I was 100% on the Lebby train until last night

[HailStout]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

 

[Baddog11]

You are right.

 

[Seinfeld]

He is playing a PlayStation offense with a living and breathing college football team. There is no strategy or structure, and there is no rhyme or reason to anything he does. We may as well toss him a PS5 controller because he’s making critical decisions on a whim, and it’s frankly embarrassing

 

[ABiggerUglierJoe]

The Lebby train wants to take a left down Main Street even though the tracks keep going straight.

 

[ronpolk]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

I never understood what Lebby had done to have anyone think he was moving things in the right direction. I will give him credit for clearly upgrading the talent this but he’s wasting everyone’s money. The fact that we got people committed to making sure we can secure players on the NIL front is great, but there is no way I’d throw my money at a program with Lebby in charge. He’s a joke.

I made a post before the season started that if Lebby got to 5 wins I’d shut up about wanting him gone. I guess if I didn’t watch the games, I’d have the ability to be impressed with going from 2 to 5 wins but actually seeing the results makes me more confident than ever that Lebby is a disaster.

 

[Seinfeld]

And let me add, I guess we’ll see what next season brings, but I am completely checked out. Watching that moron call a game like he did last night does nothing but bring anger and bewilderment into my life, and I don’t have time for it.

So now we’ll all sit and hope that he finds a few diamonds in the rough out of his trainwreck of a recruiting class, and surely he and Hutz will build an SEC quality OL and DL via the portal. We all have complete faith in that, right?

Best thing everyone can do right now is prepare yourselves for the giant kick in the nuts we’ll get when KT looks at the portal, and honestly… who in the world would blame him?

 

[GloryDawg]

They have progressively digressed each week since the Texas game. If we had play Arkansas last week or this week we would have loss. Arkansas, they did not look like a good football team. Arkansas was just worse than them. Last week looked worse and this week worse. There is something going on.

 

[Seinfeld]

They have progressively digressed each week since the Texas game. If we had play Arkansas last week or this week we would have loss. Arkansas, they did not look like a good football team. Arkansas was just worse than them. Last week looked worse and this week worse. There is something going on.

If people will watch the 2nd half of the Ark game again one more time and be honest with themselves, we had no business winning that game. We did for two reasons

1) Kamario Taylor
2) Shapen getting absolutely bailed out on three separate 3rd/4th down passes in which Evans or BT made amazing catches

I’m not hating on Shapen, but just calling a spade a spade. He wasn’t exactly throwing dimes during that comeback

 

[ckDOG]

I'm off. We are our own worst enemy. We've clearly been positions to win this year, which is credit to Lebby, but we piss away our opportunities. UF, UT, UTenn, and Mizzou were all realistically winnable games that were brain farted away through weird calls, untimely penalties, and poor execution. Seems to be a feature not a bug at this point.

 

[msstatelp1]

They have progressively digressed each week since the Texas game. If we had play Arkansas last week or this week we would have loss. Arkansas, they did not look like a good football team. Arkansas was just worse than them. Last week looked worse and this week worse. There is something going on.

Is it possible there’s a locker room problem? Maybe a QB controversy? The team seems to respond better with KT playing but Lebby keeps putting Shapen in.

 

[HailStout]

Seems to be a feature not a bug at this point.

I think this is what clicked with me last night

 

[Walkthedawg]

I just seriously don’t know what can be done. This is a terrible year to be coach shopping. But we have a terrible coach. We run the risk of finding someone just as bad, after paying a buyout, and giving them another buyout.

But the other things too. No matter the coach, our players do dumb **** continually. Happened under Jackie, Croom, Mullen, Moorehead, Leach, Arnett, and now Lebby. Stuff that drives a youth football coach mad. Absolutely dumb **** that costs drive after drive. You don’t see that as much anywhere else. I’m not talking about Alabama… I’m talking like Vandy or even BYU.

And the program as a whole. It can’t take success. Something has to go wrong. If we win a big game at home, well the people directing traffic will find a way to hold people on campus till 3AM…. For a 2:30 game.

