Good points. That’s why I hate when people demand a date that things will reopen. This changes daily.
If you are a Governor when you open things back up ?
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I thought the distilleries were closed? Are you saying the mom and pop liquor stores are big donors?
The charges are based on alleged activity that is dated years before the pardon. The charges might be an indication that this guy was not a good candidate for a pardon in the first place, but let's not misrepresent. He didn't get pardoned, then promptly show his appreciation by committing a new offense. He's not Willie Horton. You liberals remember that one- I never heard the end of it, and not from Bush, but from the liberals bellyaching about some TV ad about it that the Bush campaign ran.
Fine. I agree with this exception. Now, let's open the pubs as well, and directly.
Good lord calm down. I just wondered since he has been in office a short time. You can hate who you want to. I wasn’t trying to mess with you.
Those who sacrifice liberty for security are deserving of neither.
It's time for this nation to greet with the virus with a middle finger. It's time to greet Karen with a middle finger as well, and if she has violated Constitutional rights, it's time to start seeking indictments. The government of Puerto Rico has just criminalized "fake news" about the coronavirus. Of course, this ludicrous law will fail in the courts but that's after the fact. If one person spends one second in custody for this obvious violation of the 1st Amendment (sorry, liberals, "fake news" is not a clear and present danger), indictments need to be forthcoming.
It's time for this nation to greet with the virus with a middle finger. It's time to greet Karen with a middle finger as well, and if she has violated Constitutional rights, it's time to start seeking indictments. The government of Puerto Rico has just criminalized "fake news" about the coronavirus. Of course, this ludicrous law will fail in the courts but that's after the fact. If one person spends one second in custody for this obvious violation of the 1st Amendment (sorry, liberals, "fake news" is not a clear and present danger), indictments need to be forthcoming.
We were notified the state shutdown of Courts continues until June 1, but have had two days of Virtual Family Court that went pretty well on Skype.
Even very rural counties have two days a week where a hundred or more are packed into a courtroom for speeding tics, etc. and family matters. I can see this being delayed as it requires close-proximity contact, so similar to church settings that some companies make benches for both Courts and churches.
Some have questioned a regional approach for Kentucky, . . . but look at a map of the “tri-states;” the overall health of Cincinnati means as much to Kentucky and Indiana as does any city in their respective states, given it’s central strategic location, and population.
Even very rural counties have two days a week where a hundred or more are packed into a courtroom for speeding tics, etc. and family matters. I can see this being delayed as it requires close-proximity contact, so similar to church settings that some companies make benches for both Courts and churches.
Some have questioned a regional approach for Kentucky, . . . but look at a map of the “tri-states;” the overall health of Cincinnati means as much to Kentucky and Indiana as does any city in their respective states, given it’s central strategic location, and population.
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Cincinnati is relatively fine- actually most cases here are in the suburbs and last time I looked there is not one confirmed case in my neighborhood of downtown Cincinnati. Cleveland, not so much, but then again, it's not uncommon to see someone in Cleveland taking a dump on the street. I literally saw that a couple of years ago, and in an upscale area of Cleveland at that; upscale by Cleveland standards and I'm advised that this kind of behavior is common there.
I spent a lot of time in Cleveland in 2008 with a sick child; was impressed with both the necessity and prevalence of security measures in parking garages, etc.
Certainly a different feel from Lexington, though Cincinnati Children’s is a rough patch of town.
I don't hate him. I don't hate anyone. My bad if I came acroos too strrong.
I just don't agree with some of his ways of governing and wanting to govern. I strongly disagree with some of his stances and views.
I never said that he was pardoned and committed a new offense. The federal charge that he's being hit with (the production of child sex material) is directly related to the crimes that Bevin pardoned him for (the rape of a fifteen-year-old boy, which he filmed and distributed).
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...izes-pressing-dayton-jones-pardon/4426842002/
And I'm not one of "you liberals." I'm totally non-partisan, and I know damn well how to sift through all of the crap that the media throws at us Left and Right. I agree that what Dukakis did with the furloughs was a terrible mistake, but I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Bevin's status as a decent human being.
As of this moment on Friday the 17th there are 13 states with less than 2000 known cases. I would think some, maybe all would be the first to venture into phase 1. I think Kentucky is around 2100. For the rest of us, like here in Colorado we haven’t even plateaued though there are indications we are starting. Then we have to have 2 weeks with cases going down. As a WAG I would think it will be the end of May before we’re ready for phase 1.
I thought it interesting that Kentucky chose to coordinate with midwestern states.
To me, it's odd that rural areas and those with very low cases would be forced to do like areas with high cases.
I live in Madison county in Kentucky. As of today, they have 21 cases and zero deaths, thank the Lord. It doesn't seem logical to keep the same restrictions here as there are in other parts of the state and country that are much higher.
Why not let businesses open back up? Maybe have a limit on in house patrons on restaurants/stores in peak hours, say 5-9pm. But to continue to lock everything down all the same seems illogical to me.
But don’t you think the steps taken have resulted in the low number we are seeing?
No, I definitely think they have. Changes in normalcy had to be made. The risk and the unknown was too high.
I also think we should have enough of a baseline in areas to start easing back into life. We are 2-3 months in, people have, for the most adhered to the guidelines and adapted, but this cannot keep going on and on. Has to be a point where work must start back, eating out, going shopping, etc.
