Tongs or thongs? I’m asking for Bob.
I am going to say it.....
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My advice, get on with your lives and live it!! Stop worrying about PSU football because you have absolutely no control over who gets hired. Be a fan and cheer the boys on no matter what. Also, forget about Franklin, he served his purpose at PSU and is no longer a part of PSU. Time to move on and live your lives and enjoy friends and family and any other goals you are in control of.
This is either the work of a genius or the work of someone over their skies. Time will tell.
Seems like some here would rather see a hire, any hire, be announced then get the right guy.
Outside of LSU getting Kiffin, and as much as it pains me to say, Franklin to Virginia Tech, the rest of the announcements have been very ho-hum and uninspiring. The class had already fallen apart and we’re Franklin‘s guys anyway.
If Kraft got his guy, as I suspect he did, I am sure they promised to open up the NIL war chest to go get portal guys.
I will be first in line to come back and eat crow if I am wrong on this, but I would rather be positive and trust that we will get this right then assume we got it wrong with no real knowledge. We are!
Outside of LSU getting Kiffin, and as much as it pains me to say, Franklin to Virginia Tech, the rest of the announcements have been very ho-hum and uninspiring. The class had already fallen apart and we’re Franklin‘s guys anyway.
If Kraft got his guy, as I suspect he did, I am sure they promised to open up the NIL war chest to go get portal guys.
I will be first in line to come back and eat crow if I am wrong on this, but I would rather be positive and trust that we will get this right then assume we got it wrong with no real knowledge. We are!
I preferred to have a coach named yesterday or today. Waiting and withholding my opinion of the job Kraft did until the new HC is announced/introduced.
Even doing that, there's still plenty of time left over to cringe about the upcoming Al Golden press conference. Could have been Fitzgerald, but we waited too long and now he's at MSU.
You people are being stupid. If anyone thought there would be a hire before yesterday you're an idiot. Lets discuss the obvious. Do we want a Lane Kiffin situation here? If not, then you aren't getting a coach before next weekend because he's still coaching. The problem isn't Kraft, its the NCAA and the way this is set up. Signing day should still be in February. I knew this would be a problem, IF Kraft is hiring a man with integrity. The bigger problem...what if the next coach is in the National Championship game. At that point it wouldn't have mattered when they fired Franklin.
So you think that PSU is getting a Conference Championship and/or Playoff coach? I surely don't.
Just wonderful. Hire a coach who has no connection to the Northeast or Midwest and has coached almost exclusively in Utah and most of whose players are a partiuclar religion so will be unlikely to transfer.
Has she seen Bob in a thong? Is that why she said no?
Feels to me that nobody wants to work for Kraft. How many candidates have we gone through? If you think about it Penn State's coach took the team to the the semi finals of the Playoff last season. He won 10 or more games each of the last 3 season. Yet, when the team hits a bad patch, he gets fired. Every team hits a bad patch. Ask Clemson. Did we need a change? Yes we did. It was just all handled wrong. Did Kraft fire Franklin emotionally out of spite, because Franklin tried to go around him for a raise? To me it felt like there was no replacement plan. Feels like Kraft figured that money and Penn State's history and reputation would have coaches breaking down the door. Doesn't appear that way, does it? Because this process has taken so long our once really good 2026 recruiting class has been gutted. The day Franklin got fired that class was rated #13. Today ON3 has them at #83. With only 7 recruits still committed. The 2027 class was #1 with 6 commits. Today we have no commits from that class. Here's hoping this has been a great plan and Kraft has a great coach lined up to be hired soon. Seriously I hope that. It certainly doesn't feel that way. I'll show my bias...I have wanted Bob Chesney all along. If not him then I hope Terry gets his shot. Time will tell.
Fair point. Could be either, could yet be both (or neither). Truth is we really won’t know until we see what kind of product the new guy puts on the field.
That seems to be the only explaination other than pure incompetence. Keep in mind that may include Diaz. I’m not as enamored by Diaz as HC as I am as a DC, but I guess they could do much worse (Fitzgerald).
Oh no---6--2027 recruits decommitted. Franklin could not coach after NW---he became a cancer.
And Kemon Spell was a stone cold lock to come here after his verbal, right?
