I am kind of thinking that if AK doesn't get canned today....

DowntownDawg

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...he may not get canned at all. What are you going to do? Fire him three weeks later? Are you really going to let him coach a basketball game and then fire him? Looks like Kennedy is going to survive if he coaches tonight.
 

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...he may not get canned at all. What are you going to do? Fire him three weeks later? Are you really going to let him coach a basketball game and then fire him? Looks like Kennedy is going to survive if he coaches tonight.
 

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...Kelvin Sampson coached a couple of games under fire before being ultimately fired. I could see him coaching tonight and then being fired.

I honestly don't see how he survives this. If he does, he's going to have to do some pretty humbling things along the lines of public apologies and possibly attending rehab.
 
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What that "more" is, I'm not exactly sure. You have people in Cincy claiming he didn't do it, and supposedly Chuck Rounsaville talked to someone and has a version of the incident, and is supposedly going to post it soon.</p>

In all seriousness, if Boone didn't fire him after the meeting, then there's probably more to the story.</p>
 

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....he is going to take some serious heat all year long. I don't see it either, but I can't believe they would let him coach tonight. What if he is found innocent? The other guy is going to take the blame I'm sure.
 

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There could very easily be more to the story than we've heard and/or what we've heard may not be entirely accurate.
 

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<h4>Here is what I have learned about AK incident. . .</h4> _________________________________________________ <div class="messagebody"> AK and staff wanted to get in a cab ourside of a Cincy establishment. The cab driver said "only four riders in one cab." Andy and four others found another cab and got in. The cab driver pulled up next to the cabbie who had turned them down and the two drivers got into a heated verbal exchange. Andy told the the cab driver to pull over and let them out. He refused, locking the doors from the inside and drove off with AK and four others in tow. There was a verbal exchange demanding he unlock the doors and let them out. Two blocks later, he pulled over. The cabbie demanded payment - the passengers refused and an argument ensued. The cabbie called assistant coach Torey Ward a racial slur. After more verbal exchanges, another cab was hailed and the coaches were headed to the team hotel when the police pulled them over and arrested AK.

The eyewitness I have talked to said all the charges are absolutely incorrect and the cab driver's account is filled with lies.

AK and Pete Boone met this morning and Boone was satisfied Kennedy was telling the truth. Reportedly, it will be business as usual tonight at the game, with AK in the lead chair.

There is supposed to be an official statement from the school shortly. AK has been advised by his legal counsel to not say anything to anybody.

Naturally, we were not there, but we trust our source that this is the account of how things went down in the unfortunate incident. </div>
 

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..fire him now, you admit to the public your basketball coach is an unhinged alcohol abuser. It makes the school look bad & probably tanks the 2008-09 basketball season in the process.

...fire him later, & UM begins to develop the reputation of a school with no moral compass. (Not to mention the verbal abuse Kennedy will receive from student sections when SEC play begins).

...try to spin the story in Kennedy's favor (i.e., "It's all just a big misunderstanding") & it looks like you are engaging in a cover-up.

If there is an upside for Ole Miss here, please tell it to me.

Because I don't see it.
 
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We'll find out soon enough which is right and which is wrong. I think its somewhere in the middle where Bill Armstrong was wasted, the cabbie started the incident, AK had enough words for everybody in the cab, and I haven't decided if he punched him or not.</p>
 

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...sounds pretty ridiculous to me. But the fact of the matter is that nobody will believe the cab driver because he's a nobody. At the end of the day, it will just be something to rag Kennedy about in the Hump. Embarrassing situation, but that's probably about it, I'm guessing.
 

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...Kennedy needed to get in just enough trouble to scare other schools off, but not enough trouble to get him fired.

Mission accomplished?
 

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Please keep this story alive for as long as possible. Please keep the focus, not on the fact that your entire BB staff was in the Cincy red light district at 1 a.m. getting shitfaced on the night before your biggest game of the season, but on the actions of "that racist bastard cab driver."

Stay classy oxford.
 

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If the cab driver had gotten into a verbal confrontation with the other cab driver who refused to pick them up, wouldn't that be part of the report?
If the cab driver locked the doors and would not let them out, shouldn't he be facing charges as well? Where is that report?

All of this doesn't explain what Kennedy, et. al were doing out drinking on the night before a game out of town. I assume they were staying in the same hotel as the team. Drunken coaches responsible for a college basketball team on a road trip.
 

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The man hasn't even been to court. Are we letting the media decide who is guilty and who is innocent now? The PC Jackboots are running this country now. Be careful what you say because we are under a media facist regime of speech control and intimidation. There was a time when a person got his day in court. Now a person only gets his clip on the media and are declared guilty by the court of the facist liberal jackbooted media.
 

