If only Iowa State had been in the wimpy Big 10

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Too bad Iowa State, which lost ALL EIGHTEEN games against Big 12 teams, wasn’t in the Big 10 conference.

It could have beaten FIVE teams in the Big 10 which had losing overall records – Indiana, Penn State, Northwestern, Minnesota and Nebraska. Iowa State had the misfortune of being in the toughest conference in America this season.

Iowa State lost to West Virginia by 4 and 5 and the Mountaineers only lost to Gonzaga by 5.

Iowa State lost to Texas, which won the Big 12 tournament, by 6.

Iowa State lost to Oklahoma by 6 and 7.

Iowa State lost to TCU by 6.

Iowa State lost to Baylor by 5. The same Baylor that beat Gonzaga by 16 and never trailed.

Iowa State lost to TCU by 4.

Iowa State lost to Kansas State by 5.

Iowa State lost NINE Big 12 games by single digits. It’s reasonable to think that the Cyclones could have done MUCH better in the Big 10, where the 2nd and 3rd place teams #2 Illinois and #8 Iowa had a worst record in non-conference games than in conference games.

EVERY team in the Big 12 conference had a better non-conference record than its conference record. The deepest conference in America this season!

In the Big 10, the 2nd and 3rd place teams -- #2 nationally Illinois and #8 nationally Iowa -- had a worst non-conference record than its conference record!

Big 12 over Big 10, at the top and in depth far down the line!




BIG 12 STANDINGS

1st Baylor 13-1 15-1 non-conference

2nd Kansas 12-6 9-3 non-conference

3rd (tie) Texas 11-6 8-2 non-conference

And won Big 12 tournament!

3rd (tie) West Virginia 11-6 8-4 non-conference

5th Oklahoma State 11-7 10-2 non-conference

Beat Baylor in Big 12 tournament semifinals

6th (tie) Texas Tech 9-8 9-3 non-conference

6th (tie) Oklahoma 9-8 7-3 non-conference

8th TCU 5-11 7-3 non-conference

9th Kansas State 4-14 5-6 non-conference

10th Iowa State 0-18 2-4 non-conference

Lost to Iowa, 3rd place team in the Big 10, by 28 points.

Beat Arizona Pine Bluff and Jackson State, which was 11-0 in the Southwest Conference and beat Pine Bluff twice.

Baylor lost to 2nd place Kansas, 77-69, during the regular season and to 5th place Oklahoma State, 83-74, in the semifinals of the Big 12 tournament.

Texas, tied for 3rd in the Big 12 during the regular season, and Texas Tech, tied for 6th in the regular season, played in the Big 12 title game, won by Texas by ONE POINT!

As for the Big 10, 2nd place Illinois and 3rd place Iowa both had WORST non-conference records than Big 10 records.

Because Big 12 had far better depth than Big 10!

As I posted for a month and got ridiculed and blasted for it. And it wasn’t me saying it; it was the numbers. Don’t argue with the numbers. I don’t, even if I’m surprised where they take me.
 

WVUALLEN

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No guarantee ISU wins a game in any conference except maybe CUSA.

You and your pretend what if scenarios are delusional at best and embarrassing for WVU fans.
 

MichiganHerd

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CFE points out that Iowa State lost to Iowa by 28 points, which happened to be one of their worst beatdowns of the season, and then squares that up by saying the Cyclones would have fared better in the B1G.

Can't make stuff like this up.
 

tOSUaluminWVa

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Too bad Iowa State, which lost ALL EIGHTEEN games against Big 12 teams, wasn’t in the Big 10 conference.

It could have beaten FIVE teams in the Big 10 which had losing overall records – Indiana, Penn State, Northwestern, Minnesota and Nebraska. Iowa State had the misfortune of being in the toughest conference in America this season.

Iowa State lost to West Virginia by 4 and 5 and the Mountaineers only lost to Gonzaga by 5.

Iowa State lost to Texas, which won the Big 12 tournament, by 6.

Iowa State lost to Oklahoma by 6 and 7.

Iowa State lost to TCU by 6.

Iowa State lost to Baylor by 5. The same Baylor that beat Gonzaga by 16 and never trailed.

Iowa State lost to TCU by 4.

Iowa State lost to Kansas State by 5.

Iowa State lost NINE Big 12 games by single digits. It’s reasonable to think that the Cyclones could have done MUCH better in the Big 10, where the 2nd and 3rd place teams #2 Illinois and #8 Iowa had a worst record in non-conference games than in conference games.

EVERY team in the Big 12 conference had a better non-conference record than its conference record. The deepest conference in America this season!

In the Big 10, the 2nd and 3rd place teams -- #2 nationally Illinois and #8 nationally Iowa -- had a worst non-conference record than its conference record!

Big 12 over Big 10, at the top and in depth far down the line!




BIG 12 STANDINGS

1st Baylor 13-1 15-1 non-conference

2nd Kansas 12-6 9-3 non-conference

3rd (tie) Texas 11-6 8-2 non-conference

And won Big 12 tournament!

3rd (tie) West Virginia 11-6 8-4 non-conference

5th Oklahoma State 11-7 10-2 non-conference

Beat Baylor in Big 12 tournament semifinals

6th (tie) Texas Tech 9-8 9-3 non-conference

6th (tie) Oklahoma 9-8 7-3 non-conference

8th TCU 5-11 7-3 non-conference

9th Kansas State 4-14 5-6 non-conference

10th Iowa State 0-18 2-4 non-conference

Lost to Iowa, 3rd place team in the Big 10, by 28 points.

Beat Arizona Pine Bluff and Jackson State, which was 11-0 in the Southwest Conference and beat Pine Bluff twice.

Baylor lost to 2nd place Kansas, 77-69, during the regular season and to 5th place Oklahoma State, 83-74, in the semifinals of the Big 12 tournament.

Texas, tied for 3rd in the Big 12 during the regular season, and Texas Tech, tied for 6th in the regular season, played in the Big 12 title game, won by Texas by ONE POINT!

As for the Big 10, 2nd place Illinois and 3rd place Iowa both had WORST non-conference records than Big 10 records.

Because Big 12 had far better depth than Big 10!

As I posted for a month and got ridiculed and blasted for it. And it wasn’t me saying it; it was the numbers. Don’t argue with the numbers. I don’t, even if I’m surprised where they take me.
Now do Kansas State, which lost to Fort Hayes State, a Division II school.
 

Rootmaster

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Come on folks cut CFE a break. Anybody who sits 18 hours of each day making up personas and posting the same bloviating nonsense on several sites has more than a few issues to deal with.