if Andy Kennedy was our coach - would you fire him?**

dawgstudent

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Based on on-court results and we had Ole Miss's basketball program.

To me, the only stat that matters is 7 out 8 seasons - he didn't make the tourney and the one season he did - he needed the SEC Tournament to do it. I don't care about facilities. Your job is to win.
 

57stratdawg

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Dec 1, 2004
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Kennedy seems to deliver when his seat gets hot. I'd give him next year, and say 'Andy, we need big things in 2015'.
 

coach66

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Mar 5, 2009
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Andy appears to be an average coach. He isn't terrible and he isn't great and

it doesn't look like he ever will be either case. So I guess I would say if they feel they can do better then go ahead, but be careful*. The guy at USM seems to be pretty good.
 

johnson86-1

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Based on on-court results and we had Ole Miss's basketball program.

To me, the only stat that matters is 7 out 8 seasons - he didn't make the tourney and the one season he did - he needed the SEC Tournament to do it. I don't care about facilities. Your job is to win.

Probably yes. The difference between being terrible and being one of the first 10 teams out of the tournament isn't very big to me. Might as well roll the dice on getting lucky with a new coach.

That said, I would say Kennedy has met reasonable expectations. He's not great, he's not bad, which is exactly what they should expect. If they're not going to commit some resources and attention to basketball, they can't expect to do much better than he has. If you like being a bubble team but not making the tourney a lot better than being terrible, then you probably shouldn't fire him unless you have a good replacement lined up. I think Michael White or even the USM guy would qualify though.

You'd think Marshall would also have to count against him. If you're going to have a crack head embarrassment on your team, it should really be a tourney team. I would gladly have Marshall on a tourney team. If he's not going to make us a tourney team, I don't even want him as a fan, much less as an actual player.
 

DAWG61

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I'd fire him because of Marshall Henderson's shot chart. MH could be a good player if AK would teach him how to pump fake and learn some other ways to score besides jacking up awful shot one after another.
 

57stratdawg

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If you're their AD, wouldn't you sort of look at MSU's basketball program and think 'eh, I dont know.."? Who are you going to go get to replace him?
 

myusernamesucks

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He got drunk, punched a cab driver, and used a racial slur. How he was not fired after that is beyond me. Actually, if he was coach at a school that was worth a ****, he probably would have been.
 

DerHntr

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Well OM is our true rival and they should consider that we are about as bad as we have ever been. It would be easier for them to recruit in-state against us if they kept him.

If LSU is their rival, then fire him.
 

kired

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Similar situation to Stansbury (although Stans certainly had more success). But AK consistently wins 20 games and has them on the bubble. Does just good enough that it's hard to fire him. I've got a lot of diehard UM basketball fans in my family and none of them really like AK --- but they aren't sure they can find anyone better.

I thought he should've been fired after the "international incident". But as an MSU fan, I love the fact that he's still there. I don't ever expect they will dominate the rivalry with him as coach.
 

Irondawg

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Dec 2, 2007
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The problem with Kennedy is that THIS year he's lost to MSU, SC, and A&M. Even on the road they are so much more talented than these teams it's inexusable to lose to them. Kennedy is a mini-Stans. He doesn't recruit quite as well but coaches about the same.

He'll get enough talent to compete, but isn't a good enough coach to get them over the hump. Objectively I would argue against firing him.

Of course like you said, you look at MSU and realize that it doesn't take much to bottom out and it makes you think twice about getting rid of him.
 

olblue.sixpack

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If you're their AD, wouldn't you sort of look at MSU's basketball program and think 'eh, I dont know.."? Who are you going to go get to replace him?

It would normally be a crap shoot, but Bjork does have a relationship with Ray Harper, who is one of those rare guys who always seems to have his teams playing their best basketball in March - even when he doesn't have the most talented team in the field.

The question with Harper is, would he leave WKU for UM? The general school of thought is, money talks, but Harper's pretty unique. He's turned down better paying jobs before.

At any rate, if they are looking for someone who can elevate the program, he's about as low risk as they could hope for.
 

jb1020

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He got drunk, punched a cab driver, and used a racial slur. How he was not fired after that is beyond me. Actually, if he was coach at a school that was worth a ****, he probably would have been.

I'm still baffled at how he survived that.

That being said, I think missing the tourney 7 out of 8 years is not worth hanging on to a guy. Especially when the league is so far down.
 
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Based on on-court results and we had Ole Miss's basketball program.

To me, the only stat that matters is 7 out 8 seasons - he didn't make the tourney and the one season he did - he needed the SEC Tournament to do it. I don't care about facilities. Your job is to win.

They won't fire him for another year because of the one tourney, but they better hope Michael White is still available whenever they do pull the plug.
 

DawgatAuburn

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That referendum was last year when he got a nice raise. Rebooting the contract had to buy him at least two years.
 

chefdawg

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it doesn't look like he ever will be either case. So I guess I would say if they feel they can do better then go ahead, but be careful*. The guy at USM seems to be pretty good.

I'm still not sold on the USM coach - their schedule includes one ranked team (Louisville- who murdered them) and the rest of those teams are terrible.
They love this guy in the Burg but they are in C-USA and not that impressive when you watch them play. He might be a good coach, and his team seems
to over-achieve, but its tough to take them seriously with a SOS over 150 and zero quality wins. That said, its even more frustrating that they are in better shape than we are.