School should definitely not go back until the fall. Makes no sense to go back now with only a few weeks left in the school year.
But let's be real, the decision makers have not felt the consequences of their decisions like the public has imo. They haven't missed a check or had to worry about paying bills or being able to get groceries. Easy to say, let's keep waiting when that's the case.
I really wish people would stop with this Ben Franklin quote because it means essentially the opposite of what you are using it to promote.
Franklin originally said this in response to a dispute between the Penn family and the PA government. Basically the Penns were trying to buy off the governor to veto the legislature wanting to tax their lands to help pay for defenses on the frontier during the French and Indian War.
So what you just paraphrased is a quote defending the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security.
Oops.
For most of my working life I was a big earner. Then I was finally laid off and I went through several years of struggling to pay my bills. There aren’t many things more stressful than that, and right now we have 10’s of millions who were employed a month ago going through it. We have to get them back to work. There’s a risk though of new outbreaks, and all we can do is try and minimize that risk, and be better prepared if there is a second wave.
Many of the rural states who have been resistant or slow to institute a stay at home order are seeing surges in cases now though. I can’t find the article now but the surge percentages ranged from a 50% increase to over 200% in South Dakota
So of the 30 people who live in South Dakota, they've gone from 1 case to 2 now?
No, there is a Smithfield plant in SD that alone had 200+ casesSo of the 30 people who live in South Dakota, they've gone from 1 case to 2 now?
I don't trust any statistics that come out of the Dakotas. A lot of mysteries in those lands... if they really even exist.
Everytihng I saw was about hypotheticals and what could happen if a surge were to hit rural areas. Not saying it's not happening or out there but I couldn't find it.
But you were saying it was areas that didn't do social distancing. That's a different issue.
Has nothing to do with a stay at home order - SD outbreak came at a food plant...that would be open whether or not stay at home was in place. Many of the workers were related and lived in the same facility, again, wouldn’t have been saved with a stay at home.
What you may see on National TV or read in newspapers may not be truth The beaches open down here are not a health threat. There are restrictions if you go to the beach and the reality is few Floridians go to public beaches. It is mostly tourist. This is what Jacksonville Beach actually looked like and it is safe. Besides the coronavirus does not thrive in sunshine or humidity. Add that to an ocean breeze and compare it to riding in a New York subway.
KY will never open up again.
Beshear and Stack are quite the combo. Stack thinks we may need to test 9k-13k a day (ky has tested 32k since this has started)
14 day decline clock hasn’t started according to them.
4 new deaths - all tied to long term care facilities. Now over 20% of cases and 33% of deaths are tied to long care homes.
Beshear and Stack are quite the combo. Stack thinks we may need to test 9k-13k a day (ky has tested 32k since this has started)
14 day decline clock hasn’t started according to them.
4 new deaths - all tied to long term care facilities. Now over 20% of cases and 33% of deaths are tied to long care homes.
We have adequate testing capacity - Beshear just hasn’t secured the supplies.
We also don’t really need to test 13k a day - but they don’t really know what they need...even Stack said as much. They have no idea.
The Stack guy is ridiculous. Just now coming up with task forces to work on stuff. What the hell took so long?
Backward *** state.
I predict KY will make the national news in the next few weeks. There will be tons of protests and we’ll be put in a bad light and Andy becomes the victim. Just watch.
Backward *** state.
I predict KY will make the national news in the next few weeks. There will be tons of protests and we’ll be put in a bad light and Andy becomes the victim. Just watch.
The doctors on the WH team said they want testing ramped up and think the sweet spot for percent positives is about 10%...anything more and you’re not testing enough, anything less and you’re testing too much.
KY is about 9% positive rate so far - 2960/32000
There’s no need/demand or reality that we’d get 1350/13500 DAILY.
KY is about 9% positive rate so far - 2960/32000
There’s no need/demand or reality that we’d get 1350/13500 DAILY.
KY and TN are currently tied with 148 deaths, obviously we are higher per capita. We are also showing a 9% positive test rate vs 7% for TN even though they were so slow to shut things down according to our all knowing governor. Have no faith that this clown is competent enough to get things reopened in a timely manner.
It will likely take public pressure to move Beshear on this.
I feel for the residents in long term care facilities - but 14 out of the last 19 deaths being from those facilities is a sign to protect them and start releasing portions of everyone else. I know the positive cases were at least 20-25% from these facilities the last few days as well.
Just hit our highest total positives and we’ve been in the house for 30 days...should be noted that hospitalization and ICU were down last 2 days.
I feel for the residents in long term care facilities - but 14 out of the last 19 deaths being from those facilities is a sign to protect them and start releasing portions of everyone else. I know the positive cases were at least 20-25% from these facilities the last few days as well.
Just hit our highest total positives and we’ve been in the house for 30 days...should be noted that hospitalization and ICU were down last 2 days.
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Gulfstream and Oaklawn have been running nonstop, btw. Somehow they're avoiding tragic results.
What's your plan to secure supplies when you not only have to bid against other states with more capital, but also the federal government?
Factor in a supply chain based in production in China.
There a magical testing swab tree I can plant in my yard?
Has Andy talked to Pence and asked for help? Other Governors have. He sure hasn’t mentioned it. And you can bet your *** if he had and was turned down he would tell the world.
Over his head.