ICE murders another unarmed person

dpic73

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Screenshot isnt good enough. Go watch the many videos thats been posted. You have but you dont operate ever in good faith. You lie then double and triple down on those lies despite all the proof against you. I wont mention names but I have some really good good faith chats with people on the left here in private. We dont agree on many things but its civil and respectful. Something thats just not in your dna. Sometimes I show them something they didnt know and they do the same for me. I think they are good people even tho we dont agree on many things. I dont find you to be a good person. My image of you is a 5ft 2 guy with a bowl cut and a moostache(Some will get that reference) with anger issues and small Vienna energy...
LOL, typical TRR, when you can't win an argument, attack the poster. Then what evidence do you have that he was being arrested? You have none but you're so beholden to Mango Mussolini that you'll do and say anything to provide cover, even though we have extensive video evidence that you're just pulling nonsense out of you ***. FTR, I'm 6' 200 lbs dillweed.
 
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tboonpickens

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Bovino attack dog making an *** out of himself on CNN.

He basically just justified murder under the concept of Minority Report. We have the right to kill someone based on what we think they are going to do (under very limited to non-existent evidence) even though that reality never manifests.
She cooked the **** out of this midget SS goon.

 

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Exactly, I will also add that there is no evidence he was being arrested - they were just pushing him and the female out of the way and pepper-spraying them. How can you be resisiting arrest when you aren't being arrested? Their arguments are hollow.
There is no logic here. There is nothing to try and understand because it is illogical regurgitation of the overlords’ statements. It’s a lot like trying to understand crazy: if you can’t do it then it’s probably because you’re not crazy. Said another way, if you cannot understand the MAGA perspective on these instances then at least enjoy the solace that your moral compass is still intact.
 

TigerRagRob

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Even if it was true there was an accidental discharge, that should not, among even minimally competent individuals, have caused a group of officers to unload many shots into the body of an unarmed man kneeling before them with his hands on the ground. In Normalville (which, sadly, doesn't exist any longer) they all see the guy's hands ... and a non-special-needs individual tells other officers he has disarmed the man ... so everyone knows the shot couldn't come from the murder victim. Again, this assumes this latest narrative is true, which is far from certain.
wrong and spoken like a guy thats never been in a firefight as a civilian, LEO, or Soldier.... Its a bad situation that sucks and I can understand why the response. It could have all been avoided if he didnt bring a loaded weapon with no safety on and resist agents. Could have been avoided if local Gov officials didnt encourage things like this and cooperated with the FEDS. Lots of blame to go around...
 

tboonpickens

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yea, that's not what the FEDs are reporting. And, Homan and bovinio are still saying that Minneapolis is not turning over migrant criminals. So seems we have a discrepancy of "facts"
well gee whiz....i wonder whom i can trust here....the cabal of pathological liars who make up the Trump administration including Homan who took a $50K bribe on tape or literally any other sentient being on planet Earth?

that's a real tough one, ned. just not sure whom to trust here 🤦‍♂️
 

TigerRagRob

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Then I would stop repeating things as if they are true. They have not released a single undocumented criminal. And DHS is taking credit for arresting those that have been given to them by the DOC.
He said she said. Would like proof. So DOC is disobeying Walz? No protest at DOC?..
 

dpic73

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wrong and spoken like a guy thats never been in a firefight as a civilian, LEO, or Soldier.... Its a bad situation that sucks and I can understand why the response. It could have all been avoided if he didnt bring a loaded weapon with no safety on and resist agents. Could have been avoided if local Gov officials didnt encourage things like this and cooperated with the FEDS. Lots of blame to go around...
"firefight" LOL
 

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Bovino attack dog making an *** out of himself on CNN.

He basically just justified murder under the concept of Minority Report. We have the right to kill someone based on what we think they are going to do (under very limited to non-existent evidence) even though that reality never manifests.
IMO, just like in the Good instance, folks not part of the four or five agents involved have no first hand knowledge of what actually happened. That includes, Trump, Walz, Vance, Frey, bovinio, Homan, Noem...or whomever. I'd wager that even the 4 or 5 agents won't have exactly the same story These leaders should keep their mouths shut and request independent investigations.
 

tboonpickens

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These leaders should keep their mouths shut and request independent investigations.
jesus christ ned Minnesota has been demanding separate state and local investigations of both the Good murder and this murder. the federal government is trying to block both attempts in obvious attempts to cover their asses. wake up dude. you embarrass yourself.
 

tboonpickens

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MTG, in her own batshit way, weighs in and defends our constitutional rights and calls ******** on the DHS narrative shared by morons like fatpiggy that this man was doing anything illegal before he was murdered in cold blood.

