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reporter asks Mullen about Saban's comments that while the Spread is tough to defend, it doesnt prepare QB's and players for the NFL...

Mullen reply- "I know that I have put more 1st round QB's in the NFL than he has...2 in the last 6 years, not to mention last years Rookie of the Year in Harvin"
 
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reporter asks Mullen about Saban's comments that while the Spread is tough to defend, it doesnt prepare QB's and players for the NFL...

Mullen reply- "I know that I have put more 1st round QB's in the NFL than he has...2 in the last 6 years, not to mention last years Rookie of the Year in Harvin"
 
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reporter asks Mullen about Saban's comments that while the Spread is tough to defend, it doesnt prepare QB's and players for the NFL...

Mullen reply- "I know that I have put more 1st round QB's in the NFL than he has...2 in the last 6 years, not to mention last years Rookie of the Year in Harvin"
 
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He may need to hire a security detail to get out of Birmingham after going after Saban.

Dare I say "TSOE?"
 
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it seems to me that if you can run a spread offense as a QB you can adjust to a pro-set. It really don't matter in my opinion, if you have talent, good work ethic and can be coach,you can make it in a pro-setno matter the type offense you ran incollege. Just a opinion.
 
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I think the question would be successful NFL QBs. A lot of guys that have/had great success as a college QB in a spread attack have gone on to do nothing in the NFL. It's really odd, but most of the guys who put up big numbers in spread college systems don't have NFL success, because the skillset doesn't translate.

I'll be curious to see how long it takes for the NFL to develop more spread concepts, if they ever do. If they do, I can tell you it'll put a whole lot less of a premium on QBs. I think it's easier to get an average QB to have success in a spread system than a pro system. You have to have certain tools and abilities, and it takes a lot more of a mental game to have success in a pro system. A spread system, for a QB should be much easier, and you can disguise a QB's misgivings a good bit.
 
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That was a recruiting ploy by Saban - since that MFer never stops recruiting - and Mullen was right to not take it personally, but quickly respond with a message to recruits of his own. The message? "Hey recruits, I can get you to the next level as well."
 
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Is he claiming Percy Harvin is a QB? Or is he taking credit for his athletic ability?
 
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<div>reporter asks Mullen about Saban's comments that while the Spread is tough to defend, it doesnt prepare QB's and players for the NFL...

Mullen reply- "I know that I have put more 1st round QB's in the NFL than he has...2 in the last 6 years, not to mention last years Rookie of the Year in Harvin" </div>
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I believe Harvin would fall in the "and players" category.</div></div>
 
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good players make the plays, end of story. Now, the spread can help lesser players be more successful. Like Alex Smith. He was a #1 pick, but should he have been? Probably not. But what the 17, it's Urban/Dan's fault for giving him a shot at being the #1 pick instead of lower? Where again is this problem?

If anything, these spread coaches are screwing over the NFL teams, but giving them the impression that lesser talented guys are good enough for them. It's not Mullen's job to evaluate talent for the NFL. A good player is a good player no matter what. This whole phenomena is just a ******** excuse.
 
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Saban said "and players"- meaning the Spread didnt prepare other offensive players for the NFL

Mullen's reply clearly indicated that by Harvin being able to adjust to the NFL and win ROY- that he was indeed prepared for the NFL and didnt waste his 1st season learning things he should have already known


Think it's bad now? Just wait till we spank that *** in Oxford in November
 
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I didn't hear the context. I understand better now what he was trying to say. I think he's simply saying that running a spread option offense doesn't necessarily hinder your ability in the NFL. For WR's and RB's, I don't think it does, but for QB's I think it absolutely makes the transition tougher. I think Alex Smith would agree.

He coached Harvin for 1 year. And all he did was hand him the ball and say "run that way, fast." Harvin's success in the NFL has nothing to do with Mullen. Just like McCluster's success (if he has any) won't be because of Nutt, or McFadden's failure isn't because of Nutt.

Your coach is not the second coming. No matter how much y'all want him to be.
 
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mean you can't be a good pro qb necessarily, using Tebow and Smith as your examples of it working for NFL QBs, well, that's just a flat out inaccurate. Neither have done **** in the NFL.

Now I may be forgetting someone. But that's like Saban bragging over how awesome a pro Russell was.
 
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I think Alex Smith would agree.
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Alex Smith would have never even been considered to be a lottery NFL pick if not for Urban and Mullen. Like my previous post, this entire argument is ********.

Your coach is not the second coming. No matter how much y'all want him to be.
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This just shows that you're an angry bastard who hates all things MSU.
 
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Flacco didnt play in anything resembling a pro offense at Delaware, but started from the time he stepped in Baltimore. The Spread doesn't hinder good QB from being able to make it in the NFL, but it does make average QB's look alot better and therefore harder for the NFL scouts to predict success on the next level.
 
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Dollabillz

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You really are ignorant about sports. A great number of posters here are.
 
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I think it makes it tougher. Generally, spread QB's aren't to go through the same read progression as 5 and 7 step drop QB's. And spread option QB's do it even less. That was my point.
 
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Dollabillz

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We all know Matt Barkley and Matt Stafford types will go to the NFL. Nobody thought Alex Smith would. Mullen helped him get there. No matter the results, recruits want a chance to play in the NFL.

The "preparation" is a dumb argument. If you're talented and have the intangibles, you're prepared. The scheme does not matter at all.
 
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Only reason I can see is that you don't want to give Mullen any credit.
 
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if those two play for Norm Chow, they end up 3rd string QB's that nobody has ever heard of. Smith was a damn 1-star recruit

As I said, the Spread makes average QB's look alot better and therefore harder to judge by NFL scouts.
 
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if it meant we wouldn't have to deal with your ignorance.

Almost.
 
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You would probably agree if Houston Nutt was the one in question.
 
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and had 3 different offensive coordinators in his first three years. He had a solid year last year and as a niners fan, I expect him to improve.
 
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as I said- if Smith and Tebow had played for Norm Chow, they probably never even see the field.

You got Carson Palmer and Tim Tebow at USC- who is going to start? Alex Smith or Matt Ryan at BC- who plays?
 
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