ICE murders another unarmed person

ANEW

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moratorium doesn't mean give the petulant children what they want.
From my experience with children and dogs, rewarding bad behavior now does not produce better behavior later. It just makes it harder and extends the drama,
 

fatpiggy

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moratorium doesn't mean give the petulant children what they want. There is no reason for loss of American life, or fingers for that matter. Rational people can take a step back and let things calm down.
Rational people understand if you cave to the mob you don’t have rule of law.

We have laws and we voted on this. We either have a democracy or we don’t.
 

TigerRagRob

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ICE doesn’t identify themselves and they are showing up in masks, unmarked vehicles, and armed to the teeth. In the heat of the moment you can’t tell if you’re being g approached by law enforcement or the cartel. Anyone “interfering” or “resisting” ICE with the way they are operating is deemed to be acting in self defense or as a Good Samaritan. If a bunch of unarmed men show up to your door and refuse to show ID, state why they are there, or provide any legitimate documentation as to why they are on your doorstep, how would you react?
They have aps where they track ICE everywhere. The social media gives it away that they know who it is. They do call to actions against ICE operations so nice try trying to play dumb. Many have Police or ICE on their uniforms. They know exactly who they are. You wont get away with playing dumb like you didnt know...
 

tigres88

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From my experience with children and dogs, rewarding bad behavior now does not produce better behavior later. It just makes it harder and extends the drama,
This is the EXACT argument for fighting against a tyrannical government who is using draconian and authoritarian methods against its own people. If we don't, the government will only continue to impose its will.

This is also Conservatism 101
 

TigerRagRob

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That’s what’s so sad. A majority of Americans supposedly voted for fascist authoritarianism and unprecedented corruption in the White House. We could’ve had a reasonable president who is intelligent, instead we have a corrupt pedophile who is being controlled by Russia and white supremacists trying to start a civil war.
You people always throwing words out that you dont even know the definition of. So enforcing our laws and protecting Americans is fascist now to the left. They were all about the jab and destroying people during covid. They loved that fascist authoritarianism. Because they were the ones using that power...

 
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Moogy

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Hopefully the citizens stay out of the way and don’t interfere with law enforcement.

I remember the good ole days when hard-core conservatives would speak of fantastical notions of resisting tyranny from within with their trusty penis substitutes.

Now those hard-core cons have been replaced with zero-integrity brainwashed fascist cowards like fatpiggy who suggest "comply with dear leader's directives or be shot on sight by the Gestapo."
 
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fatpiggy

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And he resisted arrest which goes directly against the training received when he passed his carry exam.

Resisted arrest for :13 seconds when 4 adult males were trying to apprehend him.
 
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TigerRagRob

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I remember the good ole days when hard-core conservatives would speak of fantastical notions of resisting tyranny from within with their trusty penis substitutes.

Now those hard-core cons have been replaced with zero-integrity brainwashed fascist cowards like fatpiggy who suggest "comply with dear leader's directives or be shot on sight by the Gestapo."
Prove tyranny is going on. Dont just claim it prove it.. Enforcing the law isnt tyranny, do you even know what it means or just spouting off talking points that you dont really have a clue about...
 
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Roy Cohn's tactics centered on aggressive offense, deflection, and relentless attack, famously summarized as "Attack, attack, attack". Key strategies included never admitting fault, using the legal system for intimidation, manipulating media narratives, and creating chaos to wear down opponents, a playbook he taught Donald Trump. Cohn viewed conflict as war, believing in overwhelming enemies through denial, counter-accusation, and claiming victory regardless of the facts.
 

fatpiggy

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Prove tyranny is going on. Dont just claim it prove it.. Enforcing the law isnt tyranny, do you even know what it means or just spouting off talking points that you dont really have a clue about...
I’ve yet to hear one lefty explain why they think ICE doesn’t have authority to remove illegals.
 
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baltimorened

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What’s fun is there is allegedly photo evidence that the agent misfired a flash bang projectile that blew off his own finger.
only one finger? Not disagreeing with your post or what you saw, but just seems unlikely that a flash bang would affect only one finger....heck, fourth of July fireworks do more damage than that. Not saying it didn't happen, but I would have thought there would be more damage,
 
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TigerRagRob

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only one finger? Not disagreeing with your post or what you saw, but just seems unlikely that a flash bang would affect only one finger....heck, fourth of July fireworks do more damage than that. Not saying it didn't happen, but I would have thought there would be more damage,
not sure how he would do it unless he had his finger in the barrel. It got bit off according to ICE unless there is proof and not just claims.
 

UrHuckleberry

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only one finger? Not disagreeing with your post or what you saw, but just seems unlikely that a flash bang would affect only one finger....heck, fourth of July fireworks do more damage than that. Not saying it didn't happen, but I would have thought there would be more damage,
If it’s a projectile of some sort, seems one finger misplaced could get caught up in something that rips or has the explosive focused on the misplaced finger. Either more likely than the crocodile human.
 

yoshi121374

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I don’t understand what they are protesting.

The people are here illegally. The feds have the right to deport them.

They should be voting, not protesting!

Cool, now explain the murder that this federal agent perpetrated.

You want to argue the issue you feel you have a moral ground to argue. Address this incident and documented murder of a US citizen.
 

TigerRagRob

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ICE doesn’t identify themselves and they are showing up in masks, unmarked vehicles, and armed to the teeth. In the heat of the moment you can’t tell if you’re being g approached by law enforcement or the cartel. Anyone “interfering” or “resisting” ICE with the way they are operating is deemed to be acting in self defense or as a Good Samaritan. If a bunch of unarmed men show up to your door and refuse to show ID, state why they are there, or provide any legitimate documentation as to why they are on your doorstep, how would you react?
also its not self defense if they are the ones aggressively approaching ICE. You need to learn how ICE legally operates. Its not the same as local police. Immigration isnt law enforcement its immigration enforcement and they dont operate the same. ICE doest go to criminal court to see judges for immigration matters. They see immigration judges and get deportation orders not arrest warrants. Once a judge issues the deportation order its over and done. ICE goes remove them. This isnt criminal court...
 

TigerRagRob

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I don’t understand what they are protesting.

The people are here illegally. The feds have the right to deport them.

They should be voting, not protesting!
Because this is how they won 2020. Bring in millions of illegals then issue them a driver license then they get to go vote illegally. These people also get counted into the census and it adds seats to the house that become democrat. They use fraud like the daycares and USAID to pay these people off then those people give a kickback to the politicians and get rich doing it. This is why they fight it so hard. They dont care how many Americans get killed, how much it drives cost of housing up, makes available housing shrink, drives blue collar wages down, drives healthcare cost up. None of that matters to them. Just their power...