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AK went out and got roasted less than 24 hours before a huge basketball game.

Isn't that enough?
 
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The police report is what is told by the "victim." Why would he include all that stuff in the report, as it would look bad on him and would likely clear AK?

And the news reports are going off of the police reports.

Who is going to file the report about the cab driver? The guy that just got accused of assaulting said cab driver?
 

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Is Chuck the slightly overweight guy who wears under armour? Or is that a different ole miss internet guy? I met one of them a few years ago at an Orgeron practice and I cant remember.
 

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If someone locked the doors and had refused to let me out, you are damn right I would press charges even if I was under arrest. Kennedy would be a victim, by his own story and be able to press charges.

Again, the most damning part of this is the fact that he was out and about at 1:45AM on an out-of-town trip.
 

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Stansfield said:
The man hasn't even been to court. Are we letting the media decide who is guilty and who is innocent now? The PC Jackboots are running this country now. Be careful what you say because we are under a media facist regime of speech control and intimidation. There was a time when a person got his day in court. Now a person only gets his clip on the media and are declared guilty by the court of the facist liberal jackbooted media.
Kennedy is not a politican the "facist liberal media" is trying to hurt in order to fullfil an agenda.

He is a college basketball coach out late at night acting an ***, and it was reported.

So you think everybody should cool it until Kennedy has his day in court?

Do you know what it will do to Ole Miss's image to have its basketball coach having to schedule practice around court appearances?
 
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In fact, every time I've ever seen him he had a cap on.

I think he wears glasses as well.
 

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unlikely. Worst case, he will plea out and take a ******** anger management class. His attorney will handle it all.

I would hate to be the poor motherfrcking cab driver who is involved in all this ****. Next to Huggins, Kennedy is beloved by most of the working class joes in the Queen city. Whether he started this **** or not, he might as well move on back to Dumbfuckistan and by a herd of goats, because his life just became unmitigated hell.
 

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Wow, I think you drastically overestimate Andy Kennedy's popularity in Cincy. He isnt that big of a deal there.
 

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that cabs are NOT like cop cars in that you CAN unlock a cabsrear doors with your own hands. KNOW Cop cars have to be opened from the front but cabs? Sure they're like any other car in you can open them yourself from the back seat
 

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That's my problem with it. I wouldn't call this our biggest game of the year, because we're going to get stomped one way or another, but anyway, even if Kennedy and staff were not at fault in the cabbie incident, what were they doing out at 1 AM getting kicked out of a bar the night before a game?

That said, I know this is typical of AK, so it's not unexpected. However, it's still pretty bad that he's out the night before a game with his entire staff getting trashed enough to get kicked out of a bar.

That's the part that will get lost in the mix, and if he does keep his job and the Chuck story is true, the job will probably have to come with some stipulations.
 

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about a year & a half from now.The same way she accused the Duke guys in that bogus rape deal.
 

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DowntownDawg said:
...Kennedy needed to get in just enough trouble to scare other schools off, but not enough trouble to get him fired.

Mission accomplished?

That's part of it. Granted, I had hoped it would be something like sleeping with a co-ed (which I'm betting has happened) or getting a DUI.

And of course the other part of my dream scenario would have to include him turning out to be a great basketball coach. He hasn't proven that yet. A good coach? Maybe, but he's not proven to be good enough yet.

Essentially, I realize our basketball program's position in the pecking order, and it's worse than the status of our football program. Therefore, the best case scenario is for us to land a really good coach that has just enough baggage to scare away other schools, but not enough baggage to get fired.

It's a little bit similar to what Arkansas found in Petrino. He's a good coach with some baggage that'll keep many schools away. Or similar to what Texas Tech has in Leach, with his baggage being the fact that he's a weird dude that some ADs don't want as the face of their program. It's just that with Kennedy, the most likely possibility for baggage would be of the drunken tomfoolery variety, or the Huggy-bear variety.
 

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follow-up stories have already indicated that Jidou Whatchamaf@ck is feeling quite put upon.

Don't get me wrong, Kennedy is obviously a dick... no questions asked. I'm just saying in the popularity war between an immigrant cab driver and Kennedy, the goatherder loses.
 

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it from the outside. A lot of cabbies use that or a similar electronic feature to keep fares from hopping out at a stop light or hitting the pavement when they pulled over before they have a chance to get out. Its probably a code violation, but lots of guys do it.

A friend of mine drove hack in Boston for while working on his PhD and said that "bailing" was pretty common. The fare would give a fake address near an alley and when the cab pulled over the fare(s) would hop out and run like **** down the alley. Your choice as a cabbie is to abandon your cab and chase them or just chalk it up to a bailed fare.