That has to be a record. We must really be facing extra disciplined teams. There couldn't be more to it.
(Not saying that is why we lost but geez it's ridiculous)
(Not saying that is why we lost but geez it's ridiculous)
In two games, RU opponents only committed one penalty for two yards
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Again. Not why we lost. But come on.
But a penalty here or there could change momentum and put the opponent on its heels. Just saying.
Some clown {RU Choppin??} claimed the officiating was balanced and fair today. WTF
Any casual fan watching the game today would strongly disagree.
In fact Zero Penalty Yards for Iowa last week and 2 Yards against State Penn today. Yeah nothing is up with the B1G Refs against Rutgers
Any casual fan watching the game today would strongly disagree.
In fact Zero Penalty Yards for Iowa last week and 2 Yards against State Penn today. Yeah nothing is up with the B1G Refs against Rutgers
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It’s ridiculous. I wonder if some kind of record.
It’s unrealistic to believe two teams through 8 quarters have played near perfect games.
Some says refs don’t matter or it all evens out.
Last year cost us an NCAA tourney bid.
It doesn’t even out.
Last year cost us an NCAA tourney bid.
It doesn’t even out.
Hey its not an issue with the refs we only hold in the red zone, however that does seem to be a wee bit odd.
Cant remember which recent game it was (Iowa or OSU) but everybody in the stadium but the referee saw the left tackle jump.
Cant remember which recent game it was (Iowa or OSU) but everybody in the stadium but the referee saw the left tackle jump.
No idea how accurate the two holding calls were on 1st and goal in the two separate drives, but there were a few obvious holds on PSU and that PI call on us in the end zone was a terrible call as their feet just got tangled up. I don't blame refs often, but to have 2 straight games with essentially no penalties on the other team is just nuts.
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The Dremel spot tells you everything you need to know about the refs. He was clearly way beyond the marker and even in replay they said call on field stands. Sure we got a first down on 4th but how that was not a first down is beyond me.
On radio Carlin said schiano was livid they didn’t call a hold on PSU FG after the turnover.
On radio Carlin said schiano was livid they didn’t call a hold on PSU FG after the turnover.
Wow, that is a ridiculous stat. Especially in a sport where holding can be technically called on just about every other play.
I would say nearly impossible
Either the last 2 RU opponents are the most disciplined teams in the history of the sport or the referees have FanDuel accounts.
Google bard draft 1
In the 2022 NCAA Division I FBS football season, there were a total of 1,312 penalties called in 1,308 games played. This means that there was an average of 1 penalty called per game.
If we assume that the probability of a penalty being called in a given game is independent of the probability of a penalty being called in any other game, then we can use the binomial probability formula to calculate the probability that a team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty.
The binomial probability formula is:
P(k) = (n choose k) * p^k * (1-p)^(n-k)
where:
P(k) is the probability of k successes in n trials
n is the number of trials
k is the number of successes
p is the probability of success on a single trial
(1-p) is the probability of failure on a single trial
In this case, we have:
n = 2 (since we are looking at the probability of two consecutive games without a penalty)
k = 0 (since we are looking for the probability of no penalties)
p = 0.5 (since the probability of a penalty being called in a given game is 0.5)
Plugging these values into the binomial probability formula, we get:
P(0) = (2 choose 0) * 0.5^0 * (1-0.5)^2 = 0.25
Therefore, the probability that a division 1 college football team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty is 0.25, or 25%.
In the 2022 NCAA Division I FBS football season, there were a total of 1,312 penalties called in 1,308 games played. This means that there was an average of 1 penalty called per game.
If we assume that the probability of a penalty being called in a given game is independent of the probability of a penalty being called in any other game, then we can use the binomial probability formula to calculate the probability that a team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty.
The binomial probability formula is:
P(k) = (n choose k) * p^k * (1-p)^(n-k)
where:
P(k) is the probability of k successes in n trials
n is the number of trials
k is the number of successes
p is the probability of success on a single trial
(1-p) is the probability of failure on a single trial
In this case, we have:
n = 2 (since we are looking at the probability of two consecutive games without a penalty)
k = 0 (since we are looking for the probability of no penalties)
p = 0.5 (since the probability of a penalty being called in a given game is 0.5)
Plugging these values into the binomial probability formula, we get:
P(0) = (2 choose 0) * 0.5^0 * (1-0.5)^2 = 0.25
Therefore, the probability that a division 1 college football team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty is 0.25, or 25%.
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The average number of penalties called per game in Division 1 college football in 2022 was 12.5 .
If we assume that the number of penalties called per game follows a Poisson distribution, we can use the Poisson probability formula to calculate the probability that no penalties are called in a game. The probability of no penalties being called is e^(-12.5), which is approximately 0.00012.
Therefore, the probability that a Division 1 college football team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty is (0.00012)^2, which is approximately 1.44 x 10^(-10).
The average number of penalties called per game in Division 1 college football in 2022 was 12.5 .
If we assume that the number of penalties called per game follows a Poisson distribution, we can use the Poisson probability formula to calculate the probability that no penalties are called in a game. The probability of no penalties being called is e^(-12.5), which is approximately 0.00012.
Therefore, the probability that a Division 1 college football team plays two games in a row where the opponent is not called for a penalty is (0.00012)^2, which is approximately 1.44 x 10^(-10).
