Yes, I am that dense. Again, be specific and explain to me how they did it. Also, explain how much we spent and where we should change.
If all you have to do is throw 21m at a bunch of 3 star players then why aren't we doing it? Why isn't everyone?
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If all you have to do is throw 21m at a bunch of 3 star players then why aren't we doing it? Why isn't everyone?
No research? You have to be sarcastic or retarded.
The last time you tried to argue this, I provided a link to Cuban himself debunking you.
You ignored it.
I spent 10 seconds googling it now, and found multiple news agencies directly contradicting you.
Mark Cuban on Indiana football spending: 'I’m like investing in an entrepreneur in Shark Tank’
Mark Cuban and Curt Cignetti were born in same hospital. That connection helped bond them and led to donations that helped Indiana football turnaround.
www.usatoday.com
And
How Mark Cuban's Multi-Million NIL Donations Helped Fund Indiana's Historic Run
Billionaire Mark Cuban has been the biggest NIL donor for the Indiana Hoosiers football team as they face Miami in the national championship.
heavy.com
But hey, you typed something on your phone. Thats so much more believable than major news outlets and CUBAN HIMSELF.
I asked you once before, ill stop picking on you if you really are retarded. Its fun to pick on idiots, but its not cool to do so to the mentally handicapped.
I think the easy answer is that you have to give more money to the RIGHT players. But picking those is the formula that everyone is looking for.
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False. I distinctly remember several other programs having Beamer’s name in their mix. Don’t ask for link blah blah; don’t care whether you ‘believe it’ or not. You can one-liner they didn’t, I can recall they did.
I read your link. A big number? Anybody can say that. I, also, read other articles where the amount that he is giving is undisclosed and he doesn't get into how IU spends the money. So, there is no tangible evidence as to what Cuban is doing and how it is impacting IU football on the field.No research? You have to be sarcastic or retarded.
The last time you tried to argue this, I provided a link to Cuban himself debunking you.
You ignored it.
I spent 10 seconds googling it now, and found multiple news agencies directly contradicting you.
Mark Cuban on Indiana football spending: 'I’m like investing in an entrepreneur in Shark Tank’
Mark Cuban and Curt Cignetti were born in same hospital. That connection helped bond them and led to donations that helped Indiana football turnaround.www.usatoday.com
And
How Mark Cuban's Multi-Million NIL Donations Helped Fund Indiana's Historic Run
Billionaire Mark Cuban has been the biggest NIL donor for the Indiana Hoosiers football team as they face Miami in the national championship.
But hey, you typed something on your phone. Thats so much more believable than major news outlets and CUBAN HIMSELF.
I asked you once before, ill stop picking on you if you really are retarded. Its fun to pick on idiots, but its not cool to do so to the mentally handicapped.
Billionaire donor + 3 star players anyone could have gotten = Natty
You must me stupid, stupid, stupid if you can't figure that out. I mean the answer is literally right there.
So again, Cuban's own words vs you posting on a message board. Easy choice.
Just to sum up how idiotic your argument is. Cuban himself admits, and outlets across the nation report on him bankrolling IU. But you want to see a specific dollar sign attached to a specific player, or you're going to pretend its not happening.
You are a very special kind of "special".
I just read where there was no specific dollar amount given for Mendoza's deal. You should rush right out to tell everyone that means he didn't really sign and play for IU this year.
I don't know a specific number, but anything I had ever seen or heard was no where near a $21 million figure for our team. We paid high to keep Sellers and Stewart. But you also realize that there was a total of 125 4 star and up players in 2025 and over 130 teams at the FBS level? So that would be less than 1/team, heck it's 2/power team. So yes, throwing that much money at a bunch of 3 stars will build a roster of pretty good players. Coogan, one of their o-linemen, was a starter on the Notre Dame team that played in the National Championship the year before and was a 3 star transfer (obviously much better than that). They pay out $21 million on 3 stars that are mostly seniors or older that also want a payday, so yes the money plays a factor in bringing in talent, even if they are 3 stars.
adcoop plays the poor guy like a fiddle. They're probably decent people otherwise, but on this board both lurker and 18 are like the little kid that runs up to someone playing a piano piece and dink dink dinks on the keys; they don't understand what's happening but they want to make noise too.
Not trying to argue, but what do you mean the poor guy. All I want to do is be pleasant and talk football and basketball, but I am not going to sit quietly and let people insult me either. I don't bother anyone, but I will confront you if need be.
Nah. He gives up and runs away soon enough. Usually linking an article or two scares him enough.