It’s madness. Absolute madness.

 

[gtowndawg]

I've said it for a month, he doesn't have the brainpower for this job and I honestly think he knows it. That's not fixable. We fire him now or lose a ton of money next year and then fire him. We're screwed either way with him.

 

[Doubledawgblitz]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

You are right - wished one could say differently. He's not prepared to be a HC and some people aren't meant to be such.

 

[josebrown]

When enough light shines on something, the truth will have to be seen. You are correct. Everyone doesn’t always see it at the same time.

 

[Doubledawgblitz]

If people will watch the 2nd half of the Ark game again one more time and be honest with themselves, we had no business winning that game. We did for two reasons

1) Kamario Taylor
2) Shapen getting absolutely bailed out on three separate 3rd/4th down passes in which Evans or BT made amazing catches

I’m not hating on Shapen, but just calling a spade a spade. He wasn’t exactly throwing dimes during that comeback

100% especially the Thompson catch.

 

[gtowndawg]

If people will watch the 2nd half of the Ark game again one more time and be honest with themselves, we had no business winning that game. We did for two reasons

1) Kamario Taylor
2) Shapen getting absolutely bailed out on three separate 3rd/4th down passes in which Evans or BT made amazing catches

I’m not hating on Shapen, but just calling a spade a spade. He wasn’t exactly throwing dimes during that comeback

And the refs called every penalty they could possibly think of on Arkansas and we still barely one.

 

[Chesusdog]

From first and goal on the 2 to the worst field goal snap I've ever seen in my life, I feel like decisions were being made by an idiot. How many times did we call QB runs by #2 or is he taking that upon himself? Even with #1, at least try getting to the edge. Meanwhile Booth and Bothwell had 1 carry apiece going into half.

They showed real imagination and creativity in using both QBs at the same time then never go back to that again.

And the defense, my god the lack of effort in trying to tackle was mind boggling. You have to try to not try that hard. Yes, it was exactly that stupid.

Fire both line coaches and invest serious money into bringing in talent to protect and rush the passer.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The rest of the sheep will be off the wagon when we lose to Ole Miss at home in 2 weeks. Thats the only thing that motivates us.

Pretty pathetic that Lane’s level of distraction is the sole factor in our chances of winning that game. But unlike Danny in 2017, Lane has a playoff berth to motivate him, rather than a meaningless bowl game.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

He has the hard headed mentality of JoMo and his playcalling and that’s pretty alarming.

He’s not going anywhere unless some of these money people throw big enough fit to force Selmon’s hand. Even if he were let go I don’t trust the hiring process with anyone involved. You guys throw out all these names and it’s never any of them anyway. He will just hire some other coordinator and get a rinse repeat of the same thing.

 

[HailStout]

Even if he were let go I don’t trust the hiring process with anyone involved. You guys throw out all these names and it’s never any of them anyway. He will just hire some other coordinator and get a rinse repeat of the same thing.

That’s the other side of this coin. If we fire him (we won’t) I don’t see it helping anything

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That’s the other side of this coin. If we fire him (we won’t) I don’t see it helping anything

Exactly. Just a bunch of wishful thinking

 

[HailStout]

Exactly. Just a bunch of wishful thinking

So, what do you do? If you were Selmon looking at this what has to happen? Do you just let this entire coaching staff come back for round three?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

So, what do you do? If you were Selmon looking at this what has to happen? Do you just let this entire coaching staff come back for round three?

Pray for another fight in the parking lot after practice where KT gets a black eye and can’t play

 

[NotCadaver]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

I'm with you. Exactly where I am after yesterday's game. That comic show inside the 10 with 7 chances, and seeing us run QB draw after QB draw, and then the Field Goal clown show that followed. There's being bad, being out talented, I can live with that. But being an embarrassment and looking clueless while YOUR players look like a comedy routine in a SEC game, can't have that.

