Can you provide a single piece of evidence tying this VA nurse to China? Other than random bots on Twitter?
ICE murders another unarmed person
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Sit back and watch the investigation as it unfolds and more evidence comes out...
He wasn't fired you crazy person and was still working at the same job when he was murdered. China, insurrectionist...herp derp derp...these are LIES you're being fed, not TRUTHS. Get it through your head that the accounts you follow are completely uninterested in giving you good information and that's why you look batshit crazy to people who live in the real world.
I've wrestled with this one myself and I don't have a good answer for you, personally HOWEVER, this is one of the very few cases where our politicians will actually be able to make themselves useful. Here's a couple of examples (1 from each side of the aisle). Prior to Roe vs. Wade being overturned, Congress passed a bill forbidding any use of funds to planned parenthood for abortions (even though abortion was the law of the land during that time). Congress has passed bills for years forbidding DEA federal funds from being used to arrest people for Marijuana use/selling/growing in states where it's legal to do so EVEN THOUGH marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug at the federal level. And multiple Presidents have signed off on both. So even though you made a really good point, our politicians already have this one solved.
Im at min as confident as you tards are when you make claims about people on the right. The groups signal chat was exposed and he was part of it as was Good...
no answer for the first, but I've thought for a long time the people making our laws are high..maybe they have a vested interest in the marijuana language.
I'm pretty sure that any attempt to limit executive authority on the immigration thing wouldn't make it through a veto.
It's a shame that we, as a country, have been ignoring this issue for 30 years.
It wasn't exposed. It's no different than having a police scanner.
And as huck said, it's literally no different than a group chat.
Both sides like running on it too much seemingly, just different sides of that coin
@TigerRagRob Can you show me your source here?
Some red flags are popping up for me.
First, I don't know that I've ever seen a contraction used in a legal statute... specifically: "A PTC does not allow carry at a political rally if it's officially designated as such".
Secondly. When I look up Minn. Stat. § 624.7181 (note this is the Minn Legislature's Website, so it's the official place for laws and statutes) I get this which does not even mention handguns. Note in your quote, the lack of definitions of what a handgun or even what a rally is... just some vague wording about officially official purpose (by whom). Compare this to an ACTUAL LAW on the official website. Here's a cut and past of the ACTUAL Minn. Stat. § 624.7181
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624.7181 RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES.
Subdivision 1.Definitions.
For purposes of this section, the following terms have the meanings given them.
(a) "BB gun" means a device that fires or ejects a shot measuring .18 of an inch or less in diameter.
(b) "Carry" does not include:
(1) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun to, from, or at a place where firearms are repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed, or where hunting, target shooting, or other lawful activity involving firearms occurs, or at funerals, parades, or other lawful ceremonies;
(2) the carrying by a person of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun that is unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, if the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and no portion of the firearm is exposed;
(3) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section 624.714;
(4) the carrying of an antique firearm as a curiosity or for its historical significance or value; or
(5) the transporting of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun in compliance with section 97B.045.
(c) "Public place" means property owned, leased, or controlled by a governmental unit and private property that is regularly and frequently open to or made available for use by the public in sufficient numbers to give clear notice of the property's current dedication to public use but does not include: a person's dwelling house or premises, the place of business owned or managed by the person, or land possessed by the person; a gun show, gun shop, or hunting or target shooting facility; or the woods, fields, or waters of this state where the person is present lawfully for the purpose of hunting or target shooting or other lawful activity involving firearms.
Subd. 2.Penalties.
Whoever carries a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person under the age of 21 who carries a semiautomatic military-style assault weapon, as defined in section 624.712, subdivision 7, on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a felony.
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Subd. 3.Exceptions.
This section does not apply to officers, employees, or agents of law enforcement agencies or the armed forces of this state or the United States, or private detectives or protective agents, to the extent that these persons are authorized by law to carry firearms and are acting in the scope of their official duties.
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Third: When I just search on Minn laws Carrying Firearms at Public Gatherings I don't get a specific law or statute.
And Lastly: "There is no prohibition on a permit holder carrying a firearm, loaded with multiple magazines at a protest or rally in Minnesota," the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus said in a statement. Granted, this is a quote from a news article, but it's a direct quote from a group that would probably know if there was a restriction.
And just to be above board and prove that I'm cutting and pasting the REAL Statute (which you SHOULD NOT TRUST). Here's the link to the law he's "Quoting"... sans source. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.7181
So given your history of... shall we say "unproven statements" that you've passed off as fact. I'm dropping the bulllshiit card here. I think it's fair to ask for a link to the law you are quoting. If you can do that... I'll tip my hat to you and say that I was wrong. So I'll hang up and listen...
Edit/Update: Honestly, there didn't seem to be enough restrictions on carrying firearms... I mean every state says you can't have them in courthouses and state owned buildings, and MOST States say you can't carry in schools. Here are some Minn laws that I found with a deeper dive. four Minnesota statutes that describe where gun permit holders are prohibited from carrying a firearm: sections 243.55, 609.66, 624.714 and 641.165. Minnesota statute Section 243.55 prohibits people from carrying guns into a state correctional facility or state hospital; 609.66 prohibits firearm possession in courthouses, certain state buildings and on school property; and 641.165 prohibits taking guns into jails, lockups and correctional facilities. Section 624.714, largely concerns penalties for carrying a weapon without a permit. That's all I could find. No mention of political rallies and protests.
