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Redscarlet

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Just like Pelini couldn't make tackles for his linebackers right? How ever you slice it....and dice it, it falls on the head man. 35 three point attempts is laughable out of this bunch and can be directly attributed to Miles falling flat on his face recruiting the post. Make all the excuses in the world for Miles....year 1,3,4 looking like under .500. What will your excuse be for him next year?

Again next year has nothing to do with the out come tonight.....Miles didn't lose the game.
 

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Again next year has nothing to do with the out come tonight.....Miles didn't lose the game.
Last I checked this loss goes on Miles record...no? His team shoots 27% from the field, half of their attempts from three land, and two brutal possessions out of a timeout and you think Miles deserves zero blame? Laughing Agreed, this outcome has zero to do with next year. You will come up with a whole new excuse for our struggles next year. Now excuse me while I go watch Miles turn water into wine at his post game press conference.
 

Redscarlet

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Last I checked this loss goes on Miles record...no? His team shoots 27 from the field, half of their attempts from three land, and two brutal possessions out of a timeout and you think Miles deserves zero blame? Laughing Agreed, this outcome has zero to do with next year. You will come up with a whole new excuse for our struggles next year.

How did Golden State do last night?

Blame the Coach for that right... :rolleyes:
 

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How did Golden State do last night?

Blame the Coach for that right... :rolleyes:
Ahhh yes, a team coming off a world title compared to a team about to go under .500 for the second consecutive year. I tell ya what..if Miles can win a national title I will never criticize him again. Hell..if he can just win a math madness game I won't question him. Until then...I'll leave the excuses up to you while you watch each game with thru red glasses. Nice comparison BTW!Laughing
 

Redscarlet

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Ahhh yes, a team coming off a world title compared to a team about to go under .500 for the second consecutive year. I tell ya what..if Miles can win a national title I will never criticize him again. Hell..if he can just win a math madness game I won't question him. Until then...I'll leave the excuses up to you while you watch each game with thru red glasses. Nice comparison BTW!Laughing

Your the only one that is blaming Miles for the loss, a few others besides myself don't think like you...
If fact if Nebraska would have won tonight you sure wouldn't be crediting Miles for the win on the board tonight.
 

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Your the only one that is blaming Miles for the loss, a few others besides myself don't think like you...
If fact if Nebraska would have won tonight you sure wouldn't be crediting Miles for the win on the board tonight.
Dam right I wouldn't...we were brutal tonight. Now had we have been successful out of timeouts with plays drawn up by Miles..then yes, I would be saying kudos to Miles. But that didn't happen. And I refuse to be delusional like yourself. Can't wait to hear your excuses in year 5.
 

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Either you believe Miles is going to advance Nebraska to the next level or you don't. I believe he's the right guy and I simply won't question him until this class of freshman are seniors.
 

Redscarlet

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Best player out of the game for NU and that was my excuse and I'm delusional....
 

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The money was heavy on tOSU who bet the game points were -1 1/2 at one place and - 2 on the others at Nebraska playing at home....

Had buddies that bet and everyone was betting tOSU.
 

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The money was heavy on tOSU who bet the game points were -1 1/2 at one place and - 2 on the others at Nebraska playing at home....

Had buddies that bet and everyone was betting tOSU.
Everyone betting on Ohio St with minimal line movement? Doubtful. Either way...tack on another home loss for Miles. I know I know..you thought it was brilliant that we shot 50 percent of our shots from three PT land tonight. Miles takes zero blame for another year likey under .500.
 

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You act like Miles was suppose to finish in the top half of the B1G this year when they were picked to be in the bottom 4.

Just because this is his 4th year doesn't mean this wasn't a rebuilding year because it is.

Tell me what's TM have to do too satisfy you record wise next season.
 

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You act like Miles was suppose to finish in the top half of the B1G this year when they were picked to be in the bottom 4.

Just because this is his 4th year doesn't mean this wasn't a rebuilding year because it is.

Tell me what's TM have to do too satisfy you record wise next season.
Ahh yes the ole...we were predicted to suck so the coach gets a pass BS! Typical Nebrasketball fan. Miles at the very least needs to take next years team to the NIT. Anything less than that and it's another failure for him. Year 6 he should be dancing or get his walking papers.
 

