evidently not if you are black and play basketball for Kentucky.......where are all the folks who usually get so upset when a white person says it?........and don't feed me the stale party line that "blacks can use it because it's part of their language and culture"........this incident is just as bad as the frat situation at Oklahoma.....maybe even worse because the player knew there were microphones on a national stage.....why no national outrage?.......where are jessie and rev al now?.......
I thought use of the "n" word was universally unacceptable
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not outraged at all...in fact you make an excellent point also
when did this country get to the point to where you almost have to consult a manual to appropriately address someone, lest you somehow offend them? I'm sure there are other examples
when did this country get to the point to where you almost have to consult a manual to appropriately address someone, lest you somehow offend them? I'm sure there are other examples
Re: Sort of like when a woman calls a woman a *****.
More to the point, there is no outrage because it's expected behavior. There are lower standards that have been set for blacks because they've shown repeatedly their inability to meet societal norms for behavior.
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More to the point, there is no outrage because it's expected behavior. There are lower standards that have been set for blacks because they've shown repeatedly their inability to meet societal norms for behavior.
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BLACK GIRLS ROCK!
You mean like that?
I think we all know what the reaction would have been had that ditz, Laura Bush, stepped up and said "White girls rock!" at a public function ...... or anywhere.
Only a muttonhead deluxe denies the laughable hypocrisy.
You mean like that?
I think we all know what the reaction would have been had that ditz, Laura Bush, stepped up and said "White girls rock!" at a public function ...... or anywhere.
Only a muttonhead deluxe denies the laughable hypocrisy.
I guess I'm not surprised people are talking about this
and not talking about the Harrisons and Cauley-Stein walking off the court without shaking hands. Acting like petulent children instead of showing sportsmanship.
and not talking about the Harrisons and Cauley-Stein walking off the court without shaking hands. Acting like petulent children instead of showing sportsmanship.
Doesn't that get exhausting?
I can see how the Kentucky player thing could have been a bigger deal and I think the guy should have taken more heat for it. But Michelle Obama saying "Black girls rock!" pisses you off? Really? Doesn't it wear you out to constantly be on the search for ridiculous minituae regarding race for you to get outraged over?
I can see how the Kentucky player thing could have been a bigger deal and I think the guy should have taken more heat for it. But Michelle Obama saying "Black girls rock!" pisses you off? Really? Doesn't it wear you out to constantly be on the search for ridiculous minituae regarding race for you to get outraged over?
Re: not outraged at all...in fact you make an excellent point also
When did this country get to the point that we lost our common sense about not using the N word, whether we are black or white?
When did this country get to the point that we just don't use common sense any more about most things. No need to consult some manual.
When did this country get to the point that we lost our common sense about not using the N word, whether we are black or white?
When did this country get to the point that we just don't use common sense any more about most things. No need to consult some manual.
Re: Whaaaaaat?
I'lol attempt to go down this road to clarify what I was saying so you will understand it.
You take the remarks made by the player. Does anyone really care beyond the tit for tat argument? No. Is anyone really surprised by it? No. Is anyone going out to set a line in the sand for future instances? No.
An accepted different standard.
Riots in Ferguson, was anyone really shocked, sweeping change to ensure it doesn't happen again, address the issues, or concerned about it? No
If the same behavior occurred in a predominantly white beighborhood, all hell would have broken loose.
Rampant crime, low literacy/education/jobless rates. It's largely dismissed.
Flip the script, same reaction? No.
I'm not celebrating it, which by your reaction you jumped on it like it was a ***** in heat. You immediately went to the victim status. I'm sad about it. It's my perception that black culture doesn't put the same cultural pressure on behavior that is below the standard of what is acceptable. Quite the opposite actually. It's celebrated in the music, the movies, and in everyday life. It's not the same in white culture. There is more of a sense of what we termed in the Marine Corps as policing our own. We refused to be relegated to victim status and took responsibility for our actions.
Until it starts to change from inside the communities then by and large white America will not care. There is a different standard.
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I'lol attempt to go down this road to clarify what I was saying so you will understand it.
You take the remarks made by the player. Does anyone really care beyond the tit for tat argument? No. Is anyone really surprised by it? No. Is anyone going out to set a line in the sand for future instances? No.
An accepted different standard.
