If a UK player was to take a knee during the National Anthem...

TotesMcGotes

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Thanks for your service but other than that I got nothing for you.
I knew when I posted my replies that i was arguing with a certain group of white males in the south that have a different world view than the rest of the world. Im okay with your opinion
Ahhh yes....when you look uninformed and have no info to prove your point....label everyone a racist. Congrats. You have learned to play the victim very well.
You should regret being duped into believing that America is an oppressive country when there are many countries that are. Look at NK, Iran, China, etc. Yet you think this country that allows anyone to achieve anything they want if they want it bad enough, is somehow oppressive.
A young black kid who was born and lived in real oppressive times is now the leader of that same country. Very oppressive indeed. I am no fan of Obama but I am glad that I live in a country where there are no limitations on what one can do or aspire to be. I am glad that this country has changed from the awful years of slavery and segregation to a country now where there are folks of all races in all sorts of positions of leadership and authority and it is not an issue because of their race.
Ok you just contradicted yourself. So by stating "atleast we are better than NK, China etc" you then agree that a problem exists... that is a start. I dont think north korea should be the standard of a nation we should be shooting for to be better than.
 

morgousky

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Lol. This is a common reply by some whites. How can an anti white guy marry a white woman and have white kids. He is speaking the truth and some whites cannot handle it.

You're not speaking the truth. You're speaking to extreme incidences that are not common at all. But do you know what is common? I'll leave you to research if you can handle it. Attacking low lying fruit is easy. Tackling the real problem in the black culture is hard. That's why you ignore it.
 

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You're not speaking the truth. You're speaking to extreme incidences that are not common at all. But do you know what is common? I'll leave you to research if you can handle it. Attacking low lying fruit is easy. Tackling the real problem in the black culture is hard. That's why you ignore it.
Let me guess... you think blacks put themselves in ghettos decades ago... and arrested themselves at extremely high rates (even tho whites commit crimes at the same rates) and started a drug war against themselves and imported drugs into their communities (tyrone doesn't have a poppy field) you think they segregated themselves and discriminated themselves financially and economically for decades, they probably hung themselves and commiteed hate crimes against themselves too, right?
 

BigBlueFanGA

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I take a different view on this than a lot of you. As a college player, you have no right to wear the uniform or play the game. That is a benefit given to you. You certainly have the right to protest but the school has no responsibility to let you play nor continue to keep you on the team. As for professional athletes, if I owned the team I would penalize them in any way I can, within their contract, if they are acting in a manner that I find disrespectful and they are doing it while representing my team. Personally, I'd bench every player who did it. I don't care if its basketball, football or ping pong. For some reason certain people seem to think the world actually revolves around them, it doesn't and if I were coach or owner, I'd make that known very quickly.
 

hmt5000

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I regret commenting on this thread. Just a bunch of white people whitesplaining the black experience in america.

"I dont experience this, so it must never happen".

Or my favorite

"Go find another country"

Lol

Such a stupid reply.
No. Over 100 Asian people were robbed by black people in San Francisco in 1 month. Were Asians oppressing blacks? The anti social behavior in black communities is why we have a problem.

Rapper in Baltimore was trying to protest gang violence and he got shot in the head. Where is the outrage against gangs? People saw it happen but when the cops asked witnesses... nobody saw anything. Fix that then we can talk about traffic stops.
 

TBCat

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Im not trying to blacksplain anything. Im a white guy from kentucky and have traveled around the world thanks the my military service. And im not blind. I can easily see the historical advantages build into this country to help whites and keep non whites down.
Im not splaining anything. Im certainly not racist. Im just aware that things are different in the world than what fox news or msnbc or cnn tells me they are....
Yeah I love how everyone that doesn't agree with just isn't aware of the world around them. That's very narcissistic of you.
 

TotesMcGotes

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Alt right is a term coined by liberals to slander conservatives. And you are still a racist idiot.
Who am i a racist against exactly? Myself? Im white. Its easy to throw that term around isn't it?

(Maybe if i say he is racist it will then invalidate anything he says...).<--- is that your strategy?
 

WildcatofNati

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One thing about the so-called "alt right"- moreso than any other group, they have made the SJWs an absolute object of ridicule both on the Internet and in real life. Granted, using phrases like "whitesplaining", "mansplaining", "CIS", "check your privilege", "safe spaces" and "micro aggressions" tends to naturally and inevitably make a mockery of oneself, but the alt right jumps all over it and has really turned these wackos into a laughingstock.
 

morgousky

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Let me guess... you think blacks put themselves in ghettos decades ago... and arrested themselves at extremely high rates (even tho whites commit crimes at the same rates) and started a druf war against themselves and imported drugs into thwir communities (tyrone doesn't have a poppy field) you think they segregated themselves and discriminated themselves financially and economically for decades, they probably hung themselves and commiteed hate crimes against themselves too, right?