Probably. To field a competitive football team, you need a LOT of pieces to complete that puzzle. In basketball, a couple of key players can make a huge didifference. There are a lot of poorer athletic programs than us who have respectable basketball programs.
I run because I work and have better things to do than argue with you. Also, I was raised to not continuously argue with idiots. They wear you down.
And yet I'm still laughing. I think you're the one who had something go over his head.
You could have stopped there. Everything after was lame excuses and insults.
Calling someone an idiot for presenting evidence and facts while you answer with "because I said so" is laughable.
Im thinking I was close to the mark when I asked if you're retarded.
Who said shut it down? Merely 90% of ALL athletic department $ should go to 3 sports with football getting the majority. Bama, Uga, Ohio st, Michigan, etc…even Klempson could implode their women’s basketball program and the alumni/fanbase wouldn’t notice. Sorry, that’s reality. We don’t live in reality. Tanner and the bot ran the 3 programs that matter into the ground.
As opposed to the evidence you linked? Where was that again????
Lol
I'll take the direct quotes of the guy in question over your made up "because I said so" opinions any day.
A serious athletic program would have fired Beamer (End of Season), Paris (last year) and PM (last year).. its to the point I could give a care anymore
Umm, that is not correct.
Mark Cuban is the primary donor for IU football's NIL efforts, his money helped in securing players for 2025 and 2026
The man just donated 6 million for the Rugby Team. THE RUGBY TEAM.
IU is awash in money and spending it big time.
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If decisions were made on financial viability, only football would survive across the board. MBB at many others. All other sports would go away.
But..... a very trusted poster said the opposite. He said Cuban wasn't paying for any players, before saying he was only paying now after the title. And he backed it up with "because I said so".
I don't see how you can argue with that.
True and if the money we spend on women's basketball is keeping our big 3 from being successful then Uconn didn't get the memo. I don't follow basketball but last I checked the Uconn men's team is pretty good.
Nobody was talking about Rugby. Also, as i have asked before, what big name player did Indiana pay for besides Mendoza. Nobody has an answer. They just bark that Cuban is a big money donor end of story. I am sorry, I am not asking for a macro (large scale) explanation here. I am asking for a micro explanation. Break down the players. Break down where they are coming from. Break down the 4 and 5 star recruits they are getting that we can't get. Nobody has been able to do that so I don't really care that Cuban is on IU donor's list. University of South Carolina football program is not destitute. Reportedly we pay a QB between 3-4 Million, a new LT over a million while getting the the incumbent LT to come back after visiting Georgia and Miami. The USC poverty excuse just doesn't hold up to me.
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You do know that if you were truly that interested you could go ahead and do the research yourself, instead of relying on others to do it for you.
His time has come and gone. I read earlier today that he has told friends that he is happy from the sidelines now. (and rich too)
So was Frank in person. His courtside demeanor alienated everyone watching on TV or in person. In that way, Lamont was a breath of fresh air.
I also think Lamont is a good coach. He has just not been able to lure "enough" good players here. I put enough in quotes because he has brought in some good players. Just not enough on the same team.
UConn is in the Big East, where basketball is king. UConn football is an afterthought. Think UK's traditional view of football vs basketball.
I can really only think of three D1 schools that place a lot of emphasis on women's basketball, LSU, UConn and South Carolina.
It's the kid poster i had quoted. Funny story, but long. Basically, he's a sidekick looking for a new lead dog to follow since his last bromance got asked to stop posting. He's just the board's little lost puppy now.
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The only tangible argument I can think of is any diverting of NIL money away from the men's team. One could argue if we do that, our men's team is disadvantaged.
Hard to prove though.
I think that's the issue. We can't prove anything because no one knows anything......it's all hush hush. Everyone is just lashing out because our men's teams have sucked for so long.
I have been watching this **** show since 1975. For the most part, we have sucked at football long before women's basketball became good. The only sport we were consistently a national power was baseball......but Ray Tanner ruined that by leaving the dug out and pretending to be AD.
My opinion is we suck due to poor decisions, not women's basketball or lack of NIL funds. Without women's basketball, we would suck at everything.
Can't argue too much with that. It's hard to know anything specifically with how vague NIL information is. No one produces accurate databases with players and their "income".
If I was so inclined to argue though, I would say even a dime going to a wbb player is a dime we could be spending on another sport. But you could translate that to mbb vs football too.
And youre right that the sucking predates the NIL mess. It is possible that we suck at that too though.