What is the probability of anyone understanding this ? Zero....
My issue with draft 1 is that is has one penalty per game. That’s clearly not correct. The average number of penalties called on each team per game is 6.25
Iowa is the #2 least penalized team in the FBS. Penn State, while not as disciplined as Iowa, is above average.
Rutgers is disciplined too, ranking #4 of 14 B1G teams on fewest penalties conceded.
Perhaps Rutgers needs to do a better job drawing penalties.
Whining about penalties is annoying. Some fans remember the calls they perceive went against their team but forget the favorable calls. Move on.
Rutgers is disciplined too, ranking #4 of 14 B1G teams on fewest penalties conceded.
Perhaps Rutgers needs to do a better job drawing penalties.
Whining about penalties is annoying. Some fans remember the calls they perceive went against their team but forget the favorable calls. Move on.
I think most folks would be surprised where RU falls with the data. That being said, it’s remarkable feat for one team to play two consecutive games where virtually no penalties are called against the opponent. Both of those games played at the unpenalized teams home field. We need a math wiz to calculate the actual probability.
It’s actually an interesting discussion. That quite frankly I’ve never witnessed with my own eyes before and I’ve been playing, coaching or watching football for over 40 yrs. now.
Apparently in your vast experience this is a common occurrence.
I haven't seen TKR posters point out egregious missed calls that should have been penalties on Iowa and Penn State.
Plus, Rutgers was penalized modestly in both games. Iowa: 7-40, Penn State 6-48.
The most common college football penalty, by far, is offensive holding. This is also one of the more subjective penalty decisions. Perhaps the referees observe Rutgers offensive lineman with a more wary eye, but this his impossible to prove.
Moreover, Greg illuminated the penalty situation during yesterday's post-game press conference.
"The Iowa issue was noise related procedure penalties." In other words, Iowa's crowd was a factor in penalties in a way the Rutgers home crowd cannot match.
Yesterday, "there were critical holding calls, two of them of them in the red zone...some of the credit has to be given to Penn State though. The reason people hold is they're getting beaten. So what we teach is at that point you gotta push them, not hold them. But it is easy to say, hard to do." Penn State's better players contributed to Rutgers' holding penalties.
This video demonstrates the impact of crowd noise. The crowd forces a time out on the first play of the game. While a time out and not a penalty, the video shows how a noisy can fluster a play.
I have mixed feelings here. We had two trips inside the 10 and got 2 holding calls against us. I think the second one was a good call and the first one was not. That and the PI against Igbonosun all hurt. They did let one go on the next drive which kept it at 10-3.
Having said all of that when we played teams equal to or worse than us we played pretty close to penalty free and error free Football. Sometimes when you play 4 of the Top 10 Defenses you’re going to make mistakes. The good news is next year we play good teams but not these great Defenses. We will score more points and hopefully our D stays up to the task and even gets better.
Having said all of that when we played teams equal to or worse than us we played pretty close to penalty free and error free Football. Sometimes when you play 4 of the Top 10 Defenses you’re going to make mistakes. The good news is next year we play good teams but not these great Defenses. We will score more points and hopefully our D stays up to the task and even gets better.
So, you think the expression "home cooking" actually refers to cooking ?
Honestly, the officiating against the actual blue bloods IMO- tOSU and Michigan- was way fairer.
Honestly, it was fairer against those two than against MSU.
So ironically we're less penalized than the Cult overall, but mysteriously this one game, they only had one penalty for 2 yards. Souds legit!
Weird to see Iowa and Michigan at the top there. Temple is high too which doesn't surprise me given some of the calls we had with them. Maybe they have someone high up.
Let’s look at the number of penalties at year end in B1G games for RU vs. the competition.
They tell us a lot. At the start of the year we were certainly disciplined.
The Refs certainly went out their way the last 2 games to look the other way on obvious penalties on our opponents. Whether on their own choice or directed to this corrupt BS.
1st holding call on Sutton was b.s., the TV replayed showed nothing. The 2nd holding penalty on Zilinkas was ticky-tak , Gus did get a slight tug on the defender's undershirt but it didn't slow him up at all. I think the DL was still in on the tackle, never called on a B1G blue blood.
In today's NY-Wash NFL game, there were no penalties till 1:32 left in the 2nd quarter. The penalties that did occur were after a TD, on a dead ball and off of the playing field. The penalties were the result of a fracas going on up against the wall. There are games where on the field of play, teams can play flawlessly clean. Some games, there are no penalties till the third quarter.
On the radio, the announcers said no offensive holding penalties occurred, maybe the first time this happened in the NFL.
And the Ohio State game was the most egregious of all.
That pass interference call, one of our rushers was getting tackled in the backfield. They never showed a replay, it was like it never happened.
Really think, with the increase in sports betting, everything should be reviewable.
Not sure how it all impacted the outcome of our games but damn, it killed momentum over and over and over at key points.
I feel badly for this team. They are so close but got no calls and truth be told, made crucial mistakes at crucial times.
I've been laughing at the folks criticizing Schiano for the strategy. It's absolutely the right strategy for this team. But where criticism is warranted is that if you're going to play this strategy, you have to be the team that;'s less penalized, the defense that causes turnovers, the team with the better punter to win field position...none of that happened. A lot of the calls were borderline or missed, but a lot of them were us not being tight.
A prayer for those upset with B1G officials