I think we should pursue EJ Warner (Temple)

[Ash_Hole]

Programs across country are feeling out players and offering NIL money to get them to switch — I think EJ Warner is a gem.

True Freshman, Kurt Warner’s son, right down the road, played well against us.

Did you guys see what he did in 3 of his last 4 games??

vs. ECU: 527 yards. 5 tds, 1 int
vs. Houston: 486 yds. 3 tds, 0 int
vs. USF: 344 yds. 2 tds, 0 int

As a true freshman! The apple may not have fallen far from the tree…

Now, who knows if there’s any opening at all — but when a rare talent is an hour away and staff got to see him play in-person, a Rutgers fan can dream

 

[mdk02]

Programs across country are feeling out players and offering NIL money to get them to switch — I think EJ Warner is a gem.

True Freshman, Kurt Warner’s son, right down the road, played well against us.

Did you guys see what he did in 3 of his last 4 games??

vs. ECU: 527 yards. 5 tds, 1 int
vs. Houston: 486 yds. 3 tds, 0 int
vs. USF: 344 yds. 2 tds, 0 int

As a true freshman! The apple may not have fallen far from the tree…

Now, who knows if there’s any opening at all — but when a rare talent is an hour away and staff got to see him play in-person, a Rutgers fan can dream

Doesn't he have to enter the portal first?

 

[Colbert17!]

He's not leaving Temple.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

So glad the OP neglected to mention the other 8 games where he had a combined 8 TDs & 11 INTs.

 

[jsol_05]

Programs across country are feeling out players and offering NIL money to get them to switch — I think EJ Warner is a gem.

True Freshman, Kurt Warner’s son, right down the road, played well against us.

Did you guys see what he did in 3 of his last 4 games??

vs. ECU: 527 yards. 5 tds, 1 int
vs. Houston: 486 yds. 3 tds, 0 int
vs. USF: 344 yds. 2 tds, 0 int

As a true freshman! The apple may not have fallen far from the tree…

Now, who knows if there’s any opening at all — but when a rare talent is an hour away and staff got to see him play in-person, a Rutgers fan can dream

Oh he is coming, in Sept he gonna try to kick our butts. Why would he come here, he threw the ball 64 times in one game, that is 3 to 4 games here

 

[NickRU714]

So glad the OP neglected to mention the other 8 games where he had a combined 8 TDs & 11 INTs.

Know nothing about Warner but obviously it takes time for QBs to develop and get better as they play more games.

See how Wimsatt from first start to end of season.
While not great, he was obviously better than his earlier games.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Who would coach him?

 

[RUforlife]

Warner played most of the year as an 18 year old true freshman, just turned 19 a month or so ago. His offensive line was an absolute mess the entire year, they were decimated by injuries. The receiving corps also left a lot to be desired, lot of dropped passes and bad routes. That said, he grew into the position the latter half of the season when things really begin to click for him. He needs put on about 20 pounds of muscle which will help his arm strength, which unlike accuracy, can be improved with work in the gym, especially when you are dealing with someone so young. He reads defenses like a pro and sees the entire field, watch the film, very impressive. As for leaving Temple, I don't buy the nonsense that he is untouchable, you don't know until you try.

 

[RUPsyched]

Warner was a better QB towards the end of the season than he was at the beginning. That is all we ask of any college freshman QB. He is playing at the level(G5 AAC) that allows him to succeed. Wimsatt has a much steeper mountain to climb. Looking forward to Wimsatt finally getting the right tools so he can reach the peak.

 

[jsol_05]

Warner was a better QB towards the end of the season than he was at the beginning. That is all we ask of any college freshman QB. He is playing at the level(G5 AAC) that allows him to succeed. Wimsatt has a much steeper mountain to climb. Looking forward to Wimsatt finally getting the right tools so he can reach the peak.

So you saying Winsattt is playing at a level that doesn’t allow him to succeed. Well we will find out in September when they go head to head.

 

[Morrischiano2]

Programs across country are feeling out players and offering NIL money to get them to switch — I think EJ Warner is a gem.

True Freshman, Kurt Warner’s son, right down the road, played well against us.

Did you guys see what he did in 3 of his last 4 games??

vs. ECU: 527 yards. 5 tds, 1 int
vs. Houston: 486 yds. 3 tds, 0 int
vs. USF: 344 yds. 2 tds, 0 int

As a true freshman! The apple may not have fallen far from the tree…

Now, who knows if there’s any opening at all — but when a rare talent is an hour away and staff got to see him play in-person, a Rutgers fan can dream

The son of Kurt Warner doesn’t need NIL money.

