I Support Greg Schiano

[Knight Shift]

I am stating that I disagree with you, that Schiano is not going to be fired, and that barring some terrible health calamity he will be coaching Rutgers Football next season. You claim he will be fired. I am offering to bet you on this, but you appear to not have faith in your take. Whaddaya say?

Maybe Greg will do the honorable thing and retire early like the HC of K-State just did who had a much better record and defeated RU in the bowl game last year?

From AI: Chris Klieman's current contract with Kansas State runs through 2032, with an annual salary of approximately $5.25 million.

• Buyout Clause: If Klieman were to leave voluntarily, he would owe the university around $6 million unless negotiated otherwise.

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Klieman had a great record at ND State, but not as good at K- State, but still much better than Schiano. Very honorable of him to retire because he is not performing to the standard set. More coaches should do that instead of soaking the their employers for subpar performance!!!

2014	North Dakota State	15–1	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2015	North Dakota State	13–2	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2016	North Dakota State	12–2	7–1	T–1st	L NCAA Division I Semifinal	3	3
2017	North Dakota State	14–1	7–1	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2018	North Dakota State	15–0	8–0	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
North Dakota State:	69–6	36–4
Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2019–present)
2019	Kansas State	8–5	5–4	T–3rd	L Liberty
2020	Kansas State	4–6	4–5	7th
2021	Kansas State	8–5	4–5	T–5th	W Texas
2022	Kansas State	10–4	7–2	1st	L Sugar†	14	14
2023	Kansas State	9–4	6–3	T–4th	W Pop-Tarts	19	18
2024	Kansas State	9–4	5–4	T–8th	W Rate
2025	Kansas State	6–6	5–4	T–7th
Kansas State:	54–34	36–27
Total:	126–47

 

[Caliknight]

It’s not like the numbers aren’t public information. Rutgers spent in the top 10-15 of all NCAA football programs on their operational budget.

Here are all the FY24 FOOTBALL operating budgets

You asked, so I made the spreadsheet.

www.extrapointsmb.com

recruiting budget was also top 15.

The school is doing more than their part. The alums have to step up to truly make the difference with the big boys but from a school spend stand point, Schiano isn’t even close to delivering results. His ego won’t allow it but Kelli should decimate his bloated staff and force feed a GM of her choosing on him. Thats what I would do if I were her. He hasn’t earned the right to run his program unfettered

 

[mdk02]

Sorry to say it but RU Football is a losing proposition. We will never have the alumni network or commitment to compete with the traditional powerhouses. The tri-state area simply doesn’t care enough about college football. BTW, where is the support from the RU football alumni? Any of those former players especially the ones that made it to the NFL writing checks?

True that the alum network is a shadow of Ohio St. and the original SEC schools. As for former players, someone like KM, so recently out of school with underwhelming signing bonus probably has pressing family needs. Do we know the answer for older player? Davis, Britt and Leonard. IP didn't really get money until his 2nd contract so it's early.

 

[RUDivision]

The school is doing more than their part. The alums have to step up to truly make the difference with the big boys but from a school spend stand point, Schiano isn’t even close to delivering results. His ego won’t allow it but Kelli should decimate his bloated staff and force feed a GM of her choosing on him. Thats what I would do if I were her. He hasn’t earned the right to run his program unfettered

What about Schiano constantly selling the idea that we are a developmental program. The key to success is the development.

In the next breath we do not have the money to attack the portal for transfers and keep talent.

His logic is awful

 

[yesrutgers01]

Sorry to say it but RU Football is a losing proposition. We will never have the alumni network or commitment to compete with the traditional powerhouses. The tri-state area simply doesn’t care enough about college football. BTW, where is the support from the RU football alumni? Any of those former players especially the ones that made it to the NFL writing checks?

True that the alum network is a shadow of Ohio St. and the original SEC schools. As for former players, someone like KM, so recently out of school with underwhelming signing bonus probably has pressing family needs. Do we know the answer for older player? Davis, Britt and Leonard. IP didn't really get money until his 2nd contract so it's early.