 

UrHuckleberry

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He said she said. Would like proof. So DOC is disobeying Walz? No protest at DOC?..
It is incumbent on the people making the claim to prove something. Can’t prove a negative. They claimed thousands of criminals are being released. Not one convicted undocumented criminal has been released. And if you want to make the claim otherwise like DHS has, please prove it.
 

UrHuckleberry

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IMO, just like in the Good instance, folks not part of the four or five agents involved have no first hand knowledge of what actually happened. That includes, Trump, Walz, Vance, Frey, bovinio, Homan, Noem...or whomever. I'd wager that even the 4 or 5 agents won't have exactly the same story These leaders should keep their mouths shut and request independent investigations.
Been a main issue of mine the entire time. Don’t have to throw anyone under the bus. Just say you support a full investigation and we’ll get to the bottom of it. But they don’t. They shut down investigations and don’t let law enforcement enter the site.
 

TigerRagRob

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It is incumbent on the people making the claim to prove something. Can’t prove a negative. They claimed thousands of criminals are being released. Not one convicted undocumented criminal has been released. And if you want to make the claim otherwise like DHS has, please prove it.
Yes they claim they are working with ICE after declaring they wouldnt. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
 

UrHuckleberry

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Yes they claim they are working with ICE after declaring they wouldnt. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

Walz isn’t against what the DOC is and has done because they are actual criminals and it’s a nonviolent transfer of said criminal. It’s sad to me the lengths you seem to be going to to defend the lies.
 

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Been a main issue of mine the entire time. Don’t have to throw anyone under the bus. Just say you support a full investigation and we’ll get to the bottom of it. But they don’t. They shut down investigations and don’t let law enforcement enter the site.
ok, but here's a thought, and I know you won't like it and will disagree, but for years the government of Minnesota and Minneapolis has refused to work with federal government on immigration. So, the Feds have taken the "little red hen" approach...I'll do it myself.

So now that there is a problem, all of a sudden the state/local governments want in..they want cooperation from the FEDs. Yet are still not cooperating with them on the underlying issue.
 
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dpic73

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still shots prove nothing thats why the video is damning and you avoid it. Hard to spin a false narrative when people can see with their own eyes the video. What does that pic show? Him doing a heil Hitler salute? Him showing a bugger to somebody? Video............
The multiple videos provide extensive evidence that you're wrong.

First of all, he wasn't doing anything that would prompt being arrested. He and the female were pushed to the ground and then pepper sprayed. He was trying to help the female up when a pack of thugs grabbed him and slung him to the ground. Then when he was folded over on his knees, they shot him point blank.

You should be ashamed about bending the truth to your advantage when we can see that you're lying with our own eyes.
 

tboonpickens

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ok, but here's a thought, and I know you won't like it and will disagree, but for years the government of Minnesota and Minneapolis has refused to work with federal government on immigration. So, the Feds have taken the "little red hen" approach...I'll do it myself.

So now that there is a problem, all of a sudden the state/local governments want in..they want cooperation from the FEDs. Yet are still not cooperating with them on the underlying issue.
GFY dude

i can't wait for the midterms so your senile *** can witness what you have wrought.
 

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ok, but here's a thought, and I know you won't like it and will disagree, but for years the government of Minnesota and Minneapolis has refused to work with federal government on immigration. So, the Feds have taken the "little red hen" approach...I'll do it myself.

So now that there is a problem, all of a sudden the state/local governments want in..they want cooperation from the FEDs. Yet are still not cooperating with them on the underlying issue.

So do you support a full investigation or not? You're all over the place.
 

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So do you support a full investigation or not? You're all over the place.
He's short-circuiting because even he finds himself realizing the nazis are doing bad things, but he still wants to be a nazi ... so his usual shtick of pretending there are two sides, in order to excuse away his side is resulting in him bouncing back and forth uncontrollably.
 
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The multiple videos provide extensive evidence that you're wrong.

First of all, he wasn't doing anything that would prompt being arrested. He and the female were pushed to the ground and then pepper sprayed. He was trying to help the female up when a pack of thugs grabbed him and slung him to the ground. Then when he was folded over on his knees, they shot him point blank.

You should be ashamed about bending the truth to your advantage when we can see that you're lying with our own eyes.
If they say you are detained or arrested you dont get to say no and resist. Thats why you go to court. Why did the guy put her in a rear naked choke hold and the agents pulled him off? My bet is he didnt know who he grabbed and thought it was an agent...
 
