They already do in high school Montgomery co is one example this non sense needs to stop or you will have a shortage on coaches . Everytime a player or the interfering parents get mad and quit on a coach and go down the road to build another nest to be a pest . No player college or hs should be able to transfer with no immediate effect in the same calender year
I Hate This Era
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I tend to agree.
And during the season, I’d rather watch veterans play than a bunch of Freshmen learning how to dribble, pass, and shoot at the college level.
Bud, that’s not at all what the facts show. On avg, those who attend college expierience far wealthier and happier lives. That’s not to say it’s for everyone or you can’t be successful and happier without it. Just, for many, it’s an investment that pays exponentially throughout their lives.
However, I 100% agree the kids should take full advantage of a situation that’s been screwing kids for decades.
Just listen to yourself. You think it’s stupid a person who’s actually doing the work getting paid is stupid. I’m assuming you work for free?
But, but, but, the universities are allowing the athletes to take online classes that work towards diploma, that MIGHT help said athletes get a decent job 4 years from now... That should be ENOUGH!?! Why do they need actual money?? And they get to eat at the school food court FOR FREE TOOOOOO!
And let me be clear, this isn’t a left vs right thing. The Supreme Court voted 9-0 on this. This is an old people screaming at the clouds thing vs what’s right and just.
Understand your question but for me, the answer lies in society. I just happen to come from an era where a handshake meant something, being loyal, doing a good deed for a stranger, all because it is who you are inside. Today we have turned into a "me, me' first society and looking at this NIL, what would you do if you went into Malones with your wife, order their top of the line steaks and when you got them, they were tough, your waiter was bad, you been eating without anything to drink waiting on your server to refill it.
You would complain. You would not want to pay for your meal.
You pay some kid 2-3 million to play basketball/football or whatever and they play like crap, whey as a fan who paid several hundred dollars for tickets are you not entitled to a refund?
It's called accountability. That is what lacking in this NIL landscape.
In a free market, you give bad service and people will stop coming to your place. Players who demand this sort of pay should be held to the same accountability as the guy who goes to work in the coal mine, steel mill, assemble plant, etc.
We give 2-3 million to a player who is only going to be here one year and only here for the money but the student who is going to school to be a specialist in say, physical therapy and goes thousands of dollars in debt to pay for that education and one day could be the person who helps you get back on your feet. Why not pay them as well?
Market forces dictate all of what you’re talking about here. You might not like it but good luck getting everyone to agree with you.
I understand your sentiment and feel the same way. My enthusiasm has waned, but I will still follow and watch the Cats.
Perhaps now, in this day and age, it is simply totally unrealistic to expect players to care as much about the school and program as I do. I'm certainly learning to accept that, but find it sad to see collegiate sports become this way.
Think how bad you'd hate it if you wasn't a Kentucky fan. We are blessed to be in a position where NIL actually helps us field top 10 team every season.
The product is better than ever and the portal era is going to be a windfall for UK.
Just thinking out loud: Is there a chance that NIL distributions will soon include performance-and-results incentive BONUSES for TEAM ACHIEVEMENTS like League Regular Season Crown, League Tournament Crown and, OF COURSE, various levels of success in the NCAAT ??? All players on team to participate in the distribution of this bonus money.
Coaches have always had such bonus provisions and clauses ... !!!
Gotta go earn those BANNER$$$ !!!!
Coaches have always had such bonus provisions and clauses ... !!!
Gotta go earn those BANNER$$$ !!!!
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I actually like it; it's more interestingly in the off-season than before. Also, I think it favors UK for a couple reasons:
1. It favors schools that can spend money and UK is one of those schools.
2. It puts more complexity into roster construction which favors the smarter coaches and UK has one of the smartest coaches.
1. It favors schools that can spend money and UK is one of those schools.
2. It puts more complexity into roster construction which favors the smarter coaches and UK has one of the smartest coaches.
This era is great. That is if for now on you don't want to see Cinderella in the NCAAT but every once in a blue moon.
This past tournament is probably what we are going to see 4 out of every 5 seasons going forward. One team not from the SEC/ACC/B10/BE/B12 will be lucky to make s16 and even luckier to reach the E8
Question is will that end up costing the tournament viewers. Could that eventually have an impact.
Sweet 16
SEC- 7
Big 18- 4
Big 12- 4
ACC- 1
The other 26 conferences minus a handful of teams like Memphis are now basically a developmental league for the P5 conferences. Is that going to always be sustainable?