MDK- hits it pretty well...Many of our players were late round or udfa and played only a first contract. There isn't a lot of guys with 2nd/3rd contracts. The Twins have always been supportive as have a couple of other players.

But here is the issue - Rutgers does almost nothing for the former athletes after they leave Rutgers. And for many of them- their experiences during 1.0 and Flood/Ash were so horrific- they left and really had no interest in looking back.

 

[DJ Spanky]

But here is the issue - Rutgers does almost nothing for the former athletes after they leave Rutgers. And for many of them- their experiences during 1.0 and Flood/Ash were so horrific- they left and really had no interest in looking back.

Yeah, I heard Ash treated former players real well!

 

[yesrutgers01]

Yeah, I heard Ash treated former players real well!

It is funny, when Greg came back- I was very hopeful that he really had changed. The first time I had the chance to catch up with him his first year back- he asked me for Kevin's phone number as he wanted to call him and apologize for how he didn't handle things well when he was coaching Kevin.

I said- hmmm, that really takes a big man to be able to admit that...but, wouldn't you know it- he never did make that phone call.

 

[ru66+]

See Kiffins press conference. See rev share. See Greg being tossed out

I have no idea what you are saying. I don't give a crap about what Kiffen says or thinks---won't read his press conference.You clearly have a major case of Schiano derangement syndrome.Get help--you're illogical and can't face reality.Neither Tate nor Zinn are firing him.

 

[RUTGERS95]

It is funny, when Greg came back- I was very hopeful that he really had changed. The first time I had the chance to catch up with him his first year back- he asked me for Kevin's phone number as he wanted to call him and apologize for how he didn't handle things well when he was coaching Kevin.

I said- hmmm, that really takes a big man to be able to admit that...but, wouldn't you know it- he never did make that phone call.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. I'm sure it slipped his mind with him jumping back in with both feet. I would have to guess.......

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

It’s not like the numbers aren’t public information. Rutgers spent in the top 10-15 of all NCAA football programs on their operational budget.

Here are all the FY24 FOOTBALL operating budgets

You asked, so I made the spreadsheet.

www.extrapointsmb.com

recruiting budget was also top 15.

All that for mediocre results.

 

[RUDivision]

I have no idea what you are saying. I don't give a crap about about what Kiffen says or thinks---won't read his press conference.You clearly have a major case of Schiano derangement syndrome.Get help--you're illogical and can't face reality.Neither Tate nor Zinn are firing him.

Dead man walking!

You don’t have to read the presser I am just trying to help you understand Rev share , Nil, and support your dad currently has.

#Gregmustgo

 

[DJ Spanky]

All he knows is how to spank his monkey.

Wow, that's funny. And so original. Did you hurt yourself thinking that up?

 

[Loyal-Son]

You claim my statement was wrong, then go on a diatribe about something I’ve never even said. Supposedly played lol. You’re a bizarre dude.

Schiano supporter staff is massive. The school invested more in football than Oregon spent last year. Think about that for a second.

Kelli should hand pick a GM and hire them herself and force Schianos hand, while reducing his over bloated support staff including his family. He won’t like it but it’s the best thing for Rutgers.

Can now understand why you are promoting Trump like you do. Just like him, you completely distort facts to serve your agenda. Note your comment that the school is strongly supporting the support staff and then quickly proclaiming that Schiano is massively supported in other areas - complete distortion, but that is how you roll. Not good enough for you, because you then claim we are contributing more than even Oregon to our football program. Anyone checking the actual numbers will find that to be a massive bald-faced lie, but that is just who you are. Rutgers is generous in paying its football staff, but in every other area, RU is at the very bottom of the B1G in financial support.

Greg has not been playing on a level playing field with the rest of the B1G, but you still expect him to perform miracles with significantly less talent than his opposition. Not sure why you have the bug up your *** about Schiano, but perhaps it is because it is obvious he is ten times the man you are. He is doing his damnedest to provide a proper growth environment for his players. When have you done anything to help anyone other than yourself?

Schiano is not perfect, based on the comments of Kevin's step-dad, but almost all the kids who come out of the program are real men willing to take their responsibilities seriously, and that definitely includes Kevin.