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Everyone betting on Ohio St with minimal line movement? Doubtful. Either way...tack on another home loss for Miles. I know I know..you thought it was brilliant that we shot 50 percent of our shots from three PT land tonight. Miles takes zero blame for another year likey under .500.

Without Shields and no post presence we have to try and shot with White who struggled the majority of the night.
 

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Without Shields and no post presence we have to try and shot with White who struggled the majority of the night.
Now tell me..whose fault is it we have zero post presence and where will that be coming from next year? So what you're saying is we better hope Gill can replicate Shields production next year right...at the very least?
 

Redscarlet

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Miles at the very least needs to take next years team to the NIT. Anything less than that and it's another failure for him. Year 6 he should be dancing or get his walking papers.

I agree with that and that is what I expect with my red colored glasses you gave me.
 

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Now tell me..whose fault is it we have zero post presence and where will that be coming from next year? So what you're saying is we better hope Gill can replicate Shields production next year right...at the very least?

I can also bring up Morrow being out too and he was starting to come on before he had planter fasciitis.
 

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When we are shooting this bad from every spot on the floor, including the free throws, it falls on the players 100% Theres no dam play Xs and Os wise any coach can call up if our guys are bricking every shot. Im not for Miles or against him, there are some losses that fall in his lap but this game falls on the players for an off night shooting. We could have Phil Jackson and we'd still lost tonight.
 
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Miles and his dumbshit T's are tiresome. It's good Osborne hired him, so the excuses can continue endlessly.
 
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Talking about Shields, WTF??? It's basketball not football, get your butt back on the floor! 10 years ago he would have played the next game! Pussification of our new generation!
You win the prize for "biggest redneck idiot" on the board for the week.
 
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Does nobody remember where we were before Miles? I don't like losing, but the team has drastically improved since he took over. And recruiting has been good.
 

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When we are shooting this bad from every spot on the floor, including the free throws, it falls on the players 100% Theres no dam play Xs and Os wise any coach can call up if our guys are bricking every shot. Im not for Miles or against him, there are some losses that fall in his lap but this game falls on the players for an off night shooting. We could have Phil Jackson and we'd still lost tonight.
My guess is Phil Jackson could land a big man and recruit a team that could get some easy buckets. But...I know I know, Miles is god. We all know it's not his job to recruit a team that can shoot the ball
 

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Does nobody remember where we were before Miles? I don't like losing, but the team has drastically improved since he took over. And recruiting has been good.
Miles is making double what Sadler made. If Doc Sadler was the bar we are setting to too low. Credit to Miles for taking us to the dance already...but finishing under .500 in year three and likely in year 4 is not good. Big year for him in 2017.
 

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Miles is making double what Sadler made. If Doc Sadler was the bar we are setting to too low. Credit to Miles for taking us to the dance already...but finishing under .500 in year three and likely in year 4 is not good. Big year for him in 2017.

And it's a good bet that the next Head Coach will start out making more than Miles does if he doesn't succeed in the proper time frame and he will have the same problems the previous Head Basketball coach's have had in recruiting the top blue chippers to Lincoln.
 

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And it's a good bet that the next Head Coach will start out making more than Miles does if he doesn't succeed in the proper time frame and he will have the same problems the previous Head Basketball coach's have had in recruiting the top blue chippers to Lincoln.
No need for blue chippers. You must not watch must college basketball. I can name you many mid majors that have adequate big men. At this point...just using all of the allotted scholarships will be a win for the two million dollar man.
 

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No need for blue chippers. You must not watch must college basketball. I can name you many mid majors that have adequate big men. At this point...just using all of the allotted scholarships will be a win for the two million dollar man.

Blue chippers is a figure of speech unless you want a sleaze Head Coach like Rick Petino or John Calipari that cheat to win at all costs... No matter who gets hired in Lincoln is going to be a up hill battle...

Realize Miles has not used all his scholarships up and agree that is on him but he has some of the best facility's in the country and did have a good haul of recruits with these 4 true Freshman and he needs time to build what he has and that is getting a few more players to compliment this class.
 

