I can't believe

[Todd4State]

all the players in Mississippi that we were neglecting. I hear stuff about our staff not recruiting Jackson, and it just makes me sick. And then you've got guys like Perkins and Aubrey Phillips who we are just now contacting.

I think we were focusing way too much attention on talent in Alabama and not in our own backyard.

And what would our class look like if Croom had stayed on? We would probably end up with a bunch of ex-Bama legacies that Saban didn't want.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...this was going to be Croom's first decent recruiting class.

Croom had most of the Dandy Dozen committed before he even left.

If Croom had stayed, he would have probably signed a top 30 recruiting class for 2009.

This is the best deal Mullen will get as far as his recruiting @MSU: All Mullen has to do (this year) is hold on to the Croom commitments; get rid of some dead weight like Hollingsworth; then go out & sign 5 or 6 guys that were not on Croom's radar.

Croom left Mullen in excellent shape as far as landing a decent 2009 signing class.

We will not know until next year if the media is correct when they claim Mullen is a poor recruiter.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

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[dawgphd]

.......

 

[diehard4dawgs]

We would not have been able to hold on to half of our commits if Croom was still here. Anyone who thinks that Croom was going to be able to hold this class together, after the awful season we had, is smoking crack.

 

[Coach34]

but I think the proof is right before our eyes currently. Crooms class, while he did lay the groundwork, was falling apart. Mullen has come in, solified it, and is actually making it better than Crooms could have dreamed...</p>

 

[Spotdawg]

of the Jackson Metro area has been a real sore spot for me too. We had several players here in the Madison County area who wanted to come and could have had impact on that travesty we saw for the past 5 years. Kickers, linemen, RBs and other skill people.....never contacted....never even sent a letter, much less a face to face to judge their interest. (with the exception of the in-the-bag commit from Provine.)

If anything, the youth and vigor of Mullen will at least get somebody from our program into the area and try to wrest it away from UM, TN, AL and LSU. They really work this area.....and we treated it as an toxic wasteland.

Of course, that would reflect the attitude of the prior AD...who said to my face that "Jackson area alumni will never be a big force in game attendance. Our research shows that our game day attendance comes from 90 or less miles of the MSU campus." Regardless of the fact that Jackson is the most MSU-graduate populated area of the country, he would not advertise here. In fact he was suprised that I traveled all 125 miles to make the sales call.

He would not produce the research or the provider of said research. It is no surprise that Crxxm and McCorvey would treat it any differently.

 

[Porkchop.sixpack]

notoriously absent from Madison Central for years. I don't know about this year. I am talking about last year going back through the duration of the Croom era. That's just plain stupid and lazy there.

 

[821505]

Hey Spot, Croom hasn't even been down on the coast since Katrina. Talk about being ignored.

 

[patdog]

I hear stuff about our staff not recruiting Jackson, and it just makes me sick.

The fact about recruiting Jackson is that Jackson metro area football historically sucks donkey balls. The city is pretty much non-existant as far as football goes, and in the suburbs, it's not much better.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

I hear stuff about our staff not recruiting Jackson, and it just makes me sick.

The fact about recruiting Jackson is that Jackson metro area football historically sucks donkey balls. The city is pretty much non-existant as far as football goes, and in the suburbs, it's not much better.

You do realize Fred Smoot came out of Jackson, don't you? As well as Culberson & several others I can't remember off the top of my head.

There is always an abundance of talent in the Jackson area. And that goes for both the public & private schools.

If you want to know about this year's Jackson talent, go look up the CL's Metro Dandy Dozen.

Claiming the Jackson area is consistently void of football talent sounds like something Ron Polk would say.

 

[Spotdawg]

most of the football in Jackson has been suspect. You are right....and mostly due to coaching. The athletic ability is there. One more reason to pile on to the JPS system. The worst.

To call the Brandon, Terry, Madison, Clinton, Prep, JA and other areas talent-less for the last couple of years...is just not completely true. All got into the playoffs. Uhhh, that might show some promise of emerging athletes...or is it all coaching? Wait for next year and the next couple of years for Madison Central, Brandon, and Clinton. There are some VERY strong classes to come.

Never ever recruit for the current class....you are always working 2 or 3 years ahead.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

...and in that regard, patdog's right. Jackson-area schools haven't done well in the playoffs historically. The best a JPS school has advanced was some ten years ago or so when Provine was runnerup to Madison Central (Madison Central, right?), which has got to be one of the best-ever performances by metro area schools in a season.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...Jackon Prep has kicked major *** in the academy ranks since it was created in the early 1970's. And ever so often even Jackson Academy is in the hunt.

As far as public schools, Madison Central is usually a force to be reckoned with (I'm claiming MC as a "metro area" team).

If you are going to try to make the argument that Jackson football sucks (whether individual-wise or team-wise), then you are going to lose that argument to people who know Jackson.

 

[patdog]

I've lived here for 21 years. Kicking *** in the academy ranks for the most part means nothing. You can count on your fingers the number of BCS-league school players who have come from the academy ranks in those 21 years. As for Madison Central, they had a great run a decade ago and had several great players on those teams. But since then, they haven't done jack **** until this year. They've only made the playoffs because their district has sucked *** (3-6 playoff record since the championship team until this year).

 

[Todd4State]

notoriously absent from Madison Central for years. I don't know about this year. I am talking about last year going back through the duration of the
Croom era. That's just plain stupid and lazy there.

but that could be because of Xenareb.

I have lived in Madison my whole life, pretty much. Even before Mary Hawkins took over when the only thing we had was Main St. and Sledge's and we had to go to Piggly Wiggly in Ridgeland for grocery's. So, I know a lot of the "old" people.

And for all the grief that is given to Gene, Doug Buckles WAS going to be a Bulldog. I don't know when or why that changed. His grandfather told me, who I just happened to meet by chance, and he didn't know that I was a State fan. So, there was no reason to "tell me what I wanted to hear". That was also common knowledge throughout the town at the time. And then all of a sudden he's going to Ole Miss. The rumor was that Spencer, Espy, and Bobo Brown were all going to go to the same school that Buckles went, which at the time was assumed State until Buckles chose Ole Miss.

Anyway, if you look at our probation letter, I know that Chris Spencer's uncle, or whatever was involved and Buckles was involved.

I think after all that, we decided to stay away. Which was stupid, because we actually probably could have gotten Chaz Ramsey. Oh, and Xena lives in Ridgeland, which is not in MC's zone anymore.

That's the only logical thing that I can come up with. I'm sure that RebelBruiser and friends will now come and give their versions, but this was what was talked about around the town, which I take with a grain of salt.

Anyway, whatever the reason, I sincerely hope that we go back into Madison because they have a pretty good QB named Peyton Johnson who probably would fit into Mullen's offense pretty well as a QB. In fact, he will probably be Dandy Dozen next year.

 

[ArrowDawg]

We will not know until next year if the media is correct when they claim Mullen is a poor recruiter.

...........I don't think anyone knows if he's a good recruiter or not because it was easy to get top guys to come to Florida. All I care about is that he puts a good staff of recruiters together. I think we'll have an edge from now on with at least offensive recruits because of the scheme we're going to run. If Mullen hires a good DC who can recruit players to his side of the ball, then we're set.

 

[Todd4State]

so far, I'd say that he probably is going to be a very good recruiter.

He's going after guys that we didn't even talk to before.