I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

[OMlawdog]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

Knowing that you are going to hire Ray, lose Hood, not sign Pollard, and for the sake of argument lets say Gray too.

Would you take Stans back if that meant keeping Hood, signing Pollard and keeping Gray? Look

Was Stans at a point of no return? It seems like he was to me, but Im wondering if anyone is second guessing him being fired. It just seems that next year MSU is staring at a pretty irrelevant year for MSU basketball. Say what you want about Stans, come February you at least were being able to talk MSU basketball and their tourney chances.

 

[patdog]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

If we'd kept Stans, we'd have just postponed the problem. It wasn't going to get any better under him. Next season wouldn't have been all that much different than this season was. Stans was completely burned out and had no control at all over the basketball program. It was time.

 

[DawgBot]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

We could have kept Hood with Stansbury either. Not sure if keeping him would have meant we get Pollard and Gray.

If I knew keeping Stansbury would guarantee keeping Hood, getting Pollard and getting Gray, I would have wanted him to stick around for another year.

 

[Foronce]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

coming in from dumpster fire of the 17-12 year ...we should have "fired" Stansbury and not allowed him to "retire" and simply say that this time of performances are not acceptable ...we had bost -sr pg; good player - moultrie; and sidney here and a top class recruited ...yet all the stans supporters said we have to give Stansbury one more year to try to save his job and he had a great recruiting class

Now today knowing what we know now...
That recruiting class all left, except maybe one and you have to think he isn't very good, if he didn't play during a "save your ***" year
bost, moultrie, and sidney ...all are gone


once again MSU sits on their guns and allows our 'best' coach in history to run our program into the ground.

 

[Coach34]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

9 players lost in 16 months???
Labeled "dumpster fire" and "the nation's most dysfunctional program"
Sidney walking up and down the court making the program look bush league
Players on twitter calling out the coaching

at what point would a person draw the line if they still wanted him back after all that ********???

 

[OMlawdog]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

And that guy would end up landing Lawrence Robertson or Arnett Moultrie and he kept MSU basketball relevant. Now the last few years it was relevant for the wrong reasons, but overall it was relevant.

It did seem like he had hit a wall, and I have no idea how good Gray or Pollard could be.

The good thing for Ray is that the expectations are basically zero wins at this point. If he wins 6 SEC games he will be beloved. That is a good situation to walk into if you are him.

 

[maroonmania]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

I think if Stans stayed then Sidney and Deville would have been leaving but Hood would have stayed and we would have kept Gray and gotten Pollard. Moultrie was probably gone regardless and if he is being projected first round then who could blame him. I wasn't wild about the change in the first place because I feared our job would not attract some of the names being thrown around here and because I remember our difficulties recruiting before Stans was here. It didn't help my feelings any either when I was hearing stuff about our AD not wanting someone tied into the AAU circuit which to me further hampers our ability to recruit. You can say that it doesn't matter getting talent if you can't do anything with it or keep it once it is here but by the same token I can say that if you can't sign the talent in the first place the game is lost before you have a chance to do anything else.

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

The program needed an enematic purge.

Say what you want about Stans, come February you at least were being able to talk MSU basketball and their tourney chances.

You mean we were talking about the chances of making the tourney in a year in which we should have been a lock, rather than talking about our chances to make a 2nd-weekend tourney run.

 

[kired]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

I'd go back to 2011 & would have fired Stans then.

What's really a shame is that short of a miracle occurring in the next 2 years,by the time 2015 rolls around a huge percentage of our fan base will say firing Stans was a mistake. All signs point to having the worst season since 2000 - maybe even the worst in 25 years. Just get ready for it- we'll be drivennuts having to hear about what a mistake it was to fire Stans.

 

[DerHntr]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

The dwindling fan support, the unbelievably bad comments about the program from nationally recognized news outlets, twitter issues with players, the issues with Moultrie and Smith, etc. We had to put an end to it. I think we did it one or two years too late and fully believe it would have only gotten worse.

 

[OMlawdog]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

After living through 4 seasons of not being even close to the bubble, trust me its better being on the bubble. Its much more fun having games in February that you actually care about the outcome.

When your basketball team sucks, and you are a basketball fan, it just really sucks.

The worst part of a basketball rebuild is that due to basketball players committing so early, is that the 2013 class will be hard to break into due to the limited time to recruit players. In all honesty, this year's sophomores is where Ray should be spending most of his time.

 

[idog]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

9 players lost in 16 months???
Labeled "dumpster fire" and "the nation's most dysfunctional program"
Sidney walking up and down the court making the program look bush league
Players on twitter calling out the coaching

at what point would a person draw the line if they still wanted him back after all that ********???

Byrne/Stricklindon't allow Sidney in the program and there's nofight, walking up and down the court, etc.

 

[Tds & Beer]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

I fire Stansbury two years sooner. That's why I have been calling for his head for the past two years. What was our mistake with the Kang? We waited too long. What was our mistake with Polk? We waited too long. You have to fire the coach before all the clueless rich boosters want him gone. <div>
</div><div>We are only losing one person that we weren't already losing. Gray. </div><div>
</div><div>Yes I would do it over. Ray hasn't coached a game yet. Give him a few years. </div>

 

[DowntownDawg]

I know it may be early but knowing what you know now, do you do it all over again?

...had we gotten Ray last year (or another coach), that coach could've come in and potentially made the tournament with the lineup we had (which probably would've been minus Sidney). Had Hood signed on and not gotten a release, he probably stays put if the year goes well. The coach would've had momentum going into the offseason and had some relationships with the 2012 class.

Had we put it off another year, all you do is potentially get Pollard and Gray in the program for one year only to see them likely doing what Hood is doing now.

We'd have been much better off doing it last year. But with the seniors leaving and Moultrie going pro, it hurts more right now. Regardless, Rick had let the program rot from the inside and the quicker he was gone, the better. We're going to suck for a while, but it's just something we were going to have to endure at some point.

We need Ray to be a good recruiter. That's the biggest thing at this point.