I think lots of blacks start out disadvantaged (not oppressed) for a number of reasons, mainly due to fatherless homes created by the welfare state that incentivized black mothers to marry the government. LBJ, look him up. It was a way for liberal politicians to garner votes by peddling soft bigotry to the masses.

As far as segregation, if you take a look at the new black movement, especially at universities, it's white liberals and blacks themselves that are now pushing for the return of segregation.

The main issue within the black community isn't oppression. Plenty of African Americans make it just fine and start at poverty. In minority oppressed nations you can't do that. So learn what you're talking about.

The problem is, you're looking for someone to blame when personal responsibility and family would correct 90% of this issue, but you don't care to solve the issue. You're just like the rest that want to complain and keep the wheels of victimhood moving. It makes you feel important.

What's going to happen is we are going to continue down this path, and the only people it's hurting are lower income whites and lower income blacks. What you're doing is great to get white liberals elected, create divisions etc all while the problem, the real problem, goes unchecked. Eventually there will be no one left to blame, and it's going to be a rude awakening for guys like you.

The problem is the AA community is family and culture. Take a look at Asian Americans. The prosper more than whites and are more of a minority than African Americans. Why is that? Becuse of family. Statistically if you look at black crime, drop out rates, fatherless homes, etc you'll see the issue is within the accepted culture. Crime and drop out rates were far lower for blacks during a time when this country was FAR more racist. Why is that?

Whites and other ethnic groups cannot fix these issues. It must come from within. If you find an injustice, then tackle it. But there's not many to find. One I would agree with is the criminal drug enforcement aspect, but I wouldn't go as far as saying crack and heroin dealers are "victimless crimes". They have ravaged the black communities.

If you really cared you'd open your mind to these ideas. We've got 6,000 dead black men over the course of the last decade in liberal ran cities of turmoil, and you want to blame it on people that have nothing to do with it and a ghost called oppression.

Deal with be problem. The probable problem. You want to avoid the data and look to a feeling. The results will never change.
 

hmt5000

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Watch Colin Flaherty YouTube channel. Shows the rise of black on white and black on black crime and how people in the media just gloss over it.

I don't know how you plan to fix a problem if no one will admit that a lot of our cities are dangerous. Several countries have US cities on travel advisories for their citizens because people didn't realize that walking down the street can get you killed in certain neighborhoods.
 
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morgousky

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I take a different view on this than a lot of you. As a college player, you have no right to wear the uniform or play the game. That is a benefit given to you. You certainly have the right to protest but the school has no responsibility to let you play nor continue to keep you on the team. As for professional athletes, if I owned the team I would penalize them in any way I can, within their contract, if they are acting in a manner that I find disrespectful and they are doing it while representing my team. Personally, I'd bench every player who did it. I don't care if its basketball, football or ping pong. For some reason certain people seem to think the world actually revolves around them, it doesn't and if I were coach or owner, I'd make that known very quickly.

The problem is most people do not understand the difference between a right and a privilege.
 
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Who am i a racist against exactly? Myself? Im white. Its easy to throw that term around isn't it?

(Maybe if i say he is racist it will then invalidate anything he says...).<--- is that your strategy?
Most of you posts contain anti white racism. You have zero facts to back up any of your claims. When anyone has a different opinion from yours you call them racist. Your lack of self awareness is almost as appalling as your stupidity.
 

morgousky

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Who am i a racist against exactly? Myself? Im white. Its easy to throw that term around isn't it?

(Maybe if i say he is racist it will then invalidate anything he says...).<--- is that your strategy?

No actually that's the exact strategy of the people you support.

just so happens to apply to you. And yes, minorities can be racist and whites can be racist against whites.

You sound like a clueless social justice warrior.
 

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I don't care if he sits during the national anthem. Doesn't mean he's not an idiot or that he understands the "issue" he's protesting.
 

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I knew when I posted my replies that i was arguing with a certain group of white males in the south that have a different world view than the rest of the world. Im okay with your opinion

Ok you just contradicted yourself. So by stating "atleast we are better than NK, China etc" you then agree that a problem exists... that is a start. I dont think north korea should be the standard of a nation we should be shooting for to be better than.


