Yep. And there are others who also wanted Chesney. I actually would have liked DeBoer but that was never really in the cards. Chesney is the rising star. Sitake will be 8-4 in perpetuity in the Big Ten. We may as well have gone after Farentz or stuck with Franklin. National championship with this guy? Delusional.
I am going to say it.....
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Oh, you wanted him to act as a competent AD and earn his paycheck rather than in a self-serving, pompous little baby whose ego was bruised? Could not have turned out any worse for PSU's roster and recruiting class. His snap, emotion, ego-driven decision was utterly unnecessary and caused massive damage while gaining nothing other than allowing pompous Kraft to bloviate about bringing in a new coach, his guy, whose going to win National Championships. What an f'ing joke.
I'd fire myself, but honestly, I'd never hire me to begin with.
What makes him "a raising star"?
Why is Sitake's ceiling 8-4?
What is this based on--what you believe? That has no meaning--noe.
Florida and Auburn fired coaches mid season. Both hired “non home run” coaches. Fire those AD’s!!!!!
Isn't Sitake 22-3 the last two years? I know it's not the big ten, but other folk like Chesney also haven't won in the Big Ten.
That what I don't understand...and they have a legit shot at the playoff...I doubt many complaining have ever watched BYU under him
Guy is excellent. Tough I think people are concerned because he has no history west of the MS.
He has never been worse than .500Agree with your first statement but not Tomlin.6-6 would be generous. More like 5-7 at best.
Ben Roethlisberger carried him for years. So overrated. He won a Super Bowl in his second year with Cowher’s players and it’s been downhill ever since. I’m not saying he is terrible but he hasn’t won a playoff game since 2016 coaching for one of the most stable organizations in sports.
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It seems he passed over a few very good candidates looking for that Grand Slam hire. This is beginning to take on the look of failure.
My guess is the name has slipped out. Right along with every other coach since Rockne, so it was dismissed as speculation. Time will tell i guess.
I guess Kraft told Chesney he isn't needed, so im guessing he has his guy and its big (or big enough).
How on earth could he possibly miss on Chesney? How do you lose to UCLA when he grew up just East of State College? Krafty The Clown was publicly vociferous of Franklin - it's time for Krafty The Clown to take a look in the mirror regarding complete & utter failure.
just as likely Chesney decided he didn't like our situation and took what he felt was the better job
Is that why there are multiple credible reports that he's talking to Sitake??? Not that's he signed Sitake, but trying to negotiate with him (or more probably his agent). There are now reports that BYU is in negotiations with Sitake trying to keep him. A classic opposite of the age-old saying of "One in hand worth more than two in the bush".... so if Krafty let Chesney get away to UCLA (who was obviously signable), just so he could get Sitake a large pay-raise and contract extension at BYU, he's proven yet again what an absolute tool, clown and empty-suit failure he is.
Because Sitake was the plan A. It was just kept quiet for a long time. It was rumored for a while there was a mystery candidate and media couldn’t not figure out who it was so they ran with everything else.
There was really only two sure winners and neither Saban or Meyer were coming. After that every single one of them is rolling the dice. This guy’s record is simply as good as any at P4 and better than any OC or position coach.
I wanted Smith but I like this direction and Smith will still be here as our best performing position coach as he has been.
So when Sitake signs a contract extension with a huge pay raise with BYU (who, it has been reported, he is currently in negotiations with), we can Officially label this latest bs homerun hire, and Krafty The Clown, a failure??? LMFAO that this was the plan all along - just positively hysterical.... and you a-holes want to ramble on-&-on about what a failure Franklin was??? Franklin had lightyears more success than this clown ever has. Krafty is the definition of an incompetent empty-suit executive.
I totally get your frustration, and I agree that this thing is headed south like a Bullet Train. Now the question is where do we go from here because Sitake is off the board as it sounds like he's staying at BYU.
Hartline is finally going to get his interview so that's a possibility. Brohm? probably not because he's a Sexton coach. I don't see Sexton allowing any coach he represents to go to PS. He'll just go out and get them the best extension he can get them at their current university just to stick it to Kraft and PS for No Game James Franklin.
IMO Terry Smith may end up being the Last Man Standing.
Very simply---HE NEVER WANTED HIM....why can't you understand that Kraft is actually getting who he wanted. Every insider has been wrong for the last 7 weeks
Lmao. Chesney didn’t choose ucla over Penn state. Kraft obviously has someone he likes better. These posts are comical
This search has been about 1 things and 1 thing only. Power. We have an AD that constantly wants to show everyone how big his stuff is and how tough of a guy he is. He sits on the sideline or the bench like he is a coach. He cheers like a mad man to show everyone what he can do.