Riots in Ferguson, was anyone really shocked, sweeping change to ensure it doesn't happen again, address the issues, or concerned about it? No
If the same behavior occurred in a predominantly white beighborhood, all hell would have broken loose.
Rampant crime, low literacy/education/jobless rates. It's largely dismissed.
Flip the script, same reaction? No.
I'm not celebrating it, which by your reaction you jumped on it like it was a ***** in heat. You immediately went to the victim status. I'm sad about it. It's my perception that black culture doesn't put the same cultural pressure on behavior that is below the standard of what is acceptable. Quite the opposite actually. It's celebrated in the music, the movies, and in everyday life. It's not the same in white culture. There is more of a sense of what we termed in the Marine Corps as policing our own. We refused to be relegated to victim status and took responsibility for our actions.
Until it starts to change from inside the communities then by and large white America will not care. There is a different standard.
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It's not just racial
Similar trends occur in Appalachia as well, from PA to NC. It's not as much behavioral. It's more in that it's acceptable to shoot below par in life and be perfectly fine with it.
Similar trends occur in Appalachia as well, from PA to NC. It's not as much behavioral. It's more in that it's acceptable to shoot below par in life and be perfectly fine with it.
Re: Whaaaaaat?
But we are perfectly fine with lumping all "white people" together treating and treating the group like former slave owners...
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But we are perfectly fine with lumping all "white people" together treating and treating the group like former slave owners...
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Agree, if you have sh*tty lazy parents who teach you nothing
you will probably end up being lazy trash too. The difference I think is that very few of us white people have to worry about it being assumed that we are white trash whereas my black friends do not get the benefit of the doubt from some people.
you will probably end up being lazy trash too. The difference I think is that very few of us white people have to worry about it being assumed that we are white trash whereas my black friends do not get the benefit of the doubt from some people.
Re: Doesn't that get exhausting? Really?
I used the word black on this board and was chastised for two weeks claiming that was a racist statement. Bull **** with that kind of sensitivity among whites/and/or blacks. This sensitivity is being carried too far when someone is offended for the use of a term preferred by the race a year or two back.
I used the word black on this board and was chastised for two weeks claiming that was a racist statement. Bull **** with that kind of sensitivity among whites/and/or blacks. This sensitivity is being carried too far when someone is offended for the use of a term preferred by the race a year or two back.
Re: I'm white, what music does my "culture" suggest I should like?
I'm trying to explain the reality of the world and you're being a flippant little ****. If you would like to have an adult conversation then by all means let me know. Otherwise shut your yap.
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I'm trying to explain the reality of the world and you're being a flippant little ****. If you would like to have an adult conversation then by all means let me know. Otherwise shut your yap.
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Re: Agree, if you have sh*tty lazy parents who teach you nothing
And stop acting like only Liberals have black friends. You sound more ignorant than some of those you decry. At least with Doc we know he is FOS and just making statements to generate conversation. You are actually serious which is bad.
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And stop acting like only Liberals have black friends. You sound more ignorant than some of those you decry. At least with Doc we know he is FOS and just making statements to generate conversation. You are actually serious which is bad.
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Re: Doesn't that get exhausting? Really?
And United Negro College Fund is still appropriate for one of "their" major fund raisers. All hell would break loose if there were a "White College Fund" of "White Miss America". We are rather selective when speaking of unity, and I don't know how to address it to satisfy those of us who are a little too sensitive about our origin.
And United Negro College Fund is still appropriate for one of "their" major fund raisers. All hell would break loose if there were a "White College Fund" of "White Miss America". We are rather selective when speaking of unity, and I don't know how to address it to satisfy those of us who are a little too sensitive about our origin.
Re: Agree, if you have sh*tty lazy parents who teach you nothing
You mean to tell me that triple prick is not to be taken literally? Some of the times he is obviously prodding, others he is simply being a revolving prick Who thinks of himself as being an authority on the lie he is telling.
You mean to tell me that triple prick is not to be taken literally? Some of the times he is obviously prodding, others he is simply being a revolving prick Who thinks of himself as being an authority on the lie he is telling.
Re: Whaaaaaat?
Not because of perceived social injustices.
You are right in that there seems to be a large contingent that would label somebody as a sellout if they tried to conform to societal norms. It seems that "street cred" is sometimes more coveted. However, I think you see the same things in predominantly white communities that have been predominantly underprivileged. I think somebody else already mentioned parts of Appalachia.