[roll]Reading through this thread...You are such a dumb ***.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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Anytime anything happens I ask myself a few questions:
Does this directly affect my life?
Do this harm me?
Does this harm anyone else?

If the answers are no, I live my life just the same as it has not changed it and I don't care. I think people would find much more happiness if they would stop getting torn to pieces about things that don't affect them and caring about what each individual does.

To be able to do whatever you want when it doesnt cause a yes answer above is living in liberty and freedom. I don't care what anyone does, therefore I just ignore it.
 
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Im active duty. 12 years and counting. Im not bothered by it. If anyone tries to make this about military they are making an attempt at distracting ppl from the issue at hand. Which i agree is a problem. The institutional and systematic oppression of non whites in america.

People should be able to think for themselves and i applaud them for doing so and not giving into this "false patriotism" narrative that people should buy into things because they are told to
Bull. Whites have less rights than anybody now. Minorities don't want equal rights, they want "revenge" and want whites to suffer twice as much as they have. I'm so sick of hearing the crying about race everyday. The lazy use their race as their excuse for having a bad life.
 

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I knew when I posted my replies that i was arguing with a certain group of white males in the south that have a different world view than the rest of the world. Im okay with your opinion

Ok you just contradicted yourself. So by stating "atleast we are better than NK, China etc" you then agree that a problem exists... that is a start. I dont think north korea should be the standard of a nation we should be shooting for to be better than.
The fact that you think that is what I said shows how clueless you are.
 
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JumperJack

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I'm thinking of kneeling during MOKH to protest this GD dumpster fire. Please don't hate me.
 

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I knew when I posted my replies that i was arguing with a certain group of white males in the south that have a different world view than the rest of the world. Im okay with your opinion

Ok you just contradicted yourself. So by stating "atleast we are better than NK, China etc" you then agree that a problem exists... that is a start. I dont think north korea should be the standard of a nation we should be shooting for to be better than.

LOL..........Totes - the only true enlightened one of us. A mind is a terrible thing to waste there totie.
 

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what would your reaction be? Seems like this movement is spreading and there's rumors the entire Seattle Seahawks team may take a knee during the anthem.

It's anyone's right to protest but imo it's very disrespectful and I could no longer support that particular player.

I'm looking forward to the day when a UK QB can take a knee to end a game.
 
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UKat51

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If you want to protest something. Start with the cost of childcare. Lol. Im paying 300 a week for two kids.

The cost of childcare is expensive, unfortunately. It is however not a racial question of inequality or racial oppression. Having children and having to work affects all of us. You might check with your church to see if it can assist. You might vote for Trump. He just revealed a childcare plan that he said he would try to implement if elected.
 

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That's their right just as much as it is your right to disagree. I think k we need to quit making such a big deal of it. Ignore it and it goes away.
No, standing would make it go away. they choose to disrespect their country and put themselves in the spotlight. They go out of their way, not to support a worthy cause, but to provoke, not protest. tThey are not protesting FOR anything. They don't have a basic understanding of what they claim they're protesting AGAINST. I'm going to call them out for their disrespect, their ignorance, and their ingratitude. I have no time for espn and other media who futility pretend they are legitimate protesters.
 
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Oh yeah lets bench our players bc they exercise a constitutional right and won't conform to public opinion. That'll show em.

Edit: Counter argument, If UKs basketball starting 5 sat down during the national anthem would you sit them on the bench the whole game? I'd assume probably not, especially in a big game.


If you have observed, our ball players do not cover their hearts with their right hand during the national anthem. The coached do, but the players do not. I chalk it up to lack of knowledge of flag ettiquite.

Thought about sending Cal an email on the subject. Might also add that many fans in Rupp also fail to properly respect our flag. Too many people also fail to remove caps and other head gear.
 

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I regret commenting on this thread. Just a bunch of white people whitesplaining the black experience in america.

"I dont experience this, so it must never happen".

Or my favorite

"Go find another country"

Lol

Such a stupid reply.
Bigoted post.
 

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They actually do have a right to do it at a public university. The state can't restrict their speech unless it's crazy.

A player has no right to do it in the NFL. NONE! I get tired hearing that he has a right to kneel. A NFL team can tell their player to quit or be fired.

The only people who can't tell him no is the government.
 
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Be pretty funny if every black player did it. Personally i would find it hilarious. How then could we carry on our gladiator in the coliseum type cheering while mostly black teams try to rip each others heads off..

If all black players did it then white america would be forced to listen for once.

Yup. Young men getting a free education that will serve them the rest of their lives simply because they're good at playing a game have every reason to protest how unfairly they're being treated by America.
 
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