Schiano is likely as conservative as you are, but he has a totally different character.

You promise you were going to go away when the lacrosse board was eliminated, but here you are again. Guess your word does not mean that much - no surprise!

Hope you enjoyed this diatribe. I don't mind being called a Schiano apologist, because I have actual data to back up my support. The best you can do is lie about funding and blather on about the failure to reach top program status in 6 years while ignoring the reasons why.

 

[Rob from NJ]

Maybe Greg will do the honorable thing and retire early like the HC of K-State just did who had a much better record and defeated RU in the bowl game last year?

From AI: Chris Klieman's current contract with Kansas State runs through 2032, with an annual salary of approximately $5.25 million.

• Buyout Clause: If Klieman were to leave voluntarily, he would owe the university around $6 million unless negotiated otherwise.

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Klieman had a great record at ND State, but not as good at K- State, but still much better than Schiano. Very honorable of him to retire because he is not performing to the standard set. More coaches should do that instead of soaking the their employers for subpar performance!!!

2014	North Dakota State	15–1	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2015	North Dakota State	13–2	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2016	North Dakota State	12–2	7–1	T–1st	L NCAA Division I Semifinal	3	3
2017	North Dakota State	14–1	7–1	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2018	North Dakota State	15–0	8–0	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
North Dakota State:	69–6	36–4
Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2019–present)
2019	Kansas State	8–5	5–4	T–3rd	L Liberty
2020	Kansas State	4–6	4–5	7th
2021	Kansas State	8–5	4–5	T–5th	W Texas
2022	Kansas State	10–4	7–2	1st	L Sugar†	14	14
2023	Kansas State	9–4	6–3	T–4th	W Pop-Tarts	19	18
2024	Kansas State	9–4	5–4	T–8th	W Rate
2025	Kansas State	6–6	5–4	T–7th
Kansas State:	54–34	36–27
Total:	126–47

This was his worst season at KS with a 6-6 record (excluding covid year) by a minimum of 2 games. 6-7 wins is Schiano's ceiling and there's no proof otherwise that his ceiling is higher. Schiano couldn't hold Klieman's jock strap.

 

[RU#1fan]

Wow, that's funny. And so original. Did you hurt yourself thinking that up?

Nobody can compete with you Mr. Real Man of Genius

 

[DJ Spanky]

Nobody can compete with you Mr. Real Man of Genius

Ah, now that your one original thought per month is exhausted for December, you turn to commercials for your favorite alcoholic beverage. Dylan Mulvaney approves!

 

[RUDivision]

Can now understand why you are promoting Trump like you do. Just like him, you completely distort facts to serve your agenda. Note your comment that the school is strongly supporting the support staff and then quickly proclaiming that Schiano is massively supported in other areas - complete distortion, but that is how you roll. Not good enough for you, because you then claim we are contributing more than even Oregon to our football program. Anyone checking the actual numbers will find that to be a massive bald-faced lie, but that is just who you are. Rutgers is generous in paying its football staff, but in every other area, RU is at the very bottom of the B1G in financial support.

Greg has not been playing on a level playing field with the rest of the B1G, but you still expect him to perform miracles with significantly less talent than his opposition. Not sure why you have the bug up your *** about Schiano, but perhaps it is because it is obvious he is ten times the man you are. He is doing his damnedest to provide a proper growth environment for his players. When have you done anything to help anyone other than yourself?

Schiano is not perfect, based on the comments of Kevin's step-dad, but almost all the kids who come out of the program are real men willing to take their responsibilities seriously, and that definitely includes Kevin.

Schiano is likely as conservative as you are, but he has a totally different character.

You promise you were going to go away when the lacrosse board was eliminated, but here you are again. Guess your word does not mean that much - no surprise!

Hope you enjoyed this diatribe. I don't mind being called a Schiano apologist, because I have actual data to back up my support. The best you can do is lie about funding and blather on about the failure to reach top program status in 6 years while ignoring the reasons why.

Schiano takes responsibility serious and character.

Let’s survey Tampa Bay, OSU, and PSU on that! Might get a slightly different answer.

