Some of you smart guys/gals out there, how could the money be worked out to fire Stoops and still, at the same time, have money to go get a real D1 head coach who has won where he has been? ?? I know UK makes a hell of a lot of money of the tv revenue so we have a load there. ????
If we fire Stoops, how do we play for the buyout and the hiring of a new coach?
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As far as I know the $17M doesnt have to be a one time lump sum. Stoops has a few years, Gran has thru 2019...
It is definitely doable.
we could get real creative and not fire him if Oklahoma cans his bro this year. bring big game in to replace Elliot (return the fav Bob gave Mike from AZ). and hope and pray some of him rubs off on the youngster. would be a ton cheaper.
Why?
$117M budget.
Athletics takes less than 1% from the school side whereas Bama takes 6%.
Athletics provides >$3m annually to the academic scholarship fund as well.
Yup, with UK Athletics yearly budget around $120 million there's no way they can afford the buyout because the media said so. Think for yourselves, learn facts, and base your opinion on those facts. Stop adopting others opinions.
This is just like the Art Briles case. Yall say he's a monster but can't actually say what he did because you adopted the media's opinion instead of learning the facts.
Yea I forgot they just sitting there with a fat 120 and not a single thing to do with it . Let's just do the buyout for ***** and giggles .
^ So, you can't argue your point intellectually? We got it Xception. You can always tell who is in the Stoops camp. This fella makes his stance clear.
And is 18mill of that budget earmarked for paying coaches not to coach?
That was my question as well. Do we have to pay it at once or can it be paid out over a couple years. Sounds like your saying we can draw it out.
He made an ignorant point , what's to argue ? You can't throw out 18 million like its nothing when tuition rates are continually raised . It's a university for the purpose of education , not a gladiator arena that you throw cash around irresponsibly . Get a clue
$17 Million is A LOT OF MONEY even for an entity as big as UK Athletics.
It will take Stoops losing this Saturday, to UofL and going 0-8 in the SEC for Mitch to even consider paying that amount to get rid of him.
Even then, the only way we won't see Stoops next season is if the big donors that buy the Suites, Boxes and high dollar seating bail out.
Mitch has created a huge hole for UK Football.
It will take Stoops losing this Saturday, to UofL and going 0-8 in the SEC for Mitch to even consider paying that amount to get rid of him.
Even then, the only way we won't see Stoops next season is if the big donors that buy the Suites, Boxes and high dollar seating bail out.
Mitch has created a huge hole for UK Football.
Don't know but that's the flagship program at UK , nobody has an issue with that because it's for the fans entertainment . Not paying 28 million for a staff not to coach , that's irresponsible .
That is why a questioned in a thread how much each person spends for when at the game. If the average person buys a ticket for an average of $25 and then spends at least $15 on food, then it takes approximately 300,000 fans not showing up to equal the buyout.
Spread that over 6 games and it means basically no attendance for 1 year. If you can spread his payment out of 5 years (30 home games), then we have to ask a simple question: Will letting Stoops go, put 10,000 more behinds in the stands?
It all becomes a math problem. Based on last year's attendance numbers (62,933 63,040 63,380 63,407 60,886 56,195 62,512), I would say it is most costly to fire Stoops than retain him.
Spread that over 6 games and it means basically no attendance for 1 year. If you can spread his payment out of 5 years (30 home games), then we have to ask a simple question: Will letting Stoops go, put 10,000 more behinds in the stands?
It all becomes a math problem. Based on last year's attendance numbers (62,933 63,040 63,380 63,407 60,886 56,195 62,512), I would say it is most costly to fire Stoops than retain him.
I think the issue is that 2 out of 3 outcomes could mean long term mediocre to sad football.
CMS turns it around this year - all is great and many happily eat crow.
CMS totally tanks this season and we are in shambles, makes life difficult for next year and beyond. But, it possibly could lead to a new (hopefully) better staff.
CMS wins 4 games, just enough to ensure he is here, then by talent alone wins 4-5, maybe even 6 next season, in a year most thought we would excel and he is here for an eternity.
Delaying one year is not going to cost the football program anything , it's been mostly a failed endeavor . How is waiting another year to save a costly buyout going to devastate fb ?
$3 million and attorneys fees. It likely was cheaper than battling it in court for years over the definition of a memo of understanding which I assume was also concurrent with a verbal contract.
I know it is impossible but what about residual losses?
If MB and others here are wrong about CMS like they were Joker, and he is eventually released in 2-3 years, how many more years will it take to regain fan confidence and higher attendance?
I keep seeing this 4% of the annual budget figure being thrown around. Not saying you're wrong, but just want clarification on the numbers here:
If our annual athletics budget is $120 million, an $18 million buyout would be 15% of our annual budget, not 4%. Please clarify your numbers for me.
It wouldn't be a lump sum but over time. They all are. They will be losing money from here on out with tickets and concessions as is. That money would help as well if they got someone in who could turn things around. People are going to quit going period and it also hurts local businesses with sales.
OOOOrrrrrrrr we could just accept losing and give no reason for a winning team.
OOOOrrrrrrrr we could just accept losing and give no reason for a winning team.
My guess is to give the next coach the opportunity to start with a solid group of experienced players his first season.
Would be a much better scenario to hire someone and provide the opportunity to actually begin a coaching regime with positive outcomes instead of trying to build out of the rubble.
I do not know. Football fans are a resilient group.
If we bring in a respected coach, the hype will bring the fans back. I think that is the easier part. Not easy, but easier, because we all want to see the team win.
More difficult is hanging on to the better younger players and maintaining recruiting.
I only looked at it from a financial perspective.
Who said it was nothing to UK? It is a significant amount of money but it's 4% of the yearly budget and very doable.
Not to sure about that. We only went under 60,000 in attendance 1 last year and that was the second to last game against Charlotte., and still it was 56,000. The fans are still turning out.
I bet they don't this week in the storm. People still had hope until this year also.
Which makes it more reasonable and a year won't set this program back , the big win has been facilities of which are going nowhere . Give him another year and if it doesn't work then move on with a big price cut .
cut losses now, you'll have no fan base left. didn't joker experience teach you anything - it's easy to piss people off so they leave, very hard to get them back. it's what....$4mil saved for the one year? overstayed on joker and gettng ready to repeat the same mistake
And waste the talent we have next season on a staff that has proven it cannot get the job done?
Allow another season of recruiting to suffer, not to mention the next two?
You know recruiting begins 2-3 years early, so you are willing to set the program back even further?
Assuming of course we continue to be this bad the rest of the season.