That being said, we aren’t bursting with money in the NIL accounts.

So what are you going to do to target him? Show him tape of our ground breaking passing offense. Kurt Warner lives in AZ and works in LA. Chances are the kid transfers somewhere after next season to play in a passing offense in the Big 12 or PAC 10.

 

[RUforlife]

So you saying Winsattt would have had better stats at Temple. If you can play, you can play anywhere.

Wimsatt deserves one more off season program (his third) to see if they can improve his accuracy issues. If he starts next year and still struggles then it is actually very selfish of Schiano and his staff to keep playing him as a QB. Wimsatt has the physical attributes to play at the next level at another position than QB, it would be in his best interest to move and learn that position as soon as it becomes apparent that he will not be successful at the QB position.

 

[jsol_05]

The son of Kurt Warner doesn’t need NIL money.

That being said, we aren’t bursting with money in the NIL accounts.

So what are you going to do to target him? Show him tape of our ground breaking passing offense. Kurt Warner lives in AZ and works in LA. Chances are the kid transfers somewhere after next season to play in a passing offense in the Big 12 or PAC 10.

People with $$$ don’t turn down $$$. However, I think he remains at Temple and he gonna give us problems in September

 

[NorthernKnight_rivals]

I think he is going to be in the hospital after he plays us in September.

 

[RUPsyched]

So you saying Winsattt is playing at a level that doesn’t allow him to succeed. Well we will find out in September when they go head to head.

I Probably worded that incorrectly. Should have added the word "quickly" at the end of that sentence. But, yes, playing against better, faster stronger and better coached defenses makes it more difficult to succeed as a freshman. With notable exceptions of course.

 

[SouthJerseyRU]

This infatuation with Warner on this board is weird. I admit that I only watched Temple in the RU game, but in that game there were at least 2 dropped INTs that he threw right into the hands of DBs.

From the stats for the rest of the year, it looks like they did a good job of calling plays to his strengths. To me he's no better than Simon, but he had a better offensive coordinator.

 

[Rutgers Chris]

This infatuation with Warner on this board is weird. I admit that I only watched Temple in the RU game, but in that game there were at least 2 dropped INTs that he threw right into the hands of DBs.

From the stats for the rest of the year, it looks like they did a good job of calling plays to his strengths. To me he's no better than Simon, but he had a better offensive coordinator.

There was also 1, maybe two dropped passes that were going for 60+ yard touchdowns against us to balance that out

 

[RUforlife]

This infatuation with Warner on this board is weird. I admit that I only watched Temple in the RU game, but in that game there were at least 2 dropped INTs that he threw right into the hands of DBs.

From the stats for the rest of the year, it looks like they did a good job of calling plays to his strengths. To me he's no better than Simon, but he had a better offensive coordinator.

That was the first start for a true 18 year old freshman against a decent B1G defense. Look at that game and then take a look at his last 5 games and you can see the progression. Once he puts on about 15-20 pounds and they work on his arm strength, he will be playing on Sunday's. Some P5 program will grab him this year or next year, no way he wastes his talent at Temple for 4 years.

 

[DHajekRC84]

yup , come to play for Coach Schiano and Quarterback U (minus a nickel and a dime).

 

[Rokodesh]

I think he is going to be in the hospital after he plays us in September.

Bad taste dude

 

[tomatocan]

"Wimsatt has the physical attributes to play at the next level at another position."
What position would that be? Wide receiver? Tight end? Guess I just don't see it.

 

[Yeah Baby]

Wimsatt deserves one more off season program (his third) to see if they can improve his accuracy issues. If he starts next year and still struggles then it is actually very selfish of Schiano and his staff to keep playing him as a QB. Wimsatt has the physical attributes to play at the next level at another position than QB, it would be in his best interest to move and learn that position as soon as it becomes apparent that he will not be successful at the QB position.

This will be his second off season not third. Next year will be his 3rd season with us although he came a few weeks into the first season. He played 4 games last year, had his first spring and summer camp and then played his first full season which just concluded. This spring and summer will be his second off season.

 

[Shelby65]

"Wimsatt has the physical attributes to play at the next level at another position."
What position would that be? Wide receiver? Tight end? Guess I just don't see it.

yeah, is there a more delusional fan base than ours ?

 

[Ash_Hole]

Warner played most of the year as an 18 year old true freshman, just turned 19 a month or so ago. His offensive line was an absolute mess the entire year, they were decimated by injuries. The receiving corps also left a lot to be desired, lot of dropped passes and bad routes. That said, he grew into the position the latter half of the season when things really begin to click for him. He needs put on about 20 pounds of muscle which will help his arm strength, which unlike accuracy, can be improved with work in the gym, especially when you are dealing with someone so young. He reads defenses like a pro and sees the entire field, watch the film, very impressive. As for leaving Temple, I don't buy the nonsense that he is untouchable, you don't know until you try.

