If we had a true 16 team playoff

[615dawg]

then we would all be excited to watch a legitimate 16-1 upset matchup.

Yep, under my proposal to save college football, The top 16 teams in the BCS, along with any conference champion ranked 17-20 in the BCS standings, would be in the playoff.

#19 Boise State would travel to #1 Notre Dame (upset potential)
#15 Northern Illinois would travel to #2 Alabama
#14 Clemson would travel to #3 Florida (major upset potential)
#13 Oregon State would travel to #4 Oregon
#12 Florida State would travel to #5 Kansas State
#11 Oklahoma would travel to #6 Stanford
#10 South Carolina would travel to #7 Georgia
#9 Texas A&M would travel to #8 LSU

Not a single game other than NIU-Bama that does not scream WATCH ME! Not a single horrible Big Ten team to watch!

Second round potential match ups - Notre Dame/A&M or Notre Dame/LSU; Alabama/Georgia; Clemson/Oklahoma; Kansas STate/Oregon

Teams left out of the playoff would be mad?
First team out: Nebraska. Should have beaten Wisconsin. Tough ****.
Second team out: Louisville. You lost to Syracuse and Connecticut. Tough ****.
Third team out: Utah State. Make that FG against Wisconsin and you're probably in. Tough ****.
Fourth team out: UCLA. Had several chances to break in. Tough ****.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Or if we did accept conference champions and went to 20...

Round 1:

#20 Arkansas State at #13 Oregon State
#19 Tulsa at #14 Northern Illinois
#18 Wisconsin at #15 Boise State
#17 Utah State at #16 Louisville

Round 2:
Arkansas State - Oregon State winner at #4 Oregon
#12 Florida State at #5 Kansas State
#9 Texas A&M at #8 LSU
Utah State - Louisville winner at #1 Notre Dame
Tulsa - Northern Illinois winner at #3 Florida
#11 Oklahoma at #6 Stanford
#10 South Carolina at #7 Georgia
Wisconsin - Boise State winner at #2 Alabama

 

[Sutterkane]

Both of you guys are crazy.

The 10th best team in the nation that likely did not finish even 3rd in their conference and has 2 losses gets a shot at the national title?

I also like how there's 6 SEC teams in the mix here. That is not even coming close to being fair to other conferences. Teams that are clearly not even in the top quarter of their conference have no business playing for a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

 

[MSDawg34]

Like when the Big East gets 8-10 teams in the Dance every year...

 

[seshomoru]

My wildly unpopular yearly playoff & "BCS" bowl game picture..

Yes, I allow all conference champs into a 16 team playoff, then I take the next 5 highest rated teams as determined by the BCS. I seed them based on BCS ranking. First two rounds are home games at the higher seed. The "Final Four" and Championship games rotate between New Orleans, Dallas, and Pasadena. I chose those three because I know propose only three "major" bowl games. The Orange and Fiesta are irrelevant now. The major bowl games will be the Cotton, Sugar, and Rose. My scenario works out as follows...

1/16 Tulsa @ ND
8/9 FSU @ LSU
5/12 Boise @ Kansas St.
4/13 L'ville @ Oregon

3/14 Utah St. @ Florida
6/11 Nebraska @ Stanford
7/10 N. Illinois @ Georgia
2/15 Arkansas St. @ Bama

Sugar: South Carolina vs Clemson
Rose: Oregon St. vs Michigan
Cotton: Texas A&M vs Oklahoma

Now... if Ohio State had been eligible, it would have shaken out this way (assuming they would have been #2 in the BCS)

1/16 Tulsa @ ND
8/9 LSU @ Georgia
5/12 Boise @ Oregon
4/13 L'ville @ Florida

3/14 Utah St. @ Bama
6/11 N. Illinois @ Kansas St.
7/10 FSU @ Stanford
2/15 Arkansas St. @ Ohio St.

Sugar: South Carolina vs Clemson
Rose: Oregon St. vs Nebraska
Cotton: Texas A&M vs Oklahoma

And just assume Nebraska won the Big 10 in the first scenario....oops

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I'm very comfortable with the seedings...

This is all according to the BCS standings & how things just played out this season. Also South Carolina defeated Clemson at Clemson this year. The Tigers are the first team out in the BCS at #14-- deservedly so. The ACC was weak this year.

As far as the Big Ten is concerned, Ohio State is ineligible and Nebraska was the second team out (also deservedly) with their blowout loss to Wisconsin.