A couple of things that have happened fairly recently. My son had a "career day" at his school, but the only career representatives that were there were mostly the things that can be found in that county, and nothing outside of it. Police, military, fireman, coal miner, nurse, etc. There was no exposure to any possibilities outside that county. You take inner city kids and what are they going to see if they even have a "career day"? And how many of those kids will think it's even attainable? This is where it needs to start changing from inside, as you said. Give examples of what's attainable outside of what they see every day.
Another thing. I had a black friend that I worked with for awhile. His dad was an architect and his mother was a nurse, and he ended up getting a degree in engineering. However, the time his parents were going to college was when segregation was still rampant. His parents didn't have any where near the opportunities that white people had at that time. Now, we know today is different, but we are still only 1 or 2 generations away from segregation. Therefore the parents and grandparents of today's kids didn't have as many opportunities as white people did, so the cycle of poverty would have been largely due to that segregation, and it's not as easy to break free from that whether you're in a white or black neighborhood.
Be it inner city or generational welfare families, it isn't overly common for people to break free from that. We are seeing more and more of it, which is good, but it's still an issue. And the issue isn't that there aren't opportunities because there are lots of them, but the issue is whether those opportunities get communicated to the kids.
White people only riot when their teams win or lose at important sporting events.
Not because of perceived social injustices.I mostly agree with your point. The above about the rioting was just an attempt at interjecting a little humor.
You are right in that there seems to be a large contingent that would label somebody as a sellout if they tried to conform to societal norms. It seems that "street cred" is sometimes more coveted. However, I think you see the same things in predominantly white communities that have been predominantly underprivileged. I think somebody else already mentioned parts of Appalachia.
A couple of things that have happened fairly recently. My son had a "career day" at his school, but the only career representatives that were there were mostly the things that can be found in that county, and nothing outside of it. Police, military, fireman, coal miner, nurse, etc. There was no exposure to any possibilities outside that county. You take inner city kids and what are they going to see if they even have a "career day"? And how many of those kids will think it's even attainable? This is where it needs to start changing from inside, as you said. Give examples of what's attainable outside of what they see every day.
Another thing. I had a black friend that I worked with for awhile. His dad was an architect and his mother was a nurse, and he ended up getting a degree in engineering. However, the time his parents were going to college was when segregation was still rampant. His parents didn't have any where near the opportunities that white people had at that time. Now, we know today is different, but we are still only 1 or 2 generations away from segregation. Therefore the parents and grandparents of today's kids didn't have as many opportunities as white people did, so the cycle of poverty would have been largely due to that segregation, and it's not as easy to break free from that whether you're in a white or black neighborhood.
Be it inner city or generational welfare families, it isn't overly common for people to break free from that. We are seeing more and more of it, which is good, but it's still an issue. And the issue isn't that there aren't opportunities because there are lots of them, but the issue is whether those opportunities get communicated to the kids.
Keyser, are you going to do your part like Bob is doing?
Ferguson, Missouri (CNN): Reginald Rounds gets out his clipboard and a bottle of an electric blue
energy drink before he begins walking through a leafy Ward 2
neighborhood filled with brick ranch-style houses. The man he is
supporting is Bob Hudgins, a newcomer to politics.
Bob Hudgins attracted attention as a white man
who routinely stood with protesters on the front lines. He likes to
talk about how he married a black woman and has a biracial teenage son.
"I've
tried to use my white privilege to break down what's happening here to
white folks," he says. "There's such a waste of human potential here.
Young black people are held back because of the system."
Rounds has a neighborhood map and a list of registered voters identified by the Hudgins campaign as potential supporters.
Ferguson, Missouri (CNN): Reginald Rounds gets out his clipboard and a bottle of an electric blue
energy drink before he begins walking through a leafy Ward 2
neighborhood filled with brick ranch-style houses. The man he is
supporting is Bob Hudgins, a newcomer to politics.
Bob Hudgins attracted attention as a white man
who routinely stood with protesters on the front lines. He likes to
talk about how he married a black woman and has a biracial teenage son.
"I've
tried to use my white privilege to break down what's happening here to
white folks," he says. "There's such a waste of human potential here.
Young black people are held back because of the system."
Rounds has a neighborhood map and a list of registered voters identified by the Hudgins campaign as potential supporters.