If the next coach is Hartline, Chesney, Diaz, Deboer (just because he was brought up not because I think he's in play), or even a coordinator of a playoff team why on earth would they announce before their conference champ games? Or the playoffs for that matter? Do we want the type of guy that would bail on his team right before the playoffs/CCG?
Who has been hired at this point that PSU has missed out on? Sumrall? Is he really that much of a miss? Kiffin was never coming here.
Who has been hired at this point that PSU has missed out on? Sumrall? Is he really that much of a miss? Kiffin was never coming here.
No she actually wanted both tongs and thongs. I said no, it had to be one or the other for reasons of saving $ for NIL. I asked for thongs, she said no. Negotiating is a *****. I think I’ll knock off now and have a beer.
Regardless of who gets hired, timing is an issue. The recruiting class is gone, and the roster will potentially be devastated in the transfer portal. Even the most competent individual will not succeed if put in an impossible situation. Sort of like asking the best bucket brigade firemen in the world to put out a fire in a skyscraper. I've no idea who is on Kraft's list or what are his ultimate plans. If the ultimate goal is to win a national championship, the most likely options are: 1) the young up and comer, who has won while rising up the coaching / division ranks, 2) someone who has proven that they can build a national championship program, or 3) The veteran coach who has been overlooked, underestimated or ignored for whatever reason.
Too many of the candidates presented by the media have proven themselves to be good but not necessarily great coaches. The, "they have done so much with less" mantra often reveals that their best attribute is the management of scarce resorts. The more resources that they are provided introduces inefficiencies in how they are utilized. Our most recent head coach (not Terry Smith) was perhaps an example. It seemed that the more he was given, the further away we were from a championship.
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sNot now, but if this drags past the signing day and then it is someone from across the country that has never been out east, then those are grounds to get canned. If he did botch this, money will dry up and we are going to be stuck with a HUGE bill for the stadium renovations.
No, but a good poker player knows odds and odds would say if a coach misses an entire signing day, that isn't a good thing. We were already looking at a record # of portals. Now subtract 25 from that (or add in this case) and you are looking at 60-70 players from the portal.
That would be like Colorado under Deion Sanders part deux.
Thank You for a voice of sanity. Amazing how some are jumping off bridges here already. People need to relax. I believe Kraft has his guy and had him all along. Credit to the few inside the tight circle for not letting the name slip out. Literally everyday so many "reporters" are throwing darts saying this coach has risen up and is now the leader for PSU. Honestly there probably has been about 12 coaches who were at one time the odds on favorite to be the next coach. No one has any idea at this point other than Kraft and a few others. It's comical watching everyone guessing literally everyday.
The maximum allowable time frame - to avoid a conclusion that the "search" was FUBAR - passed this past weekend.
At this point, no matter who is eventually signed, a lot of avoidable and unnecessary collateral damage was incurred.
That said: Not having control of the organization/program - dating back to before October 12th, and every day thereafter - and not regaining it immediately thereafter, is the bigger problem realized to date, IMO
Obviously (I think this much is obvious) the bigger /biggest issue is getting the "right" guy - one who will have the skills necessary for success. Whether that happens becomes increasingly less likely by the day - barring some unintended serendipity.
At this point, no matter who is eventually signed, a lot of avoidable and unnecessary collateral damage was incurred.
That said: Not having control of the organization/program - dating back to before October 12th, and every day thereafter - and not regaining it immediately thereafter, is the bigger problem realized to date, IMO
Obviously (I think this much is obvious) the bigger /biggest issue is getting the "right" guy - one who will have the skills necessary for success. Whether that happens becomes increasingly less likely by the day - barring some unintended serendipity.
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The sooner you come to realize there were none to begin with, the less upset you will be. Firing Franklin was always going to come with a lot of risk, but this year Franklin forced Kraft to make the move.
You should go in the record and be the first fan to call for his replacement to be fired too.
Spend some time in Tuscaloosa and you’ll understand why somebody would/might consider leaving what’s known locally as "T-town."
He's recruiting with one arm tied behind his back. If you're a player, are you committing without having any idea who your coach will be, from the head coach all the way down to your position coach? Hell no.
Think of all the ‘non losing’ 6-6 seasons he could have at Penn St! The standard is the standard.