This past tournament is probably what we are going to see 4 out of every 5 seasons going forward. One team not from the SEC/ACC/B10/BE/B12 will be lucky to make s16 and even luckier to reach the E8
Question is will that end up costing the tournament viewers. Could that eventually have an impact.
Sweet 16
SEC- 7
Big 18- 4
Big 12- 4
ACC- 1
The other 26 conferences minus a handful of teams like Memphis are now basically a developmental league for the P5 conferences. Is that going to always be sustainable?
Viewership was way up. Cinderella stories are fun, but the truth is that more people cheer for big schools, and more people watch when a bunch of big schools advance.
Bonus is that you tend to get better basketball deeper into the tournament.
I agree. Think about these 3 hypothetical tourney games:
1. UK vs a Cinderella
2. UK vs Duke
3. Cinderella vs Cinderella
Which would generate the most fan interest and which the least? The answer is beyond debate, 100% certain.
I think, like with many of the issues in the sport currently, contracts would help. If you have a 2 year contract it could include buyouts and other incentives to at least encourage retention.
Yup.
I wish they would have two tournaments, one for the P5 schools (SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, ACC) and one for the rest.
It would give fans of the little schools real hope of actually winning a title, rather than just having to be happy to make the tourney.
I simply want NIL to be what it is SUPPOSED to be.
It's NOT supposed to be schools accumulating war chests of money to offer players to play for them.
What we have today is not NIL at all. The fact that it has been allowed to evolve to the current landscape is ridiculous.
It's NOT supposed to be schools accumulating war chests of money to offer players to play for them.
What we have today is not NIL at all. The fact that it has been allowed to evolve to the current landscape is ridiculous.
Wrong environment. Attending college / university was INTENDED FOR GETTING A DEGREE, with athletes being given scholarships in exchange for "working" aka performing at a certain level. Trying to argue otherwise is akin to wanting to "be competitive at all costs". The notion was you earn your degree and THEN go find a job, or you work while attenting classes to give you a little spending money or to help pay off your schooling.
They monetized man. No one made the. Universities turn it into the profit center. It ceased to be about education to the universities decades ago. There’s no way you can win this argument because it’s an ignorant argument. There’s only legitimate opposition is “I don’t like it.” Which is fine but it’s also not the way any of this works.
I get where you’re coming from but the way it was before, a 20 year-old who is now worth 2-4 million dollars would have left school and entered the draft or even just gone overseas where they’d make SOMETHING for playing basketball. Now those players are sticking around again.
So yeah, it’s stupid that it has become a cash grab. But at the same time, the actual quality of the sport is going up.
“I hate NIL and the portal” has become the college sport’s equivalent to “get off my lawn!”
LOL!
LOL!
As long as we keep rivalries and the pageantry, I will watch. It's what makes college sports fun. Yes, the product has been tarnished a bit by dudes making millions, but that's on the NCAA. All kids wanted was to make some cash off gear and signatures. NCAA became the old man yelling at a cloud and whelp, here we are.
Portal hasn't ruined it nearly as much as RIDICULOUS NIL stuff (see Nico at EweTee). No college player is worth 4 million a season. Not a one; and very few in history have been worth that.
Now you got freaking high schoolers wanting NIL. It's silly.
Okay, weirdo. It's always been about scholarships, but schools were going against the rules by paying players under the table. Your sentence structure makes no sense, I guess that's your way of "winning the argument".
If you want the job as my editor on message boards, go ahead and send your resume to whogivesacrap.com. I’ll make sure I review it. I win the argument because there’s no consistent logic to your argument. Either it’s about education or it’s not. When the universities turned it into a business in which they profited off the players labor, it ceased being about education. And I win because the Supreme Court agreed 9-0. And both sides wrote scathing opinions.
I quite enjoy the portal and NIL.
It adds fun to the off season, and allows a team to rebuild in one month. So when you lose a coach or have a bad year, you are not doomed for the next few years. You can actually win it all the next year, just look at Florida.
It adds fun to the off season, and allows a team to rebuild in one month. So when you lose a coach or have a bad year, you are not doomed for the next few years. You can actually win it all the next year, just look at Florida.
If you can get someone to pay you that much, then more power to you.
You are worth whatever someone is willing to pay you to do something.
It’s called capitalism.
I understand that. The problem is we're doing it for every John, Mike and Carter out there. Name one high school player that is worth 2.5M.
There's a limit, even if it's in the amount of money to go around.