ICE murders another unarmed person

JohnHughsPartner

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We should all just save each other the time and admit ..
Most everyone on the left is gonna say this is murder and most everyone on the right is gonna say self defense and justified
 
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fatpiggy

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You can see at the 1:00 minute mark just before the shooting, the border patrol reacts to seeing a weapon and then immediately draws his.

The Feds have a right to enforce the law no matter how bad the Democrat temper tantrum. A good way to not get killed is to not interfere with their work. It’s not that deep as the kids would say.
 
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fatpiggy

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We should all just save each other the time and admit ..
Most everyone on the left is gonna say this is murder and most everyone on the right is gonna say self defense and justified
Nah. Once the left sees the sh it stain had a weapon they will have no choice but to side with the officers.
 
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Welp ... there are 2 ways to look at this:

1. The federal government clearing condoning these types of actions, and lying about these actions repeatedly, will ensure the Second Reich doesn't last beyond mid-terms, or the next POTUS election, at the longest, assuming some semblance of our democracy endures;

2. The federal government's willingness to conduct these actions, condone these actions, and even blatantly lie to support said actions lends credibility that the complete transition away from a representative democracy is forthcoming, so we may not get the chance to get rid of them by democratic means.
 

JohnHughsPartner

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You can see at the 1:00 minute mark just before the shooting, the border patrol reacts to seeing a weapon and then immediately draws his.

The Feds have a right to enforce the law no matter how bad the Democrat temper tantrum. A good way to not get killed is to not interfere with their work. It’s not that deep as the kids would say.
Yes you can clearly hear gun, gun
 
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Moogy

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You can see at the 1:00 minute mark just before the shooting, the border patrol reacts to seeing a weapon and then immediately draws his.

The Feds have a right to enforce the law no matter how bad the Democrat temper tantrum. A good way to not get killed is to not interfere with their work. It’s not that deep as the kids would say.

You're a good little Nazi. Hitler would be proud of you. Orange Hitler thanks you.
 

baltimorened

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We should all just save each other the time and admit ..
Most everyone on the left is gonna say this is murder and most everyone on the right is gonna say self defense and justified
I looked at the video and I honestly can't tell anything one way or the other. I'm sure there will be others and maybe better viewing areas.

But I did see a picture of "lines drawn", protesters on one side and a line of agents on the other. Is there anyone other than me, who really thinks that 1. this accomplishes little, if anything. 2. these kinds of situations only provide the opportunities for more disasters.

Everyone has the right to protest. But protesting does not have to be confrontational.

Wouldn't it make sense to have leaders encourage people to protest peacefully away from the agents, encourage them to follow agents orders, and eliminate the antagonism? ICE is going to do their jobs. Notice these shooting events have involved protesters and not the migrants.
 
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fatpiggy

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I looked at the video and I honestly can't tell anything one way or the other. I'm sure there will be others and maybe better viewing areas.

But I did see a picture of "lines drawn", protesters on one side and a line of agents on the other. Is there anyone other than me, who really thinks that 1. this accomplishes little, if anything. 2. these kinds of situations only provide the opportunities for more disasters.

Everyone has the right to protest. But protesting does not have to be confrontational.
You have the right to *peacefully protest.
 
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fatpiggy

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Not much is clear from the video, but I do hear “gun!, gun!”.

I also see the border patrol visibly react to seeing something while looking at the protester. Whatever he saw caused him to draw his weapon.

The audio “gun!, gun!” Is at the same time as the visual reaction of the agent. Was it him yelling gun, or did more than one person see a gun?

Hard to believe these people want to put their lives on the line for people here illegally and most of them criminals to boot.
 
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dpic73

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You can see at the 1:00 minute mark just before the shooting, the border patrol reacts to seeing a weapon and then immediately draws his.

The Feds have a right to enforce the law no matter how bad the Democrat temper tantrum. A good way to not get killed is to not interfere with their work. It’s not that deep as the kids would say.
I'm guessing you ignored this new angle. Can you watch it and tell me when you see him pulling a gun?

 

tboonpickens

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I looked at the video and I honestly can't tell anything one way or the other. I'm sure there will be others and maybe better viewing areas.

But I did see a picture of "lines drawn", protesters on one side and a line of agents on the other. Is there anyone other than me, who really thinks that 1. this accomplishes little, if anything. 2. these kinds of situations only provide the opportunities for more disasters.