 

[Caliknight]

Can now understand why you are promoting Trump like you do. Just like him, you completely distort facts to serve your agenda. Note your comment that the school is strongly supporting the support staff and then quickly proclaiming that Schiano is massively supported in other areas - complete distortion, but that is how you roll. Not good enough for you, because you then claim we are contributing more than even Oregon to our football program. Anyone checking the actual numbers will find that to be a massive bald-faced lie, but that is just who you are. Rutgers is generous in paying its football staff, but in every other area, RU is at the very bottom of the B1G in financial support.

Greg has not been playing on a level playing field with the rest of the B1G, but you still expect him to perform miracles with significantly less talent than his opposition. Not sure why you have the bug up your *** about Schiano, but perhaps it is because it is obvious he is ten times the man you are. He is doing his damnedest to provide a proper growth environment for his players. When have you done anything to help anyone other than yourself?

Schiano is not perfect, based on the comments of Kevin's step-dad, but almost all the kids who come out of the program are real men willing to take their responsibilities seriously, and that definitely includes Kevin.

Schiano is likely as conservative as you are, but he has a totally different character.

You promise you were going to go away when the lacrosse board was eliminated, but here you are again. Guess your word does not mean that much - no surprise!

Hope you enjoyed this diatribe. I don't mind being called a Schiano apologist, because I have actual data to back up my support. The best you can do is lie about funding and blather on about the failure to reach top program status in 6 years while ignoring the reasons why.

TDS meet CDS.

Does Schiano not have a massive staff? Did the school not spend more on football last year than many other B1G programs? What facts are being confused exactly? Show this data you are claiming.

Your diatribe was weak.

 

[MADHAT1]

This was his worst season at KS with a 6-6 record (excluding covid year) by a minimum of 2 games. 6-7 wins is Schiano's ceiling and there's no proof otherwise that his ceiling is higher. Schiano couldn't hold Klieman's jock strap.

This >" Maybe Greg will do the honorable thing and retire early like the HC of K-State just did who had a much better record and defeated RU in the bowl game last year?"<
might not be as honorable after a disappointing season as potting ones health first
Their is a rumor that KSU'a HC is retiring because of health and stress from the job.
If in best of health I bet he'd come back next season to prove he can do a better job
( part of an article I read)

>Some were surprised when Kansas State football coach Chris Klieman abruptly announced his decision to retire on Wednesday after spending the past seven seasons in charge of the Wildcats. But retirement has apparently been on his mind for quite a while. “After many deep and thoughtful conversations with my family, we have decided that the time is right for me to retire from coaching,” Klieman, 58, said in a statement. “This decision was not taken lightly and was the culmination of many factors, including my own personal health.”<

Read more at: https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article313369720.html#storylink=cpy

 

[RUTGERS95]

The school is doing more than their part. The alums have to step up to truly make the difference with the big boys but from a school spend stand point, Schiano isn’t even close to delivering results. His ego won’t allow it but Kelli should decimate his bloated staff and force feed a GM of her choosing on him. Thats what I would do if I were her. He hasn’t earned the right to run his program unfettered

I would do that and more by stripping him of as much as possible. Hopefully force him to see other employment or leave

 

[NotInRHouse]

Can now understand why you are promoting Trump like you do. Just like him, you completely distort facts to serve your agenda. Note your comment that the school is strongly supporting the support staff and then quickly proclaiming that Schiano is massively supported in other areas - complete distortion, but that is how you roll. Not good enough for you, because you then claim we are contributing more than even Oregon to our football program. Anyone checking the actual numbers will find that to be a massive bald-faced lie, but that is just who you are. Rutgers is generous in paying its football staff, but in every other area, RU is at the very bottom of the B1G in financial support.

Greg has not been playing on a level playing field with the rest of the B1G, but you still expect him to perform miracles with significantly less talent than his opposition. Not sure why you have the bug up your *** about Schiano, but perhaps it is because it is obvious he is ten times the man you are. He is doing his damnedest to provide a proper growth environment for his players. When have you done anything to help anyone other than yourself?

