Indiana fires Kevin Wilson

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I just read this on Twitter. What exactly happened?
They said there will be a presser at 6, not a great record at Indiana, but still it is Indiana. I was always thought he is pretty good coach and finally had a DC worth a darn.
 

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I saw a couple tweets indicating it might not be about on field performance. I guess we will find out more soon.
 

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Sounds like it's about his treatment of players/making them play through injuries.

I'm guessing the coach from Youngstown State won't get an interview.
 
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Geez. Did not see this coming. They have probably been investigating him for a while then and waited until the end of the season to announce.
 

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I really think in this day and age coaches, especially old school coaches, are having a harder and harder time trying to tip toe the line of what is expected of them. There is an huge amount of pressure to win, win big, and win now. You have the pressure to deal with an ever changing PC world filled with egos, prima donnas, campus micro-aggressions, money, boosters and administration to name just a few things.

It is pretty easy for us a fans and onlookers to just say it can't be that hard to do things "the right way". But boy it must! Now it this is a case of concussion issues and rushing players back, I get it, but I don't know if that issue comes up if you don't have the amount of pressure you get as a coach. Listen I am not saying coaches are mistreated or have it that hard, because yeah they get paid out of the ***. Going in they probably realize the pressure, but it shouldn't come as a real surprise to anyone when a case like this comes up.
 
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I really think in this day and age coaches, especially old school coaches, are having a harder and harder time trying to tip toe the line of what is expected of them. There is an huge amount of pressure to win, win big, and win now. You have the pressure to deal with an ever changing PC world filled with egos, prima donnas, campus micro-aggressions, money, boosters and administration to name just a few things.

It is pretty easy for us a fans and onlookers to just say it can't be that hard to do things "the right way". But boy it must! Now it this is a case of concussion issues and rushing players back, I get it, but I don't know if that issue comes up if you don't have the amount of pressure you get as a coach. Listen I am not saying coaches are mistreated or have it that hard, because yeah they get paid out of the ***. Going in they probably realize the pressure, but it shouldn't come as a real surprise to anyone when a case like this comes up.
What does any of that have to do with pressuring a player with a concussion to play (assuming that was one of the issues)? Nothing excuses that. Old school or not. Back in the day maybe some coaches would do that because they were ignorant of how bad concussions are for the brain. Now we know a lot more of the biology involved here and it ain't pretty. A modern coach should know better.
 
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Big mistake if you ask me.... They have become NO easy out with Wilson at the helm...
 
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Big mistake if you ask me.... They have become NO easy out with Wilson at the helm...
Big mistake, I agree. Which is why the firing must have to do with what is being hinted at. Player treatment issues. I bet Kansas wishes they had not needed to fire their most successful coach in ages (Mangino), but their hand was forced. Probably similar here too. Imagine your tort liability as a University if it came out that you knew about your coach pressuring guys to play with a concussion and then did nothing. If that kid gets another concussion and then develops brain damage that leads to suicide you are in deep financial ****
 

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Dan Freeney their all american OG - missed almost the entire season with a concussion

there was some talk of him coming back in November - wonder if related
 

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Big mistake, I agree. Which is why the firing must have to do with what is being hinted at. Player treatment issues. I bet Kansas wishes they had not needed to fire their most successful coach in ages (Mangino), but their hand was forced. Probably similar here too. Imagine your tort liability as a University if it came out that you knew about your coach pressuring guys to play with a concussion and then did nothing. If that kid gets another concussion and then develops brain damage that leads to suicide you are in deep financial ****


Must be pretty savor for IU to let him go.
 

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Officially a resignation over philosophical differences. No violations occurred.

So by saying that does the school relieve him of any liability for these concussed players that he rushes back to play?

Sounds like he hired a Judas for a DC if you read between the lines.
 
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Officially a resignation over philosophical differences. No violations occurred.

So by saying that does the school relieve him of any liability for these concussed players that he rushes back to play?

Sounds like he hired a Judas for a DC if you read between the lines.
Sounds as if the rumors of player abuse are false.

Seems strange then to fire your coach over philosophical differences. So your speculation of royal court intrigue and backstabbing holds water. This whole thing is weird as hell, so anything is possible
 

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Go back the last 4 seasons and watch Indiana's defense compare to this year....HUGE difference. Allen is/was a top up & coming DC, not sure he is ready to be a HC though.
 
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Officially a resignation over philosophical differences. No violations occurred.

So by saying that does the school relieve him of any liability for these concussed players that he rushes back to play?

Sounds like he hired a Judas for a DC if you read between the lines.
Something stinks. Something went down. He just got a 6 year extension, and now he resigns and only takes 500 k as severance instead of being fired and making millions like Bo. Not buying it.
 
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Perhaps they had something scandalous on him (you know, Carl Pelini type stuff) and they gave him a choice: resign and take a pittance for severance pay, whereupon we will keep the scandal silent, or resist and be fired with everything made public

"Philosophical differences"? ********
 

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2007-2015, the Hoosiers scoring defense ranked anywhere from 90-112. In 2016, they are #58.

2009-2015, in conference their scoring defense gave up between 32-38 points per game every year. In 2016, it's 27.3 in conference. It's also the first time they weren't the bottom two scoring defense in conference.
 
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I didn't stutter

I guess you think Indiana's defense was "special".

I mean "special" as in the defense was soooo good this guy deserves to be head coach
He started turning around a horrid defense, with less than stellar athletes. I will give him a little credit for that at least.
 

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I didn't stutter

I guess you think Indiana's defense was "special".

I mean "special" as in the defense was soooo good this guy deserves to be head coach

Agree. Indiana's defense was better much in the same way as tommy Armstrong was better. A more accurate depiction would be both were a little less terrible than they were the year before.
 
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2007-2015, the Hoosiers scoring defense ranked anywhere from 90-112. In 2016, they are #58.

2009-2015, in conference their scoring defense gave up between 32-38 points per game every year. In 2016, it's 27.3 in conference. It's also the first time they weren't the bottom two scoring defense in conference.
I said "his defense was nothing special". So you seem to disagree with that. So I guess you think his defense was "special", as in exemplary.
He is a good coach and his defense improved. No doubt about it. But fire your coach who also seemed to be improving Indiana's program in order to hire this guy??? I don't get it
 
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He started turning around a horrid defense, with less than stellar athletes. I will give him a little credit for that at least.
Yes I do give him credit for that. I think he is a good coach. But as I said above, so good that you would fire your head coach for this guy? That is my question.
 

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I said "his defense was nothing special". So you seem to disagree with that. So I guess you think his defense was "special", as in exemplary.

I couldn't care less what you stated, all I did was post the defensive stats of Indiana the last several years. Including this year, his first as defensive coordinator.

For one to disagree with something, they'd first need to offer an opinion.
 
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Yes I do give him credit for that. I think he is a good coach. But as I said above, so good that you would fire your head coach for this guy? That is my question.
Meh. I really don't care. It is pretty transparent that they had the goods on him to make it bad. Nobody throws that kind of buyout money away.