Everyone has the right to protest. But protesting does not have to be confrontational.

Wouldn't it make sense to have leaders encourage people to protest peacefully away from the agents, encourage them to follow agents orders, and eliminate the antagonism? ICE is going to do their jobs. Notice these shooting events have involved protesters and not the migrants.
ned must have been a real laugh riot during the Civil Rights Era of the 60s
 
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baltimorened

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Not much is clear from the video, but I do hear “gun!, gun!”.

I also see the border patrol visibly react to seeing something while looking at the protester. Whatever he saw caused him to draw his weapon.

The audio “gun!, gun!” Is at the same time as the visual reaction of the agent. Was it him yelling gun, or did more than one person see a gun?

Hard to believe these people want to put their lives on the line for people here illegally and most of them criminals to boot.
why would anyone carry a gun and extra magazine to a protest like this?

Next questions will surround license for the weapon, concealed carry permit etc.
 

baltimorened

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Both of his hands are in front of him on the ground.
you either have better eyesight than I do, (which wouldn't be hard) or you are seeing a different video than I, but I can't even see his hands.
 

dpic73

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Both of his hands are in front of him on the ground.
Wow, another new angle that proves unequivocally he didn't have a gun in his hands. :mad:
 

tboonpickens

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Both of his hands are in front of him on the ground.
these ******* cowards. the guy is getting sprayed in the face and trying to help a woman who has been knocked down and sprayed in the face herself.

then he has 6 or 7 goons on top of him while he's on all fours and they execute him while claiming that these 6 or 7 pussies were afraid for THEIR lives?

and then you have cowards like ned and fatpiggy defending this ****
 

tboonpickens

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Seems like not seeing things clearly is an ongoing issue with you.
maybe because he's 80 and needs some ******* cataract surgery. i think at this point ned just needs to go sit down in his depends and eat some applesauce. his perspective on any element of reality is worthless.
 
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fatpiggy

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these ******* cowards. the guy is getting sprayed in the face and trying to help a woman who has been knocked down and sprayed in the face herself.

then he has 6 or 7 goons on top of him while he's on all fours and they execute him while claiming that these 6 or 7 pussies were afraid for THEIR lives?

and then you have cowards like ned and fatpiggy defending this ****
They could ….. just gtfo of the way. It’s that simple. No one feels sorry for them. Their stupidity is getting them killed.
 

tboonpickens

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I never thought people would be ok with interfering with law enforcement.
really???

Donald Trump GIF by Creative Courage
 

tigres88

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I'm guessing you ignored this new angle. Can you watch it and tell me when you see him pulling a gun?


This is unequivocal. A woman was getting pepper sprayed, this man tried to block it. He got pepper sprayed and tried to block her WITH HIS BODY from getting pepper sprayed more. They dragged him off her, beat him senseless. Then shot him.

No guns seen other than the ICE agents guns. The murdered him, once again, in Cold blood
 

JohnHughsPartner

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why would anyone carry a gun and extra magazine to a protest like this?

Next questions will surround license for the weapon, concealed carry permit etc.
That’s a great fn question, but will get ignored from our queens on here.

With him having an extra magazine, I doubt he was there to hold hands and sing kumbaya
 
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tigres88

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That’s a great fn question, but will get ignored from our queens on here.

With him having an extra magazine, I doubt he was there to hold hands and sing kumbaya
yall are literally the party of don't tread on me, don't take my guns. this is an open carry state, with masked federal agents with guns accosting citizens. And you wonder WHY he had a gun?
 

tboonpickens

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Show me a post of me defending those people?

And I’ve always said Ashleigh Babbit, unfortunately, got what she deserved. Same with this person. They deserved every bit of what they got.
you realize we all have the right to peaceful protest in this country, right?

the guy was sprayed in the face, then attempted to help a fallen woman who was being sprayed. then he was wolfpacked by 6-7 agents.

what exactly did he do that deserved this outcome?

 

dpic73

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I never thought people would be ok with interfering with law enforcement.
We never thought a vengeful clown POTUS would overwhelm a peaceful, medium sized city with a bunch of jack-booted thugs with immunity to be as brutal as they want to be, including murder simply for POLITICAL RETRIBUTION. He knew this would enrage the population and he got what he wanted - now he has another excuse to crack down even harder.

Your side will not win and we're not going to forget how you mfers behaved during this period.