Lebby went from potential hot commodity early in the year, to chopping block. And it's his fault. That was a coaching **** show last night. He better bring in Art and try to figure out a miracle plan for Thanksgiving, because Selmon will give him 2026 but that doesn't mean fans will be in attendance to watch it.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

I'm with you. Exactly where I am after yesterday's game. That comic show inside the 10 with 7 chances, and seeing us run QB draw after QB draw, and then the Field Goal clown show that followed. There's being bad, being out talented, I can live with that. But being an embarrassment and looking clueless while YOUR players look like a comedy routine in a SEC game, can't have that.

Lebby went from potential hot commodity early in the year, to chopping block. And it's his fault. That was a coaching **** show last night. He better bring in Art and try to figure out a miracle plan for Thanksgiving, because Selmon will give him 2026 but that doesn't mean fans will be in attendance to watch it.

I don’t remember this. We were still unranked at 4-0 with a Top 15 win, but I don’t remember anyone interested in poaching a coach that had not won a conference game.

 

[Baddog11]

Lebby will just buy all the tickets so the numbers still look good.

 

[ronpolk]

I'm with you. Exactly where I am after yesterday's game. That comic show inside the 10 with 7 chances, and seeing us run QB draw after QB draw, and then the Field Goal clown show that followed. There's being bad, being out talented, I can live with that. But being an embarrassment and looking clueless while YOUR players look like a comedy routine in a SEC game, can't have that.

Lebby went from potential hot commodity early in the year, to chopping block. And it's his fault. That was a coaching **** show last night. He better bring in Art and try to figure out a miracle plan for Thanksgiving, because Selmon will give him 2026 but that doesn't mean fans will be in attendance to watch it.

Lebby was never a hot commodity.

 

[NotCadaver]

From first and goal on the 2 to the worst field goal snap I've ever seen in my life, I feel like decisions were being made by an idiot. How many times did we call QB runs by #2 or is he taking that upon himself? Even with #1, at least try getting to the edge. Meanwhile Booth and Bothwell had 1 carry apiece going into half.

They showed real imagination and creativity in using both QBs at the same time then never go back to that again.

And the defense, my god the lack of effort in trying to tackle was mind boggling. You have to try to not try that hard. Yes, it was exactly that stupid.

Fire both line coaches and invest serious money into bringing in talent to protect and rush the passer.

Agree on all of this. Why has he abandoned the running game with our RB's? I understand we have some injuries, but if you don't feel like Bothwell or Booth can gain yards, what makes you think the QB will? Especially when everyone in the country knows when 1 is in the game he's running.

and our defense went from looking like heroes early this year back to the "act like I'm being blocked and don't get involved in the tackle" mode lately. That is shameful, prideless, and embarrassing. And all of that is coaching.
I want Hutzler gone, and anyone involved in our line play on both sides, since Lebby is likely here another year

 

[NotCadaver]

Lebby was never a hot commodity.

Let me rephrase. He was headed TOWARDS being a hot commodity. Had he beaten Tennessee (should have), or Texas, or even Florida. Talking heads were ready to give him "SEC coach of the year" votes. And then the bottom has absolutely fallen out now. After crapping away those opportunities, we have regressed. And now it's just flat embarrassing .

So, correct. He was never a hot commodity. I misspoke. I meant he was headed towards it early, and now is a laughing stock.

 

[ckDOG]

Let me rephrase. He was headed TOWARDS being a hot commodity. Had he beaten Tennessee (should have), or Texas, or even Florida. Talking heads were ready to give him "SEC coach of the year" votes. And then the bottom has absolutely fallen out now. After crapping away those opportunities, we have regressed. And now it's just flat embarrassing .

So, correct. He was never a hot commodity. I misspoke. I meant he was headed towards it early, and now is a laughing stock.

It was the combo of this year's silliest of silly seasons and outsiders looking at 5 wins as evidence of a resurrected program and ignoring all the bone headed stuff. Hell, that may still be the perception even after a crap close out to the season. Maybe we will get lucky and programs in a real pinch get cornered into doing something really funny and bailing us out? This offseason is going to insane and head scratching.

 

[patdog]

He has the hard headed mentality of JoMo and his playcalling and that’s pretty alarming.

