are trying to play a season with a kid that isn't good enough to run point and should be playing behind AH.
You would have a point if we were actually seeing Hagans still on this team or if this was 2023 and Askew was still on the team. You’re shooting your wad way too early here.
Honestly, I don't most of the time. I see you quote me, a ton, and in the first paragraph is something like "Cal hates his fans" or "seriously I've had ENOUGH of this team for the last time".. followed up with a lot of projecting. You've probably noticed most of the time I don't even bother trying to argue. Once in a while, like today, I'll play along.. but mostly it's too exhausting.
If you can't see that we're moving towards keeping some players around, or that a big reason why Hagans left was because he's a headcase.. then we have nothing more to discuss.
Hmm, what have I said that was false?
Also, I don’t recall saying the things you alluded to above.
You’re funny lol. You think rankings are accurate. And BJ was top 10, hahahahahahaha. Skyy is much better than Sallis, bank that.
They go into every NCAA TOURNAMENT not having played a quality opponent in over two months.
Go back and look through the last 5 years, and let me know when a reclass has played to their potential. The only one I know of is Bagley and it is much harder than a reclassed PG.
Maybe if he stays in 22, he's young for his class in 2022 as it is, he would not be great if he reclassed, but he would if he stayed in 22.
But it doesn't hurt them, they almost always play to or over their seed. Their ooc is crazy good every year also.