Huskers are just one big dysfunctional family
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Well. He did play in the 90s... so he is an expert in everything. #bringbackthe90s #boundssaidso
Apparently, old drug, steroid and alcohol abusers are a better judge of talent.
Weird how this works, thread has potential...
Weird how this works, thread has potential...
Also it sounds like Riley met with Rimington today and it sounds like the IADDR lectured Riley on the importance of the walk on program. We may have something groundbreaking here.
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Does anyone really think there are not enough walk ons??? WTF is going on? This is freaking ridiculous. If any of them had a clue they would concentrate on why we have a shockingingly terrible number of 4 year contributors on this team. What a freaking joke.
No need to get worried about this, I think things just got lost in translation. Clearly Dave lectured Mike on the ills of giving all those walk ons scholarships and how they have lost the drive that made them special. He let him know he needed to pull the scholarships from all the former walk ons, thus returning them to their status as homegrown 5 heart players. GBR! MNGA!Winking
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Yeah, why was Riley giving out so many scholarships to walk-ons? Could those not have been used on...I don't know...scholarship players?
Of course he could… And many Riley supporters have said as much as well. Not sure what fight you’re starting to pick this time…
Not a fight. The guy above mentioned the six (?) scholarships for walk-ons. Just wondering why we didn't recruit players to use some of those.
I think we currently have a very healthy walk on program.
Sorry I was joking, this was not meant to be serious, just a smart *** comment trying to make light of the meeting. I did not do a good job of indicating the sarcasm. Would I like for MR to fill all the scholarships, hell yeah. But if they don't I don't have a problem with them giving a senior walk on, who has worked his *** off, a scholarship so it doesn't go to waste sitting there for a year. I don't have a problem with this staff's approach to recruiting, we are going up against some heavy hitters who have been in a better situation than we have in the last 20 years. In this scenario you are going to lose some of the battles and I would rather it benefit a hard working homegrown kid, than go to waste on a 2* stretch like it did to often with the last regime.
Edit: Forgot to mention, eventually they need to start winning these recruiting battles, but first we have to reestablish ourselves among the elite. Then we can start coming out on top more often.
To me, it sounded like Rimington has been away from the Husker program and not paying much attention or reading the articles that we have on Riley's walk-on program
Maybe Riley should have let old Dave know the staggering amount of walk ons that have been playing while Riley's been here and tell him to pound sand.
No scholarships for walk-ons, that damn Riley is ruining the walk-on program! Dem cornfed boys deserve it!
Don't fill up the 85 allotment, Riley can't recruit! Look at the leftover scholarships, unacceptable!
FTR, I'd prefer the allotment is filled on signing day and attrition in the spring and summer opens up spots for deserving walk-ons.
Don't fill up the 85 allotment, Riley can't recruit! Look at the leftover scholarships, unacceptable!
FTR, I'd prefer the allotment is filled on signing day and attrition in the spring and summer opens up spots for deserving walk-ons.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say we did recruit players for those scholarships... but since Riley is such an average recruiter, some of those recruits went elsewhere, if you can believe that. The nerve of those recruits...
The problem with this whole thread is the word LECTURED. Rimington isn't a guy that LECTURES a man on anything. No doubt they TALKED about the walk on program in their lunch meeting and that's fine. Dave has some catching up to do. SO, now we have a thread where people are arguing over DR "lecturing" MR on the walk on program when IT DIDN'T HAPPEN in the first place. C'mon guys.
No offense, but if the walk on program was even discussed, the meeting was a colossal waste of time. The reason Mike Riley doesn't have 24 wins instead of 17 isn't because we don't have enough players paying their own way to school.
A better topic would have been how much money Riley will be afford to give to the Boomer Esiason foundation.
A better topic would have been how much money Riley will be afford to give to the Boomer Esiason foundation.
I don't doubt that DR was prompted by somebody in the administration to mention the walk on program on his list of things he wanted to look at just to appease some letter writers (or email senders). I don't believe anybody who is sound of mind believes it was a major converstion piece in their discussions. For heaven's sake I hope to heck Riley doesn't take it to mean we have to try to PLAY more walk ons. We probably have too many playing now.
Mike, scratch the Foundation a nice check and I will put the good word in for you with the next AD.
Dave looks at check.
Mike, you need another zero on there.
Dave looks at check.
Mike, you need another zero on there.
Rimington never said there wasn't enough walk-ons like almost everyone in this thread has presumed. He says wants to help fix it. Maybe he means upgrading walk-on talent or a taking different approach on how to get some of players that now go to South Dakota St. & North Dakota St to stay and walk-on at Nebraska. Bo screwed up a lot relationships with some of the HS coaches in-state. Maybe Dave can help Riley with that.
I think we do a good job right now with the walk on program. People need to realize that the world has changed. A lot of kids who go to SDSU and NDSU as mentioned above, go there on a full ride. Back in the day that wouldn't have happened, but it's a different era. Now with 85 schollies, and rising cost of schooling, kids will go where they can play and go for free. They days of getting the elite talent out of NU to walk on are pretty much over. There will be exceptions, but economically it's better to go elsewhere.
First, how does someone know there was a lecture? Who spilled the beans on this lecturing that was handed out? That wording seems to be a bit of posturing. Jason Peter and Trev might want to lecture Riley...that's not Dave's game.
Second, I'm sure Dave's perspective is that the walk-on program was a great help to Nebraska in the past. While there were a few shining stars that developed from walk-on status, the biggest part of the walk-on program was the depth that it helped to provide. Walk-ons were given plenty of reps as freshman and sophomores on the practice field and some of them grew into their positions as their skills increased and their frames filled out. They weren't people that were just thrust into positions because some schollie guys didn't work out.