He’s not going anywhere unless some of these money people throw big enough fit to force Selmon’s hand. Even if he were let go I don’t trust the hiring process with anyone involved. You guys throw out all these names and it’s never any of them anyway. He will just hire some other coordinator and get a rinse repeat of the same thing.

The 2 guys in charge hired Arnett & Lebby. So yeah, zero confidence in them at all.

 

[patdog]

So, what do you do? If you were Selmon looking at this what has to happen? Do you just let this entire coaching staff come back for round three?

If I were Selmon, I’d make the move today. Few if the jobs open now would impact our hire & if we move now we could get a head start on other schools whose jobs might come open when the big ones are filled. But Selmon is Selmon so nothing will change. Get ready for year 3 of Lebby, Hutzler, Loadhilt, & no OC.

 

[patdog]

I'm with you. Exactly where I am after yesterday's game. That comic show inside the 10 with 7 chances, and seeing us run QB draw after QB draw, and then the Field Goal clown show that followed. There's being bad, being out talented, I can live with that. But being an embarrassment and looking clueless while YOUR players look like a comedy routine in a SEC game, can't have that.

Lebby went from potential hot commodity early in the year, to chopping block. And it's his fault. That was a coaching **** show last night. He better bring in Art and try to figure out a miracle plan for Thanksgiving, because Selmon will give him 2026 but that doesn't mean fans will be in attendance to watch it.

Lebby was never a hot commodity.

 

[patdog]

Agree on all of this. Why has he abandoned the running game with our RB's? I understand we have some injuries, but if you don't feel like Bothwell or Booth can gain yards, what makes you think the QB will? Especially when everyone in the country knows when 1 is in the game he's running.

and our defense went from looking like heroes early this year back to the "act like I'm being blocked and don't get involved in the tackle" mode lately. That is shameful, prideless, and embarrassing. And all of that is coaching.
I want Hutzler gone, and anyone involved in our line play on both sides, since Lebby is likely here another year

Our best RB had 25 yards on 6 carries & went 30 minutes between his 1st & 2nd carry.

 

[DoomSlayer]

I was at a wedding yesterday and stayed away from the score and watched early this morning. After that **** show in the 2nd quarter where we ran 3 QB draws inside the 5, get bailed out and a fresh set of downs, run another QB draw up the middle that goes nowhere, delay of game penalty, then ANOTHER QB draw up the middle on 2nd and goal from the 10, then the botched field goal snap, I immediately skipped to the end so I could see the final score and then turned the tv off. It was one of the absolute worst sequences I have ever seen in my 30 years watching football.

 

[mcdawg22]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

I am exactly the same. My issue is unless there is a clear plan (Mullen or a clear successful group of 5 coach), you can’t move on this year. It’s too late to join the fray and too many people on the carousel.

 

[HailStout]

Our best RB had 25 yards on 6 carries & went 30 minutes between his 1st & 2nd carry.

That is coaching malpractice

 

[Bneal]

I'm off. We are our own worst enemy. We've clearly been positions to win this year, which is credit to Lebby, but we piss away our opportunities. UF, UT, UTenn, and Mizzou were all realistically winnable games that were brain farted away through weird calls, untimely penalties, and poor execution. Seems to be a feature not a bug at this point.

He seems incredibly Clueless from the minute of kickoff to the final horn. Plus when your transfers are from Old Dominon and South Alabama I don’t know if there has been a talent upgrade. They play hard but also play dumb. I haven’t watched in 5 weeks.

 

[DawgNsuds]

Yes I cussed the idiotic decisions, clock management, etc. That being said, I felt like he was pushing us the right direction and would get us there. After last night, I really don’t think I feel that way anymore. I think back to mullen’s first year. Outside of the the goal line series against LSU, I don’t think I questioned Mullen much at all. I was ecstatic. And we only won 5 games. This doesn’t feel like that at all.

I need the more level headed posters to tell me if I am just being emotional or if I am right on this one.

Same, believed we should let this and next season play out for many reasons. Last nights performance has me seriously questioning that