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<blockquote data-quote="Chazz Michael Michaels" data-source="post: 131112197" data-attributes="member: 1621303"><p>Buck,</p><p>We've been through this BS before. I've already schooled you on this. </p><p>1. I did <u>not</u> bash Holgorsen while he was here. Only <u>after</u> he CHOSE to leave despite a contract, and was no longer our Coach, did I post anything about his coaching ability. Unlike you, I support our current coaches and give them the benefit of the doubt. </p><p>2. You have stated on here that it's wrong for people to have bashed Holgo while he was here because it is something that recruits can see and it can affect the program negatively. So, regardless of whether your opinion of HCNB is incorrect/correct: your constant bashing of the current coach, by your own admission, is wrong.</p><p>3. You claim that you are somehow justified in bashing HCNB non stop because some people on here bashed Holgo when he was coaching is total and complete hypocrisy, which you refuse to acknowledge.</p><p>4. Your claim that you are somehow just posting facts when you trash HCNB is bullshlt. It's your opinion. Many informed people, including those in the national media, other coaches, analysts (who know better than you) have stated that he's done a good job based on what he's had to work with. Your decision to opine otherwise is just your opinion. </p><p>5. I've not given any pass to HCNB. The difference between you and me is that: 1. I support our current coach on a public forum; 2. I have faith in HCNB that he's right for the program and look at the positives in what he's done instead of cherry-picking negatives like you and trashing him nonstop. </p><p>It's his first season in a very tough league with an extremely young team and was 1 late score vs OSU and/or 3 points vs BU from a bowl with new QB, 5 freshman starting or playing majority of game on D by end of season; was only favored in 2 games yet won 5; won two road games as double digit underdog- something Holgorsen never did here).</p><p>6. Holgorsen:</p><p>Second most losses in school history;</p><p>Lost the last 3 games of the season 2 years in a row;</p><p>2-5 in bowls;</p><p>Worst record in 19 years in his THIRD season (4-8);</p><p>Worst 2 defenses statistically in 19 years (2013 and 2012);</p><p>Lost 3 bowl games in a row.</p><p>0-7 vs Oklahoma.</p><p>Finished in bottom half of B12 the majority of his seasons here.</p><p></p><p>7. See, the difference you can't get through your thick, stubborn, opinionated head is that:</p><p>a. I didn't trash Holgo while he was our coach.</p><p>b. I choose to look at the positives with HCNB and am willing to give him more than his first season before deciding whether he'll be good here.</p><p>c. you trash our current coach, and when called out on it, you claim you're somehow justified because 'other people trashed Holgo while he was coach'.</p><p>d. you choose to cherry pick negatives and ignore the positives to fit your narrative that you don't like HCNB, you never gave HCNB a chance and are sore because your hero Holgo CHOSE to leave here and go to a lesser school.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chazz Michael Michaels, post: 131112197, member: 1621303"] Buck, We've been through this BS before. I've already schooled you on this. 1. I did [U]not[/U] bash Holgorsen while he was here. Only [U]after[/U] he CHOSE to leave despite a contract, and was no longer our Coach, did I post anything about his coaching ability. Unlike you, I support our current coaches and give them the benefit of the doubt. 2. You have stated on here that it's wrong for people to have bashed Holgo while he was here because it is something that recruits can see and it can affect the program negatively. So, regardless of whether your opinion of HCNB is incorrect/correct: your constant bashing of the current coach, by your own admission, is wrong. 3. You claim that you are somehow justified in bashing HCNB non stop because some people on here bashed Holgo when he was coaching is total and complete hypocrisy, which you refuse to acknowledge. 4. Your claim that you are somehow just posting facts when you trash HCNB is bullshlt. It's your opinion. Many informed people, including those in the national media, other coaches, analysts (who know better than you) have stated that he's done a good job based on what he's had to work with. Your decision to opine otherwise is just your opinion. 5. I've not given any pass to HCNB. The difference between you and me is that: 1. I support our current coach on a public forum; 2. I have faith in HCNB that he's right for the program and look at the positives in what he's done instead of cherry-picking negatives like you and trashing him nonstop. It's his first season in a very tough league with an extremely young team and was 1 late score vs OSU and/or 3 points vs BU from a bowl with new QB, 5 freshman starting or playing majority of game on D by end of season; was only favored in 2 games yet won 5; won two road games as double digit underdog- something Holgorsen never did here). 6. Holgorsen: Second most losses in school history; Lost the last 3 games of the season 2 years in a row; 2-5 in bowls; Worst record in 19 years in his THIRD season (4-8); Worst 2 defenses statistically in 19 years (2013 and 2012); Lost 3 bowl games in a row. 0-7 vs Oklahoma. Finished in bottom half of B12 the majority of his seasons here. 7. See, the difference you can't get through your thick, stubborn, opinionated head is that: a. I didn't trash Holgo while he was our coach. b. I choose to look at the positives with HCNB and am willing to give him more than his first season before deciding whether he'll be good here. c. you trash our current coach, and when called out on it, you claim you're somehow justified because 'other people trashed Holgo while he was coach'. d. you choose to cherry pick negatives and ignore the positives to fit your narrative that you don't like HCNB, you never gave HCNB a chance and are sore because your hero Holgo CHOSE to leave here and go to a lesser school. [/QUOTE]
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