Not excusing the decision, but Poole started 47 games in 2017. So while not a good move, Henderson wasn’t the only one or even the first one to make it (and, he reversed course a lot sooner than his predecessor did). Somehow Poole must be one of those practice all-stars. That’s what I keep telling myself, anyways.
I'm sure this wil catch some flack,
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Not excusing the decision, but Poole started 47 games in 2017. So while not a good move, Henderson wasn’t the only one or even the first one to make it (and, he reversed course a lot sooner than his predecessor did). Somehow Poole must be one of those practice all-stars. That’s what I keep telling myself, anyways.
We also had a coach quite a few years ago that stared Maloney over Will Clark .
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We can nitpick coaching decisions all day long, but the reality is that Hendo is not making any worse choices than anyone else. Look at Mike Martin’s dumb decision, and the bad pitch selection by Vandy last night to MacNamee. They all do stuff that is dumb in hindsight. Cohen did too. It comes down to the result, and Hendo has gotten results. However ugly it may have looked at times, the staff got results. I’m not saying the success will be replicated, but it seems foolish not to see if the success is replicated next year. It’s not like hiring Hendo means he will stay forever. It’s rolling the dice to see if this year was just a fluke.
I just think it would be beyond dumb to get rid of Gautreau, and he will more than likely be gone if Hendo goes. I think people are overthinking this. We have a staff that has worked wonders with these kids, and most of them are coming back next year. Why would you disrupt that chemistry? If it doesn’t work next year, you can get rid of him. I think people are focusing too much on some big name hire and overlooking the obvious answer.
I just think it would be beyond dumb to get rid of Gautreau, and he will more than likely be gone if Hendo goes. I think people are overthinking this. We have a staff that has worked wonders with these kids, and most of them are coming back next year. Why would you disrupt that chemistry? If it doesn’t work next year, you can get rid of him. I think people are focusing too much on some big name hire and overlooking the obvious answer.
There's some folks on this board gonna be pretty upset if Cohen decides that keeping the current staff intact, along with 90% of the roster, is the right thing to do. Who knows, given the chance to work with the team through the summer and fall/winter might set us up for another deep run?
It might actually work out in his favor to keep the current staff, so he can play it off like he never got turned down by anyone else. Like he had to reward this staff. The longer this goes, the more comvinced I am that the current staff stays intact. I don’t think a big time head coach wants to take over a program that the AD used to play for.
You seriously want to favorably compare the CGH's track record as an HC to the IB's? That's next-level stupid there.
This is so wrong, I just can't let it go unanswered.
John Cohen took over two SEC programs in disarray, needing complete rebuilds. UK had never been a good program before JC. In their entire history pre-JC they had gone to 2 regionals, the last one in 1993. They had won a total of 3 NCAA tourney games ALL-TIME! In the 7 years before JC they had exactly one winning season. COMPLETE REBUILD!
For that reason, it is silly to not recognize CJC's first two years are a write-off, and should never be counted when comparing his record as a HC with others who have taken over at established winners.
CJC gets a pass on 2004 & 2005. NOT HIS FAULT. His record at UK after those 2 rebuild years is 122-55-1 (.668)8)8), 49-30-1 (.619) SEC.
CGH took over UK AFTER CJC turned it into a winner. His record at UK is 258-199 (.565), 105-134 (.439) SEC.
Pay close attention to that SEC winning percentage. One gets you in SEC & NCAA tourneys regularly. The other leaves you sitting at home for the post season 75% of the time.
CJC took over an MSU program that, though it had been to several regionals & a CWS in Polk's 2nd term, it was clearly in rapid decline, culminating in Polk's final year SEC record of 9-21. We all know the inside scoop, that the cupboard was bare for JC. Took 2 years to rebuild our program. We all lived through it, so I don't need to sell it here. By his 3rd year, CJC had us in a SR. By his 5th we were back in the CWS and the NC game. In the 6 years that followed the 2-yr rebuild CJC lead us to 5 regionals, 3 SR's and the NC games. His final year , 2016 he had us as a #6 National Seed.
Again, the idea that you can favorably compare CGH's record to CJC is just absurd. Everywhere CJC has been HC he has been successful and elevated the program past where it was when he got there. CGH is just the opposite. UK went South under CGH. He left it worse than he got it.
Point is, you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. You insist he is at least a pretty good coach. You base that on what? Must be the hot streak we have been on, because it's damn sure not his 9-year record as HC at UK. It's not his 1 year as HC at Chapman.
All we really know is he appears to be a really good guy, the guys seem to like him, and he's had success as an assistant coach. But he has not been pretty good as an HC.
John Cohen took over two SEC programs in disarray, needing complete rebuilds. UK had never been a good program before JC. In their entire history pre-JC they had gone to 2 regionals, the last one in 1993. They had won a total of 3 NCAA tourney games ALL-TIME! In the 7 years before JC they had exactly one winning season. COMPLETE REBUILD!
For that reason, it is silly to not recognize CJC's first two years are a write-off, and should never be counted when comparing his record as a HC with others who have taken over at established winners.
CJC gets a pass on 2004 & 2005. NOT HIS FAULT. His record at UK after those 2 rebuild years is 122-55-1 (.668)8)8), 49-30-1 (.619) SEC.
CGH took over UK AFTER CJC turned it into a winner. His record at UK is 258-199 (.565), 105-134 (.439) SEC.
Pay close attention to that SEC winning percentage. One gets you in SEC & NCAA tourneys regularly. The other leaves you sitting at home for the post season 75% of the time.
CJC took over an MSU program that, though it had been to several regionals & a CWS in Polk's 2nd term, it was clearly in rapid decline, culminating in Polk's final year SEC record of 9-21. We all know the inside scoop, that the cupboard was bare for JC. Took 2 years to rebuild our program. We all lived through it, so I don't need to sell it here. By his 3rd year, CJC had us in a SR. By his 5th we were back in the CWS and the NC game. In the 6 years that followed the 2-yr rebuild CJC lead us to 5 regionals, 3 SR's and the NC games. His final year , 2016 he had us as a #6 National Seed.
Again, the idea that you can favorably compare CGH's record to CJC is just absurd. Everywhere CJC has been HC he has been successful and elevated the program past where it was when he got there. CGH is just the opposite. UK went South under CGH. He left it worse than he got it.
Point is, you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. You insist he is at least a pretty good coach. You base that on what? Must be the hot streak we have been on, because it's damn sure not his 9-year record as HC at UK. It's not his 1 year as HC at Chapman.
All we really know is he appears to be a really good guy, the guys seem to like him, and he's had success as an assistant coach. But he has not been pretty good as an HC.
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