Edit to add: If this happened in 2013, Clemson would likely have a playoff spot at the expense of Utah State since the WAC would be no more meaning that Tulsa would be at Clemson, Wisconsin would be at Northern Illinois, and Louisville would be at Boise State (presuming that Boise State would defeat Utah State and win the conference).

 

[DerHntr]

you are just wildly unpopular in general these days**

nm

 

[InaccuratePredictionsDawg]

I agree with your format...

..except I would have the first round games you listed as bowl games. They could to drop the "BCS bowl" foolishess and pick 8 current bowls & re-package them as "March to the Championship" bowls, or whatever. Then the winners of the MTTC bowls would take the next round of games to their respective campuses. The winners going forward get to keep playing on campus. Then once the elimination process has worked itself out, the final championship game would be played at a pre-determined neutral site.

 

[sleepy dawg]

Hell, why stop here? Why not make it a 120 team playoff? What's really the point of a playoff anyway? I don't think it has anything to do with determining the actual best team anymore. College football has more accurately crowned the best team as the champion than any other sport I watch.

..And, no matter how many teams are in it, others will ***** who didn't make it. The same "first 4 out" arguments made above could be made for Oregon, Florida, K-State, and Georgia this year. Any more than 4 teams in a playoff is just excessive, and no longer serves the sole purpose of crowning the best team as champion. It's simply for entertainment purposes, and is unfair to the few teams who truly dominated the regular season.

 

[patdog]

16 is way too many. 8 would be plenty. And 4 will be pretty good. A huge improvement over the current system and very few deserving teams will ever be left out. SI had a mock committee (that included Scott Stricklin) go through the process and they chose Notre Dame, Bama, Florida and Oregon for the hypothetical 4-team playoff this year. Hard to argue that anyone else really deserved to be there.

Everyone who keeps comparing this to the NCAA basketball tournement just needs to STFU. The regular season is almost completely meaningless in basketball. In football, it means the world. Going to a 4-team or 8-team playoff won't change that, it will just make it better. Go to 16 and you really start to dilute the field too much.

 

[seshomoru]

My numbers are better nationwide

 

[SwampDawg]

Hey 615, I'm replying to the thread, not to you specifically. While we are designing the new, improved playoff, lets try to leave some classroom time for the huge majority of the players that will not make it to the pros. They need to learn how to do something that will make them a decent living, and no they can't all be high school coaches. As it is right now, their entire first semester is organized around football. Sure, some can still excel in the classroom, or at least do reasonably well, but lets try to arrange things so all of them at least do ok.

 

[Dawg@Vandy]

Here's my scenario...

First, you take BCS conference champions and the two highest ranked at large teams and rank them 1-8. The top 4 teams will be #1 seeds with the stipulation that to be a #1 seed you have to either win your conference or be in the top 4 of the BCS as an Independent.
1. Notre Dame
2. Alabama
3. Kansas St.
4. Stanford
5. Florida
6. Florida St.
7. Louisville
8. Wisconsin

Then take the next 8 highest ranked BCS teams in order with the stipulation that a conference can only have a max of 4 teams represented.
9. Oregon
10. Georgia
11. LSU
12. Oklahoma
13. Oregon St.
14. Clemson
15. Northern IL
16. Nebraska

Then, based on this ranking seed four divisions, limiting each division to a max of 2 teams from each conference.
East (Orange) South (Sugar) North (Fiesta) West (Rose)
1. Notre Dame 1. Alabama 1. Kansas St. 1. Stanford
2. Wisconsin 2. Louisville 2. Florida St. 2. Florida
3. Oklahoma 3. LSU 3. Georgia 3. Oregon
4. Nebraska 4. Northern IL 4. Oregon St. 4. Clemson

Top 8 host the first round 4's play at 1's and 3's play at 2's. Final 4 games will be played in the traditional BCS bowl location associated with the division.

Championship game would rotate annually among the four bowl sites like now. I would also have the regular season trimmed back down to 11 games. Teams left out can still go to bowl games like now.

 

[tenureplan]

Wouldn't work with the existing bowls. Bowls are all late Dec early Jan...throw in a 16 team playoff and you are looking at another 3 weeks of games. They will not play games through early February so the playoffs have to start in early-mid December.

 

[Godfrey]

Read Death To The BCS. There are some interesting ideas on a 16-bracket in that book.