100%

The contrarians haven’t seen him play outside of his very first start against us … as a true freshman with a horrible line against a B1G defense. And he was still better than our options

Like you said, I don’t buy the noise that anyone’s untouchable either. Kurt and Schiano both have deep media ties, both in broadcasting. EJ Warner may want a bigger stage and F.A.M.I.L.Y. is very important to his family

 

[Ash_Hole]

This infatuation with Warner on this board is weird. I admit that I only watched Temple in the RU game, but in that game there were at least 2 dropped INTs that he threw right into the hands of DBs.

From the stats for the rest of the year, it looks like they did a good job of calling plays to his strengths. To me he's no better than Simon, but he had a better offensive coordinator.

You need to watch his games against 7-5 Houston and 7-5 ECU then

527 yards, 5 TDs against a bowl team. His field presence, accuracy, football IQ is off the charts. Stuff you can’t teach

First conference Rookie of the Year ever for Temple. And he broke Temple’s record for most yards in a season. More than PJ Walker, Russo, etc…

Maybe GW gets there, but when you see it in your own backyard — I just think you have to at least think about it in today’s transfer climate

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

You need to watch his games against 7-5 Houston and 7-5 ECU then

527 yards, 5 TDs against a bowl team. His field presence, accuracy, football IQ is off the charts. Stuff you can’t teach

First conference Rookie of the Year ever for Temple. And he broke Temple’s record for most yards in a season. More than PJ Walker, Russo, etc…

Maybe GW gets there, but when you see it in your own backyard — I just think you have to at least think about it in today’s transfer climate

It's a good thing he has attributes that can't be taught, since none of them would be taught here.

 

[Knight Shift]

So you saying Winsattt is playing at a level that doesn’t allow him to succeed. Well we will find out in September when they go head to head.

I detailed this elsewhere. EJ Warner started 12 games and had 3 times the number of pass attempts as Gavin. In games mid-late season against tougher defenses, Warner looked like crap. It's not all on the QB. Crappy pass protection and crappy WR and TE separation, etc. matter too. I'm sure you understand this. If A QB is on the run or WRs are not open, there will be a lower completion % and more INTs. Maybe the players playing around Gavin are playing at a level that doesn't provide QBs with a better opportunity to succeed. Do you understand it is not a one dimensional analysis?

 

[DHajekRC84]

"Wimsatt has the physical attributes to play at the next level at another position."
What position would that be? Wide receiver? Tight end? Guess I just don't see it.

Kick returner if he gets to carry the ball lower.

 

[Jtung230]

I think he is going to be in the hospital after he plays us in September.

Put him in a body bag!!!!

 

[RUforlife]

I detailed this elsewhere. EJ Warner started 12 games and had 3 times the number of pass attempts as Gavin. In games mid-late season against tougher defenses, Warner looked like crap. It's not all on the QB. Crappy pass protection and crappy WR and TE separation, etc. matter too. I'm sure you understand this. If A QB is on the run or WRs are not open, there will be a lower completion % and more INTs. Maybe the players playing around Gavin are playing at a level that doesn't provide QBs with a better opportunity to succeed. Do you understand it is not a one dimensional analysis?

First, he didn't start 12 games. He played in the Lafayette game and his first start was against us.
The last 3/4 games he was off the charts. Against, Cincy they were missing three lineman, but he still completed 58% of his passes.
There is no comparison between the level of play of the OL and receivers we have compared to Temple. Wimsatt played with much greater talent.
Wimsatt is an athletic QB who actually probably performs better outside the pocket as compared to Warner who is a classic pocket passer and if you watched the games on tape will not run.
I am sorry, there is really no comparison at this point. True freshman vs redshirt freshman. Let's see how Wimsatt does at the beginning of the season, we will know very quickly next year if he is the answer.

 

[Knight Shift]

You need to watch his games against 7-5 Houston and 7-5 ECU then

527 yards, 5 TDs against a bowl team. His field presence, accuracy, football IQ is off the charts. Stuff you can’t teach

First conference Rookie of the Year ever for Temple. And he broke Temple’s record for most yards in a season. More than PJ Walker, Russo, etc…

Maybe GW gets there, but when you see it in your own backyard — I just think you have to at least think about it in today’s transfer climate

443 passing attempts in 12 games. EJ's last game against ECU was fantastic, lights out. No debate there. So was his game (game #9 against Houston). Houston had the third worst defense in the American Conference, but let's not use Houston as a measuring stick of greatness.