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You know what, Ned. I would agree that Pretti made a poor choice in bring a gun with him to street protests against ICE and DHS. Even if all he planned to do was make videos of ICE/DHS activities on his cell phone. He had a right to open carry in Minnesota, to be sure. He also had a right to be there taking video. But having that gun on him may well have pissed off some of these trigger happy goons. It obviously provided a bit of pretextual fodder for Noem, Bovino, and Miller (along with various MAGA commentators) to argue that his mere act of carrying a gun (even if legal) justified the Agents' application of deadly force. The irony there is thick, given that most MAGA folks have historically been (and likely remain) big Second Amendment advocates. Even the NRA felt obliged to weigh in on the side of Pretti. THAT was frickin' hilarious.
But carrying a gun does not appear to be why Pretti was killed. The agents in question clearly had it in for him. They pepper sprayed the crap out of him while he was attempting to escort that woman AWAY from the scene. Then, they pummeled him. Then, they removed his gun. Finally, they proceeded to put ten (10) bullets in him.
I'm not sure it matters whether these agents were ICE or DHS. The fact remains that Trump put them there, and they were WAY out of control. That has to change.
It wasn't a "political rally." They were merely taking video footage of ICE/DHS thugs in action. So he had every right to carry.
That was easy. Care to try again, Trump Cultist?
Duh, Catturd told him it was a deep state, underground terrorist network funded by the Chinese, silly man!
I don't disagree with most of your thoughts...having a gun there was dumb, (who hasn't done dumb things) but when he was shot, he was unarmed. I still haven't seen any confirmation or negation of the belief that pretti's gun discharged. That simple thing might have been the catalyst for two offices to shoot him. The investigation will go on, and I believe the officers will be charged and a jury will have to determine if the "reasonableness" of shooting will be determined. It's a shame all the way around.
It does appear as if his death might be the basis for some calm to return to Minneapolis...but who knows.
No, Alex Pretti did not kick the taillight of an ICE vehicle.
While a protester did kick an ICE vehicle's taillight during a crowd confrontation in Powderhorn Park, Minneapolis, that individual escaped capture. Reports indicate that Pretti's encounter with ICE agents a week prior to his death occurred when he saw agents chasing a family; he stopped his car and began shouting and blowing a whistle. During that earlier confrontation, Pretti was tackled by five agents and suffered a broken rib but was released at the scene.
It does look like him. Still doesn't mean it's ok to kill him a week later while filming.
well here's a likely unpopular reaction...yes very poor actions by pretti....but what he did the week before doesn't really have any direct bearing on what he did the day he was killed. Was he an agitator? Sure looks like it, but still a actions on one day don't directly lead to justification to shoot him the following week. IMO
There are a lot of things pretti could have done differently or shouldn't have done at all...first and foremost IMO was to carry a gun.
I guess it really doesn't matter how we see things. There will be an investigation and all of this will be brought out. The agents involved will get their chance to explain their actions and someone will make a determination of their fate.
1 more time and I’ll just sit back and watch
Oh and this was directed at who I tagged. He assured us a couple days ago how peaceful these protests were
He lost me at "resisted arrest" and who decides where it's appropriate to carry a firearm?
Keep reading........ You are also admitting he wasnt a peaceful protester now. There is no scenario he or his group come out of this looking like anything other than what they are according to them in that group. Its coordinated and planned with leaders. So they should lawyer up because its not legal what they are doing....It wasn't a "political rally." They were merely taking video footage of ICE/DHS thugs in action. So he had every right to carry.
That was easy. Care to try again, Trump Cultist?
Well you seem to be a Chinese sympathizer and sellout. Pushing CCP propaganda every day...
Yes, we have lots of examples of people on Neighborhood Watch apps being dragged to court in chains and being jailed for years. Dude, nothing will come from this, your handlers are just tricking you into believing these are a bunch of master criminals and you're swallowing it. Derp
I dunno, dpic. I’m a little inclined to take the opinion of a Purple Heart recipient that happens to be a co-host of the most successful news station in America over a purple headed whack job that post on a fn football message board non stop
Purple Heart recipient > Purpled headed freak
I'm inclined to believe you felt completely different when this underage vigilante shot three libs, didn't you?
PS - I don't give a **** what his credentials are, we all saw the video and know he wasn't being arrested, nor was he resisiting.
PSS - I didn't intentionally dye it purple, the box said Cotton Candy Chaos.
Posting stuff like this points out the disturbing priorities of libs as they ignore when Americans are killed by illegals and the msm doesn't even report on it but they go apeshit when a protester gets injured or killed interfering with law enforcement apprehending illegals. Its a warped sense of priorities imo.
To make you happy though its been widely reported on conservative and neutral media that overall deaths are down this past year due to Trump policies so be happy.
Also you don’t give a **** what credentials are? Dude lost both his legs protecting your phaggott ***. Show some gdamn respect, limp phvck
I respect what he's done for this country but that does not mean I have to accept lies that I can easily disprove by watching the actual videos. F off twerp
Don't change the subject- undocumented people are about 4% of the population and commit crime at a far less rate. That means all your propaganda about them being a drain on society, a net negative, and ESPECIALLY dangerous is simply wrong.
The draconian measures to deport them by sending masked armed men into the streets of America is unnecessary and ridiculous.
to be fair this is after he antagonized protestors and shot one. So he was trying to get behind that thin blue line as fast as possible.