Schiano is not perfect, based on the comments of Kevin's step-dad, but almost all the kids who come out of the program are real men willing to take their responsibilities seriously, and that definitely includes Kevin.

Schiano is likely as conservative as you are, but he has a totally different character.

You promise you were going to go away when the lacrosse board was eliminated, but here you are again. Guess your word does not mean that much - no surprise!

Hope you enjoyed this diatribe. I don't mind being called a Schiano apologist, because I have actual data to back up my support. The best you can do is lie about funding and blather on about the failure to reach top program status in 6 years while ignoring the reasons why.

This board is all he has, we knew it would only be a few weeks unfortunately.

 

[Caliknight]

Actually the pay side while not providing content I previously did. More to come on that though Tubby.

Three more years of Trump. You guys going to make it lol

 

[bac2therac]

its only a matter of time...yikes how lame Greg

 

[BossNJ]

Hust out of curiousity when does he need to actually produce? A .278 confrence winning percentage not gettign it done. Even if you forget the first 3 years he still at 9-18 or .300. At what point do all the excuses end? I mean every team can say if we excuted better in loses we would win more games. At the end of the day coaches are hired to win football games, not collect talent that can hypothetically win championships.

You of all people should know that

 

[RU#1fan]

TDS meet CDS.

Does Schiano not have a massive staff? Did the school not spend more on football last year than many other B1G programs? What facts are being confused exactly? Show this data you are claiming.

Your diatribe was weak.

This
Sounds like posters like Loyal and Spanky continue to ignore the facts and are sworn to blind ultimate loyalty to Schiano. This thinking will continue to keep the program at the bottom of the B1G.

 

[ru66+]

What the f*** does it mean to be the alleged best coach per capita in America? Compared to other very mediocre coaches?

Write a letter to Tate and ask him yourself but most intelligent people know what he meant. You'll just embarrass yourself.

 

[ru66+]

TDS meet CDS.

Does Schiano not have a massive staff? Did the school not spend more on football last year than many other B1G programs? What facts are being confused exactly? Show this data you are claiming.

Your diatribe was weak.

Do you know how much money was actually spent (paid) on the RU football team this year?? I heard a number recently from someone inside the program that would even embarrass Schiano haters--- it was incredibly low.The numbers next year with revenue sharing and NIL, still way less than the majority of BIG teams ,if they come to fruition will far,and mean very far,exceed this year's numbers.If that info is true about what he had to work with the last couple of years, any reasonable person with a brain would understand why President Tate said , per capita he's one of the best coaches in the country.

 

[rutgersguy2]

Maybe Greg will do the honorable thing and retire early like the HC of K-State just did who had a much better record and defeated RU in the bowl game last year?

From AI: Chris Klieman's current contract with Kansas State runs through 2032, with an annual salary of approximately $5.25 million.

• Buyout Clause: If Klieman were to leave voluntarily, he would owe the university around $6 million unless negotiated otherwise.

----
Klieman had a great record at ND State, but not as good at K- State, but still much better than Schiano. Very honorable of him to retire because he is not performing to the standard set. More coaches should do that instead of soaking the their employers for subpar performance!!!

2014	North Dakota State	15–1	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2015	North Dakota State	13–2	7–1	T–1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2016	North Dakota State	12–2	7–1	T–1st	L NCAA Division I Semifinal	3	3
2017	North Dakota State	14–1	7–1	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
2018	North Dakota State	15–0	8–0	1st	W NCAA Division I Championship	1	1
North Dakota State:	69–6	36–4
Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2019–present)
2019	Kansas State	8–5	5–4	T–3rd	L Liberty
2020	Kansas State	4–6	4–5	7th
2021	Kansas State	8–5	4–5	T–5th	W Texas
2022	Kansas State	10–4	7–2	1st	L Sugar†	14	14
2023	Kansas State	9–4	6–3	T–4th	W Pop-Tarts	19	18
2024	Kansas State	9–4	5–4	T–8th	W Rate
2025	Kansas State	6–6	5–4	T–7th
Kansas State:	54–34	36–27
Total:	126–47