But let's consider his 11th game against Cincinnati, the #1 defense in the American:
21/36 for 58.3%, 167 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT.

Also, his seventh game against Navy, the #4 defense in the American:

24/48 50% 268 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs

Also, Memphis
18/37 (48.6%) 0 TD and 3 INTs.

On to Gavin.

He started the Minnesota (#2 B1G Defense) , Michigan (#3), MSU (#10), PSU (#5) and Maryland (#8) games.

No surprise, his best game was against Michigan State. The whole team laid an egg against Maryland, including Gavin.

Please don't compare B1G defenses to any team in the American, except perhaps Cincinnati.

 

[yesrutgers01]

So- not sure where to start-

First, I do think he has some talent. But here is the thing- while we all know that tampering is running rampant in college football- it would 100% be tampering to offer him when he is not even in the portal.

 

[RUnTeX]

Put him in a body bag!!!!

Not enough "sweep the leg" in football these days

 

[RUforlife]

443 passing attempts in 12 games. EJ's last game against ECU was fantastic, lights out. No debate there. So was his game (game #9 against Houston). Houston had the third worst defense in the American Conference, but let's not use Houston as a measuring stick of greatness.

But let's consider his 11th game against Cincinnati, the #1 defense in the American:
21/36 for 58.3%, 167 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT.

Also, his seventh game against Navy, the #4 defense in the American:

24/48 50% 268 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs

Also, Memphis
18/37 (48.6%) 0 TD and 3 INTs.

On to Gavin.

He started the Minnesota (#2 B1G Defense) , Michigan (#3), MSU (#10), PSU (#5) and Maryland (#8) games.

No surprise, his best game was against Michigan State. The whole team laid an egg against Maryland, including Gavin.

Please don't compare B1G defenses to any team in the American, except perhaps Cincinnati.

What you fail to mention is that Wimsatt's #s were horrific, not just bad but horrific for a redshirt freshman QB. His completion percentage was 44.8%, that is atrocious against any defense. People on this site have been very kind to him, but to be honest, he wouldn't be playing for any FBS program based on what he produced on the field in 2022. Again, he is going to get another shot next year, we will know probably by the third game if he is the answer.

 

[Jtung230]

What you fail to mention is that Wimsatt's #s were horrific, not just bad but horrific for a redshirt freshman QB. His completion percentage was 44.8%, that is atrocious against any defense. People on this site have been very kind to him, but to be honest, he wouldn't be playing for any FBS program based on what he produced on the field in 2022. Again, he is going to get another shot next year, we will know probably by the third game if he is the answer.

Hopefully before that.

 

[yesrutgers01]

What you fail to mention is that Wimsatt's #s were horrific, not just bad but horrific for a redshirt freshman QB. His completion percentage was 44.8%, that is atrocious against any defense. People on this site have been very kind to him, but to be honest, he wouldn't be playing for any FBS program based on what he produced on the field in 2022. Again, he is going to get another shot next year, we will know probably by the third game if he is the answer.

He is getting the shot next year because Greg decided to not recruit the QB position.
I see a lot of talent with this kid but there would be no way he would be locked in at starter for any other program. But, we have no one else to take that spot.

 

[Knight Shift]

What you fail to mention is that Wimsatt's #s were horrific, not just bad but horrific for a redshirt freshman QB. His completion percentage was 44.8%, that is atrocious against any defense. People on this site have been very kind to him, but to be honest, he wouldn't be playing for any FBS program based on what he produced on the field in 2022. Again, he is going to get another shot next year, we will know probably by the third game if he is the answer.

Yeah, cause nobody else ever mentions how much our own QB sucks. Again, reading comprehension is a real problem for you. OL sucks. WRs suck (except for Ryan). When/who you going to throw to with no protection and nobody open, genius. Kind, my ***. Dipshit. You are on ignore.

 

[mdk02]

Yeah, cause nobody else ever mentions how much our own QB sucks. Again, reading comprehension is a real problem for you. OL sucks. WRs suck (except for Ryan). When/who you going to throw to with no protection and nobody open, genius. Kind, my ***. Dipshit. You are on ignore.

One of the keys for next season is the bumper crop of red shirted freshmen OL start to make contributions. One began this season. If it doesn't happen, you all are spending way too much time on the QB.

 

[newell138]

Again, its not a store where you go pick out who you want. They need to enter the portal and have a desire to play at your school

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Put him in a body bag!!!!

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