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Blue chippers is a figure of speech unless you want a sleaze Head Coach like Rick Petino or John Calipari that cheat to win at all costs... No matter who gets hired in Lincoln is going to be a up hill battle...

Realize Miles has not used all his scholarships up and agree that is on him but he has some of the best facility's in the country and did have a good haul of recruits with these 4 true Freshman and he needs time to build what he has and that is getting a few more players to compliment this class.
We will see...the rest of the Big Ten is not going to stop recruiting. It's going to take more than that..and I'm not sure Miles will get it done in the X's and O's department when it comes down to it. I hope he gets it done....but I would be surprised at this point.
 

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Miles is making double what Sadler made. If Doc Sadler was the bar we are setting to too low. Credit to Miles for taking us to the dance already...but finishing under .500 in year three and likely in year 4 is not good. Big year for him in 2017.

What does his pay have anything to do with it? His pay is based more on the coaching landscape (and that he has been wildly more successful than Doc). I don't understand any arguments about a coaches salary unless it is crazy out of whack (cough, cough Ferenz).

You make it sound like turning the program around is something easy. Miles has taken a team that was bottom two in any P5 league and brought them up to the middle of the pack. In a few short years (with a tournament bid in there too). Building this will take time and there has definitely been progress.

I just don't get the Miles hate. Does he have things to work on? Yes. But he has turned a dumpster fire into a team that is, at the very least, watchable and respectable.
 
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We will see...the rest of the Big Ten is not going to stop recruiting. It's going to take more than that..and I'm not sure Miles will get it done in the X's and O's department when it comes down to it. I hope he gets it done....but I would be surprised at this point.
Did Miles kill you puppy or something? What gives. Both Morrow and Shields are out and we had an unexpected early departure last spring of a 6-9 to 6-10 post player. What do you want him to do? We played what, 4 freshmen most of whom along with Morrow are going to be really good players before their career is over. You were noticeably absent after Miles beat MSU (again) on the road. We're going to be a pretty darned good team IMO next year with Gill added to the mix.
 

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Did Miles kill you puppy or something? What gives. Both Morrow and Shields are out and we had an unexpected early departure last spring of a 6-9 to 6-10 post player. What do you want him to do? We played what, 4 freshmen most of whom along with Morrow are going to be really good players before their career is over. You were noticeably absent after Miles beat MSU (again) on the road. We're going to be a pretty darned good team IMO next year with Gill added to the mix.
Noted...so when we fail to go dancing I can't wait to hear your excuse. Again...we were favored to win without both mentioned players. I was not on this board for weeks during January because I was out of the country. Nope...Miles didn't kill my puppy but like I said...I won't make excuses for him like you and some others will. He needs to do better..starting next year. Pitchford was a "post player"....sure maybe in theory. I would not really put him in that category. Had he stayed we would still have the same issues and we will still have and RPI in the mid 100's.
 
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What does his pay have anything to do with it? His pay is based more on the coaching landscape (and that he has been wildly more successful than Doc). I don't understand any arguments about a coaches salary unless it is crazy out of whack (cough, cough Ferenz).

You make it sound like turning the program around is something easy. Miles has taken a team that was bottom two in any P5 league and brought them up to the middle of the pack. In a few short years (with a tournament bid in there too). Building this will take time and there has definitely been progress.

I just don't get the Miles hate. Does he have things to work on? Yes. But he has turned a dumpster fire into a team that is, at the very least, watchable and respectable.
What does pay have to do with it? Not sure if serious.....We are middle of the pack in the Big Ten? News to me. Miles took us to the big dance which was huge because it landed him Morrow and Watson...his record is pretty similar to Docs. We heard the same thing out of Doc lovers..."building will take time"....in college basketball you shouldn't need 7 years. If he can't get it done in the next two years it's highly unlikely he ever will. I like most of the talent that has been brought in...but yes, I will be surprised if our name is called come March in those years.
 

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So what you're saying is we better hope Gill can replicate Shields production next year right...at the very least?

Gill, Roby, Horne > Shields and Parker.

