long-term perspective, pfft, this is the BWIAKB filled with BWIAKCoaches.
Torches are in hand and its only Thursday!
If we lose.
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Torches are in hand and its only Thursday!
The pitchforks are presently being sharpened and will be ready by 09:00 tomorrow, Friday.
Where did my post or the post I responded to say anything about Allar, or player development post recruiting? Do you even read the posts you are responding to? hmmmm
Holy crap, STFU. It's telling that you can't actually talk about anything football related, except repeating, over and over ... and over and over ... your same trolling topic.
I seriously laughed a stomach laugh when the premium board goobers tried to say Franklin was awful because the Lions aren't playing in all white road uniforms during this whiteout. How do people come up with this shiat? What synapses fire off?
On a serious note, all of us on this board know (admit it, even you cynics) that if PSU wanted to go all in on spending, cheating SEC style, and generally becoming a top 5 football factory, we could have done it long ago. But that isn't what the vast majority ever wanted because it would be a hollow victory symbolized by a meaningless trophy. Now, the younger generation may be fine with being just like everyone else salivating over being no. 1 at any costs and they may get that someday. For now, Franklin has been a stand up guy, building the program within the rules. Do I think he should be fired if he loses another big game? Nah. We can argue about coaching but with each loss it's much more likely the lack of horses are the issue imho.
My advice fwiw. Sit back and enjoy the show, win or lose.
And also likely because you (Rick) move the goalposts in the discussion all the ******* time. In this respect, you are a real outlier on this board, just saying.
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And that’s just as annoying as the schtick of talking like some wannabe 19 year old egomaniac with the abbreviations and 3rd person stuff.
That part doesn’t bother me but one’s mileage will vary. One other thing is that you never know whether or not he’s drunk posting, that definitely doesn’t do a whole lot for our comprehension.
Rick, this might seem harsh but you asked. Happy to oblige, lol. You made the bed. Maybe before posting try to predict how posters will respond, that’s a life skill everyone should have.
I do really dig the way you (Rick) talk about your family, though. I see a lot of love, good for you, our kids deserve it.
I'm not satisfied with beating SMU and Boise either. There, I said it.
Long live the rick
Long live the rick
There is no guarantee that Franklin keeps his 10-2 streak alive either, it is not a given. Look at the talent that will be lost after this season, 2026 could easily be a 7-5 team.
Agreed...there's risk but when you get to the point you know the current guy isn't good enough to win a title you have to make a move. Not saying we're there yet but he has to start winning big games.Or you can go from a Solich (can do better) to a Pelini (can do better) to a Riley (can do better) to a Frost (can do better) to Rhule (not a great first two seasons and too early to tell about this season and beyond).
Yeah, maybe PSU can get someone else that would get us back to a NC, but I would say odds are similar record as Franklin or worse.
Depends on what is the goal. It's like the Steelers...do you keep Tomlin and stay competitive while knowing you're never going to win or do you want to be elite? I take risks...I get the conservative approach.
Best thing Georgia ever did was fire Richt and they hired a well respected coordinator not even a proven HC.
Best thing Georgia ever did was fire Richt and they hired a well respected coordinator not even a proven HC.
are we on the same side? I just don’t know at all
are we on the same side? I just don’t know at all
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He has his job until that buyout goes under $20 million if not under $10 million so probably 5 more years. Unfortunately he can lose all the big games he wants until it becomes a reasonable financial decision to can him.
Most likely that's true but to keep someone in a role to avoid the buyout doesn't make sense. We've seen other programs move on. We can afford it.
Definitely worked out for Georgia but it's much more common for programs to scuffle along for a while, sometimes many years, till they find their guy. The best example of course being Nebraska. But Alabama and Texas also had a lot of years of mediocrity (by their standards). When Franklin leaves (and I think he will, when he's ready for another challenge) there's a risk that PSU would fall into the middle regions of the B1G for an extended period of time. Franklin is a very big reason why PSU recruits at the level it does. That said, be careful what you wish for, if Franklin were to break through this year and get his championship, NFL teams could be knocking on the door.
I think most people accept Nebraska's issues had a lot to do with joining the Big Ten.
Alabama and Texas did have down years but it kind of worked out--especially Saban/Bama. We'll see Sark/Texas
If we win a championship and he moves on I'll wish him the best--I'm confident we'll be fine. Just like I didn't blame O'Brien for leaving.
I think Okie State ponied up $15 million to get rid of Gundy. I can see us doing that or maybe more like possibly $25 million for example if he turns into a train wreck and starts missing the playoffs every season.
Nebraska's first 4 seasons in the conference were 9-4, 10-4, 9-4, 9-4. Pelini's win % when Nebraska was a member of the Big 12 was .707. As a member of the big ten he was .711. The wheels didn't fall off completely until 2017, 7 years into their membership...
They had at least 3 conference losses every year but 2012 when the basically played no one decent other than Ohio State. Both Penn State and Michigan were subpar that year. 9 wins seasons, especially counting the scrimmage of a bowl game, isn't impressive.
You're discounting the entire time they were in the Big 8 before they added 4 schools? The Big 8/Big XII is interchangable.
They used to recruit very well in Texas--joining the Big Ten hurt that.
The wheels completely fell off because of bad hiring decisions but they were never relevant in the Big Ten.
Whatever Nebraska was in 1995 before the big 8 expanded was gone well before they joined the big ten. They'd only won the conference twice since the expansion and hadn't since 1999. They may have never been relevant in the big ten but they'd already been irrelevant for over a decade in the big 12.
Pelini's big 12 win percentage was .708, which dropped dramatically to, checks notes, .688 in the big ten. The big 12 north wasn't exactly murderers row. 2008 Oklahoma was their only regular season conference opponent during Pelini's tenure that finished ranked in final AP top 10. They played one every season after joining. 2011 Wisconsin, 2012 OSU, 2013 MSU and 2014 MSU.
One thing for sure, should be ready, 3 cupcakes and 2wks to prepare for UO, no excuses.
That's all great but doesn't refute my point. Not sure what argument you think you're making here. Nebraska's recruiting was limited after joining the Big Ten and the results reflect that. It even makes more sense they were subpar 4 loss teams the first couple years until the impact of recruiting became evident.
Yup. Two weeks to prepare. The opponent is traveling 3 time zones and breaking in a new QB in front of a white out crowd. Franklin needs to find a way to win this one.
50/50 on that. He equates his loyalty to spending on PSU tuition. His first instinct it to pontificate on PSU Football without facts, as they get in the way. No understanding the bigger picture, the true landscape of college football, of what the program can achieve with current resources and talent, or who out there could come for the same money and get us to the promised land. It's just a lazy approach. Save your breath, he ain't listening.
