Insight on our baseball team from a Rebel girl.

[howudurnn]

So maybe there's a difference between a coach who is passionate and cussesa lot& a coach who is passionate, cusses a lot, degrades his players, and is a prick.
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</div><div>Not saying Cohen is more on one side or the other. But I'm sure there are plenty of cussing coaches in high school sports all over the state. But their players still respect them and love to play for him.</div>

The latter is more the norm for CoachCohen. I wassomewhat(I lived in theMcArthur)close to the baseball team when the "prick" was playing and can tell you that mostof the players did not hang out with the "prick". He was a goodright fielder and had a sweet swing but the guy was a compleat *******. Pete Young was an ******* but everyone loved the guy. He is an example of the "passionate guy" that got wasted the nightbefore a gamebut played his *** off.
Ihope Cohen does well but his ego is rearing it's ugly head again and I had enough of it the first time. Polk, weather you agree with or not knows his players better thananyone and hetried to tell us that Cohen would not fit in and after two years andit's begining to look like the manwas right. Ihave been a MSU baseballfan sinceI saw Bruce Castoria launch one too the track field back in the day. Withthe way things are playing out if the"prick" does not claim down and start coaching instead of acting like an *** he will not be around much longer.

Having saidall this if he makes it to the OMAHA nextyear I will be the first one to kiss the "pricks" ***!

 

[Buford T. Justice]

Of course, I am not talking about quitting the team or transferring. I am talking about quitting on your effort. I am talking about giving less than your best effortbecause of a coach's words. Nothing in that passage you quoted says that Bird gave anything other than his best effort on the court.

I have no problem if a player transfers after the season because they don't like Cohen. Good riddance. I do have a problem with them quitting with their effort, just going through the motions on the field.

 

[olemissbydamn]

If you watch our team and you watch Cohen and the assistants, they are always trying to get the players to get into the game, and they are usually trying to keep the dugout positive, but they don't respond. They just sit there like bumps on a log.

Most dugouts especially in college- the players are usually into the game and excited. Ours just sits there.

I think part of the problem is probably not that the players aren't getting any positive reinforcement, it's that they don't want to accept it- probably because they are still hung up on the negative reinforcement.

That's just it though...you can't be an extremedickhead to players in private (and in the media) andthen expect them to respond to you in the dugout because you are now giving positive reinforcement while people are watching. It's
disingenuous and insulting to pretend like a goodguy when the game is on.

If you are going to blame the players, you have to take some of the credit for their failures as coach or they lose trust.

The above postsounds like they havegiven up on him.That's on him as much as them.

 

[PBRME]

I would love to shag a few fly balls, have the coach cuss me for not hustling, and then go bang a hot young co-ed afterwards. That sounds like a vacation to me.

I hope they grow a set before going out into the real world because they haven't seen **** yet. That is unless their only ambition in life is to be a fry cook or Wal-Mart greeter.</p>

 

[Todd4State]

you don't lower your standards as a coach just because your players that someone else brought in can't take criticism.

Also, Cohen has often times said that "it's my fault" when something doesn't go right. He hasn't always done that, but it's not like he doesn't ever take the blame either.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

If you watch our team and you watch Cohen and the assistants, they are always trying to get the players to get into the game, and they are usually trying to keep the dugout positive, but they don't respond. They just sit there like bumps on a log.

Most dugouts especially in college- the players are usually into the game and excited. Ours just sits there.

I think part of the problem is probably not that the players aren't getting any positive reinforcement, it's that they don't want to accept it- probably because they are still hung up on the negative reinforcement.

After reading this I have to ask, is there any sign at all that any of the players are trying to take a leadership role on this team? I'm not over there where I can see the games but it sounds like a leaderless team.

 

[Todd4State]

in the clubhouse, I have no idea.

Conner Powers can certainly lead by example, but I don't know how he is as far as being a vocal leader or whatever.

 

[Coach34]

and obviously this older bunch Polk recruited just doesnt have a strong, winner's type of mentality. When the going gets tough, they fold. And you can't expect the younger guys to take the leadership roles.

Positive reinforcement?? I'm willing to bet you the coaching staff gives positive reinforcement when positive things happen- whether its practice or a game. But if you're ******, and you dont do very many positive things, you arent going to much positive reinforcement.

As a coach, you have to be yourself and do what you think is necessary to get the best out of your players. Sometimes, there are just players you can't reach and it sux. It frustrates you beyond end. But it happens. This is one of those groups for Cohen.

I had one my former players find me on facebook the other day. We talked awhile and he thanked me for an incident between us when he was a Sophomore. We were in the weightroom, it was one of those Fridays late in the schoolyear when the kids don't want to do ****- but we had to anyway. He picked the worst time to smart off to me and kicked him right in his ***. He stormed out of the weightroom, embarassed, and everybody else shut their mouth and got to work.
He and I met that afternoon and I explained to him that he had spent enough time screwing off and not taking things seriously. It was time for him to start working hard and work to become the linebacker I felt he could be. I also apologized for kicking him, but thats how strongly I felt I needed to get my point across.
He went on the start his Jr and Senior years, becoming our defensive captain his Sr year. He is now about to graduate from college and is going to become- you guessed it- a coach. He even wants to come visit with me and talk football after graduation. I told him I'd love to. It's great when you make a difference, and it just sux when you can't no matter what you try.

Group A are sitting there thinking- "if he had done that to me we would have been fighting"
Group B are thinking- "I would have quit if he had done that to me"
Group C are thinking- "my parents would have had him fired if he had done that to me"
Group D are thinking- "you know, I hate to admit it, but sometimes thats what it takes"

If you are in Groups B or C then you are exactly what Cohen is dealing with right now. They have no fight in them. They are looking for their parents to help them, because they cant handle and own up to their own failures. They think the problem is Cohen, but in reality- its them. They have the AB's, they are toeing the mound, they have to make the plays in the field- and they just arent good enough to do it like they are supposed to.

A hitting coach can help you with preparation and drills, but he can't hit for you.
A pitching coach can help you with delivery and balance, and even developing a pitch- but he can't throw it for you.

Flame away

 

[KurtRambis4]

been real big into Crooms then.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Kid to kick.

 

[maroonmania]

so Croom was a colossal failure, no doubt about it. But winning and mentoring your players in no way have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[JohnDawg]

this isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy, orange slices, and a blue Mondo Punch. Cohen is here to win first and play pattycake later.

 

[Bukowski.sixpack]

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