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wrong and spoken like a guy thats never been in a firefight as a civilian, LEO, or Soldier.... Its a bad situation that sucks and I can understand why the response. It could have all been avoided if he didnt bring a loaded weapon with no safety on and resist agents. Could have been avoided if local Gov officials didnt encourage things like this and cooperated with the FEDS. Lots of blame to go around...
What about blaming the 6 officers who shot him in the back of the head while he wasn’t a threat? Serious question, how far are you willing to go throw away the rule of law and democracy to protect pedophiles?
 

TigerRagRob

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GFY dude

i can't wait for the midterms so your senile *** can witness what you have wrought.
Brain of a spoiled child having a tantrum. He's trying to have a respectful good faith chat with you and he points out something that doesnt sit well with your narrative you want to spin and you attack him. Just shows that you are in a cult. Nobody can have a different point of view...
 
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TigerRagRob

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So do you support a full investigation or not? You're all over the place.
The info is all over the place. Opinions should evolve as more facts get put out. People should hold judgment for at min 72 hours and every shooting should be/is investigated...
 

TigerRagRob

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He's short-circuiting because even he finds himself realizing the nazis are doing bad things, but he still wants to be a nazi ... so his usual shtick of pretending there are two sides, in order to excuse away his side is resulting in him bouncing back and forth uncontrollably.
Says the tard with a Hitler in drag poster above his bed lol. ok Adolf fanboy
 

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ok, but here's a thought, and I know you won't like it and will disagree, but for years the government of Minnesota and Minneapolis has refused to work with federal government on immigration.

Which is their Constitutionally-protected right.

So, the Feds have taken the "little red hen" approach...I'll do it myself.

As the Constitution dictates.

So now that there is a problem, all of a sudden the state/local governments want in..they want cooperation from the FEDs. Yet are still not cooperating with them on the underlying issue.

This illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding the Constitution, generally, and how it speaks to the current issues. The feds have exclusive jurisdiction over implementation of immigration law, and its enforcement. States CAN help with enforcement, if they want, but they aren't required to do so (thanks to the Constitution), and there should be no expectation that they will, even if some states have ... or even if all states have, in the past.

So, yes, the Federal government MUST "do it themselves" unless they get help, which they aren't entitled to. It's called "doing your job."

Regardless of whether State governments (or other local authorities) help the Feds do their job for them, or if they don't, states and local authorities still have rights and protections (as do their residents). Just because the Feds are "doing it themselves" doesn't mean they can do anything they want, and no one has a right to complain. So the "cooperation" States and local authorities, and the states' residents want, is to not violate the Constitution, and other valid laws and regulations adopted thereunder, while the Feds do the job they're required to do. And States and local authorities can insist on the Feds not violating these rights, and still refuse to cooperate with the Feds in doing the Feds' job for them.



If you're still not able to comprehend this, let me give you an analogy. You're the head of bathroom maintenance. The corporate charter states the head of bathroom maintenance is solely in charge of toilet cleaning. But there are others you hire for other tasks ... sink cleaners, urinal cleaners, etc. Now, sometimes the sink and urinal cleaners finish up early and help you clean the toilets, because you're lazy. But they don't NEED to do so. It shouldn't be an expectation they do it for you. Because it's your job.

So, when the urinal and sink cleaners refuse to help you, you throw a fit and say "fine, I'll do it myself," and in your tizzy, you're tossing turds and toilet water all over the place, getting them on the urinals and in the sink. The sink and urinal cleaners have a right to not have you throw turds at them, or at/in what they just cleaned ... they're not "asking for your cooperation" ... and you're wrong to say "oh, now you want my cooperation when you won't cooperate with me on the underlying issue?"

Do you understand?
 

dpic73

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If they say you are detained or arrested you dont get to say no and resist. Thats why you go to court. Why did the guy put her in a rear naked choke hold and the agents pulled him off? My bet is he didnt know who he grabbed and thought it was an agent...
Mother **** you sad man. He wasn't being arrested NOR was he resisting. This is more evidence of the alternative universe you create for yourself to avoid accepting the truth. Maybe you should plaster the board with a bunch of tweets from random paid actors to make yourself feel better.
 
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TigerRagRob

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What about blaming the 6 officers who shot him in the back of the head while he wasn’t a threat? Serious question, how far are you willing to go throw away the rule of law and democracy to protect pedophiles?
Sorry you dont get to carry a gun and a shot comes from your gun then claim to not be a threat. Once that shot rings out you are justified to shoot until you feel the threat is neutralized. If you had ever been in a firefight you would understand this. as far as pedos go those insurgents obstructing ICE do protect pedos and you support that. You also support groomers teaching our kids anal sex in 3rd grade and showing sexual explicit material in class. I wonder if you might be a member of Atlanta NAMBLA. Are you a registered SO in GA?