IMO opinion this difference can be seen even in how we talk about walk-ons today. This board bemoans most walk-ons being on the two deep because it means the kids with stars didn't live up to their potential. In the Osborne era I never heard this about walk-ons. People talked about the walk-ons putting in the hard work and effort on the field and in the weight room to earn the job. This caused a pride in having walk-ons contribute. I can't remember the last time anyone had talked about pride in having walk-ons playing.
Third, this isn't a "Riley" problem. It extends back to Callahan and probably even Solich. Now maybe people like Dave need to understand a strong walk-on program that the players and fans take pride in is not possible anymore. That's a debatable issue. However, let's not act like because we have some walk-ons playing today that the "walk-on program" is going strong.
Second, I'm sure Dave's perspective is that the walk-on program was a great help to Nebraska in the past. While there were a few shining stars that developed from walk-on status, the biggest part of the walk-on program was the depth that it helped to provide. Walk-ons were given plenty of reps as freshman and sophomores on the practice field and some of them grew into their positions as their skills increased and their frames filled out. They weren't people that were just thrust into positions because some schollie guys didn't work out.
IMO opinion this difference can be seen even in how we talk about walk-ons today. This board bemoans most walk-ons being on the two deep because it means the kids with stars didn't live up to their potential. In the Osborne era I never heard this about walk-ons. People talked about the walk-ons putting in the hard work and effort on the field and in the weight room to earn the job. This caused a pride in having walk-ons contribute. I can't remember the last time anyone had talked about pride in having walk-ons playing.
Third, this isn't a "Riley" problem. It extends back to Callahan and probably even Solich. Now maybe people like Dave need to understand a strong walk-on program that the players and fans take pride in is not possible anymore. That's a debatable issue. However, let's not act like because we have some walk-ons playing today that the "walk-on program" is going strong.
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Agree.
In the early 80's, they were pretty common on every team...including NU.
Ironic... you lecture people who weren’t there for calling it a lecture, and then you lecture us with what you think was said even though you weren’t there.
Made me chuckle...
I think we are splitting hairs here with the lecturing vs talked to about that walk on program. The fact of the matter is that the walk on program should be the least of the worries with this program right now. The fact that he even had to speak to Riley about the importance of the walk on program and that Riley even had to defend the fact that NU carries one of the larger rosters in football is a complete waste of time, especially in a short week. It reminds me of the scene from Tommy Boy where Tommy goes down to the loading dock to try to figure out some of their shipping problems:
Tommy: R.T., I think I figured out the problem. This order is going to Columbus. That's a one-day delivery, but you've got it marked down for two.
R.T., Shipping Foreman: That's because it's going to Columbus, Georgia. Not Columbus, Ohio.
[he shows Tommy the shipping address]
R.T., Shipping Foreman: You see these letters by the city? That's called a state. What else you got, Wonder Boy?
Tommy: Uh... that's pretty much it for now.
.T., Shipping Foreman: Hey, Tommy, maybe you should go back to college for another seven years and study a globe.
Tommy: R.T., I think I figured out the problem. This order is going to Columbus. That's a one-day delivery, but you've got it marked down for two.
R.T., Shipping Foreman: That's because it's going to Columbus, Georgia. Not Columbus, Ohio.
[he shows Tommy the shipping address]
R.T., Shipping Foreman: You see these letters by the city? That's called a state. What else you got, Wonder Boy?
Tommy: Uh... that's pretty much it for now.
.T., Shipping Foreman: Hey, Tommy, maybe you should go back to college for another seven years and study a globe.
You obviously don't know Dave Rimington at all. It's fun to be snarky. But be snarky about something you know about. It's obviously not Dave and not walk-ons.
Take it easy, it was just funny to me. You don’t see the irony? Sorry, next time I will try to stifle my laughs.
And for the record, I never said anything about DR, I’ve never had the pleasure of meeting him.
If you read the board, it's fairly obvious that I can take it.
From what I heard Remington's point is that it used to be a big part of our identity and success. Years ago almost every other coach and program said that a solid walk-on program wasn't worth it. (No one else had the focus we had and that is why it was our identity.) So Dave wanted to emphasize that he thinks it can still be possible regardless of what the naysayers say. (Thank goodness Osborne never listened to the naysayers.)
I will just tell you the big topic, however, was physicality. (Now is the time for all your roid jokes as we cover up what might be the #1 problem with this team.)
From what I heard Remington's point is that it used to be a big part of our identity and success. Years ago almost every other coach and program said that a solid walk-on program wasn't worth it. (No one else had the focus we had and that is why it was our identity.) So Dave wanted to emphasize that he thinks it can still be possible regardless of what the naysayers say. (Thank goodness Osborne never listened to the naysayers.)
I will just tell you the big topic, however, was physicality. (Now is the time for all your roid jokes as we cover up what might be the #1 problem with this team.)
Maybe its time to emulate Wisconsin they seem to whip our butts every year and they have great success with walkons
http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2017/...ies-walk-ons-get-their-shot-at-wisconsin.aspx
It's sarcasm. If you go to his Twitter he is completely blasting people who say that.
Which proves the point he is an addict who can't be trusted to prove one measured point. Not 1. Guy shouldn't pretend to be credible. He lost that privilege years ago...
This whole conversation is silly. Everyone knows we should be focusing all of our turnaround energy on the county scholarship program. Bringing it back will solve at least half the problem.