 

[Caliknight]

Bole games are meaningless now. I wouldn’t want to play in one either unless it was in the playoffs. That’s all that matters now. Do away with those silly games

 

[Caliknight]

Do you know how much money was actually spent (paid) on the RU football team this year?? I heard a number recently from someone inside the program that would even embarrass Schiano haters--- it was incredibly low.The numbers next year with revenue sharing and NIL, still way less than the majority of BIG teams ,if they come to fruition will far,and mean very far,exceed this year's numbers.If that info is true about what he had to work with the last couple of years, any reasonable person with a brain would understand why President Tate said , per capita he's one of the best coaches in the country.

I don’t care enough to find them but the data was posted here. Rutgers as a U spent more on football than a number of B1G schools, not to mention other conference schools. It was near Oregon levels of I remember right.

 

[Kbe4]

nm

 

[T2Kplus20]

Bole games are meaningless now. I wouldn’t want to play in one either unless it was in the playoffs. That’s all that matters now. Do away with those silly games

This would be a huge improvement for the sport and perhaps justification to go to 16 teams in the playoffs (or maybe more).

 

[MCRU93]

Bole games are meaningless now. I wouldn’t want to play in one either unless it was in the playoffs. That’s all that matters now. Do away with those silly games

I guess the lax site never took off LOL.... Also it's Bowl* and for teams not in the CFP the extra practices are very beneficial for their underclassmen

 

[rutgersguy2]

This would be a huge improvement for the sport and perhaps justification to go to 16 teams in the playoffs (or maybe more).

24 is dismissed out of hand (I did too) by fans and some admins as well. I went over it in last week’s games thread and if you think about it, it does address a lot of interests and issues.

 

[T2Kplus20]

24 is dismissed out of hand (I did too) by fans and some admins as well. I went over it in last week’s games thread and if you think about it, it does address a lot of interests and issues.

With the bowl format, I want the playoffs to be a small as position, 6 teams at most. However, if bowls are dumped, sure, the playoffs can be expanded and make up for it.

Regular season, conference championships, playoffs. BOOM! Done.

 

[yesrutgers01]

What would be the breakdown of "what was spent on the football team last year" as one poster has us spending more than any other B1G team and another has us spending near the lowest.
I could only find numbers from 2022 and OSU had something like $225Mil in expenses and others well over $170mil. Rutgers was around $138mil. still higher than some. But, I am assuming that may be counting the loans we are paying off- and that has nothing to do with doing anything to assist in approving our team. It was pretty much the cost of joining the B1G.

 

[rutgersguy2]

With the bowl format, I want the playoffs to be a small as position, 6 teams at most. However, if bowls are dumped, sure, the playoffs can be expanded and make up for it.

Regular season, conference championships, playoffs. BOOM! Done.

Conference championships are becoming somewhat obsolete, almost like bowls. The money is the main driver. Expansion to 16 might be enough to make up for champ games elimination but I think 24 definitely would.

Less bowl games and more on campus playoff games too.

 

[rutgersguy2]

What would be the breakdown of "what was spent on the football team last year" as one poster has us spending more than any other B1G team and another has us spending near the lowest.
I could only find numbers from 2022 and OSU had something like $225Mil in expenses and others well over $170mil. Rutgers was around $138mil. still higher than some. But, I am assuming that may be counting the loans we are paying off- and that has nothing to do with doing anything to assist in approving our team. It was pretty much the cost of joining the B1G.

I posted the football operating budgets and total football coaching staff salaries in the B10 for 2024 in this thread. It doesn't include USC and NW.

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[Knight Shift]

Conference championships are becoming somewhat obsolete, almost like bowls. The money is the main driver. Expansion to 16 might be enough to make up for champ games elimination but I think 24 definitely would.

Less bowl games and more on campus playoff games too.

Was it you or @Fat Koko who posted the spending of B1G football programs recently?

 

[rutgersguy2]

Was it you or @Fat Koko who posted the spending of B1G football programs recently?

He's always good with that stuff but I posted the numbers. I referred to the thread I posted them in a couple posts above.