We heard the same thing out of Doc lovers..."building will take time"....in college basketball you shouldn't need 7 years

Except, Doc never brought in the talent Miles has, you're forgetting that part. You're right, 7 years isn't needed. Miles is in year 4, soon to be 5. He'll have his best starting line-up next season with actual depth on the bench, and I'm not talking bodies.
 
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What does pay have to do with it? Not sure if serious.....We are middle of the pack in the Big Ten? News to me. Miles took us to the big dance which was huge because it landed him Morrow and Watson...his record is pretty similar to Docs. We heard the same thing out of Doc lovers..."building will take time"....in college basketball you shouldn't need 7 years. If he can't get it done in the next two years it's highly unlikely he ever will. I like most of the talent that has been brought in...but yes, I will be surprised if our name is called come March in those years.

This year they are currently 9th out of 14. 7th and 8th is exactly middle of the pack. So yeah, 9th is middle of the pack.

Miles and Sadler have similar records, but Miles has been in a better conference and has a better conference record. I also don't hold his first year against him due to having no talent.

Please explain to me why miles salary matters to the discussion. He is the 8th highest paid coach in the B1G. If he was the highest, then you have a point. But he is paid in the middle of the pack and his team is middle of the pack. I don't understand the issue????
 

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Gill, Roby, Horne > Shields and Parker.



Except, Doc never brought in the talent Miles has, you're forgetting that part. You're right, 7 years isn't needed. Miles is in year 4, soon to be 5. He'll have his best starting line-up next season with actual depth on the bench, and I'm not talking bodies.
I would take Miles over Doc a million times over. I have high hopes for Gill but I'm going to wait and see because had issues at Louisville. The good news is Mikes has done a really good job with transfers. Other Big Ten schools are bringing in elite talent. Miles is going to need to retain and develop the talent brought in. I do think Watson, McVeigh, and Jacobsen are better than they were game 1. That needs to continue if we want to dance the next few years. Maybe it's just the Nebrasketball in me but I don't see us being a tourney team in those years. Would love to be wrong though as the mediocrity gets tiresome.
 

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I would take Miles over Doc a million times over. I have high hopes for Gill but I'm going to wait and see because had issues at Louisville. The good news is Mikes has done a really good job with transfers. Other Big Ten schools are bringing in elite talent. Miles is going to need to retain and develop the talent brought in. I do think Watson, McVeigh, and Jacobsen are better than they were game 1. That needs to continue if we want to dance the next few years. Maybe it's just the Nebrasketball in me but I don't see us being a tourney team in those years. Would love to be wrong though as the mediocrity gets tiresome.

IMO, next year is without question an NIT team, just on paper alone. Pending the conference schedule, very well could be a bubble team as well. Where Miles screwed up, and I believe he would admit it, is recruiting early on. Too many failures and he's (we're) paying for it. He definitely picked it up in the last 2 classes, seems pretty obvious with the group of freshmen currently playing.

Yep, other B1G teams bring in elite talent too. The difference is though, for the first time, so is Nebraska...
 
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huskerbaseball13

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I would take Miles over Doc a million times over. I have high hopes for Gill but I'm going to wait and see because had issues at Louisville. The good news is Mikes has done a really good job with transfers. Other Big Ten schools are bringing in elite talent. Miles is going to need to retain and develop the talent brought in. I do think Watson, McVeigh, and Jacobsen are better than they were game 1. That needs to continue if we want to dance the next few years. Maybe it's just the Nebrasketball in me but I don't see us being a tourney team in those years. Would love to be wrong though as the mediocrity gets tiresome.
9th is not middle of the pack. And we need to find ourself at the very least in the top 7 to get where we want to be most years. Lastly, we had a very easy conference slate this year compared to what we will see most years. Link to Miles being 8th in Big Ten for salaries? Would certainly surprise me....but I don't know the other coaches salaries. You compared Miles to Doc...pretty simple really, he's making double what Doc did. With that comes with higher expectations. If we are cool with struggling at home, not making the postseason, getting our *** beat by Creighton on a yearly basis then maybe we should allocate that extra money added to Miles salary to the football program.