For the record, I thought it was time to fire Franklin. However, I said it before and I will say it again. Kraft should have had a plan in lace and SIGNED before he did so. Many on this board told me I was crazy and nobody does that. Well, how does my thought resonate now. We are currently the laughing stock of college football with an AD that obviously over played his hand. What else has he over played? Is the Adidas deal real and as good as he says? Will he even be around to see the completion of the stadium renovation?
And he did this to himself because HE HAD NO PLAN IN PLACE!!!!!! He promoted Terry with the thought it would be status quo and he could wait until the end of the year and he could say "of course we will look at terry".....and then Terry caught fire and again PK was left with his pants at his ankles looking like a foot because he had no intentions of hiring him. And now because of that, he can't circle back and simply offer Terry.
FIRE PAT KRAFT! He is a clown and Penn State Football has become a circus because of him.
For the record, I thought it was time to fire Franklin. However, I said it before and I will say it again. Kraft should have had a plan in lace and SIGNED before he did so. Many on this board told me I was crazy and nobody does that. Well, how does my thought resonate now. We are currently the laughing stock of college football with an AD that obviously over played his hand. What else has he over played? Is the Adidas deal real and as good as he says? Will he even be around to see the completion of the stadium renovation?
And he did this to himself because HE HAD NO PLAN IN PLACE!!!!!! He promoted Terry with the thought it would be status quo and he could wait until the end of the year and he could say "of course we will look at terry".....and then Terry caught fire and again PK was left with his pants at his ankles looking like a foot because he had no intentions of hiring him. And now because of that, he can't circle back and simply offer Terry.
FIRE PAT KRAFT! He is a clown and Penn State Football has become a circus because of him.
Exactly and we also don't know who interviewed and those that did Kraft may have saw red flags and not a good match for PSU and passed. We will have no idea who officially interviewed and who didn't. It's not hard to see who Kraft took a hard pass on....
Again how do you know he didn't have a plan in place. Clearly you'd be ok with hiring someone with no integrity like Kiffin. Only a moron would think he didn't have a plan...yes that includes you. And this was always what the plan looked like.
We haven't lost Chesney. If we can't get things to work with Sitake, then we might end up with Chesney after all.
The whole "Kraft is a failure" or "Fire Kraft" things are so bizarre at this point. This search has gone pretty much exactly how I would have expected (and other level-headed people would have expected).
It's funny that so many have this "Kraft fired Franklin too quickly and without a plan and without enough thought, so now we need to Fire Kraft today" thing happening.
I am a moron? How did MSU fire Smith and have Fitz an hour later.....oh yeah, because they had A PLAN IN PLACE you ****.
And if you think this is what a plan looks like, I am sure most, if not all, would not be calling me the moron.
He had a plan alright, a plan to fail. An arrogent man that thought all he had to do is offer someone and they would come running to him. Not how this works pal. It is basic administration 101. Before you make a move you better have the next move already completed. This aint a job as the school nurse at Bellefonte Middle School where people get to turn in applications and you sit down and read the apps. This is the CEO of a major company.
I am not sure is Kraft is married but if so this has to be his wife.
I would love to fire Kraft.....but not without his successor already lined up and ready to go. You know, like Kraft should have had. This isn't Lock Haven where the AD, and the VP of Business, and a few other coaches sit and look at resumes and then maker a decision.
And so you would have limited yourself to only unemployed coaches? Or waited until the season finished? (Personally, I would have liked to wait, but get why we did it when we did)
So lets get this straight---you think you aren't a moron but aren't willing to admit you have no idea who is main target is. Why did he have a plan to fail? Because he didn't hire who you wanted? Because he didn't hire them in the time frame you wanted? Clearly he is hiring a guy still coaching. He knew the risks and was willing to take them. Thats what CEO's do. You know what they dont do? Settle because of internet rumors. Lets put it this way. If he waited until Sunday to fire Franklin---which everyone would have known was coming so his agent would have had VT already lined up. We would still be in the exact same place we are today---ya know why? Because that class would have waited to sign and went with JF any way. And Kraft also knows the Portal is way more imprtant then signing day and he is more than likely hiring a guy who understands that.
Oh and BTW---Fitz wasn't coaching anywhere which means he could be interviewed at anytime but an existing coach can't without permission during the season.
No, but you have a list of people that say they will take the job if offered. Not sure why this idea is so difficult. None of the open jobs had true searches. So you are saying yesterday, and yesterday alone, Will Stein was on ESPN, saw that Kentucky let stoops go, polished up his resume, and sent it in? That's Kooky Talk.
Reading through all of this, a lot of people on here need psychological help.
And if Kentucky was shooting higher, they’re likely in a bidding war/tug of war like we are in today. But they were willing to drop down a level and take Stein. I’m glad we’re shooting higher.
The need many have to insult somebody just for having a different opinion is a sign of the times.